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Posted
1 hour ago, Drew said:

The “getting the ball out on time and reading the field” has gotten better with experience.  
 

the accuracy issues that he had until lay last week were not due to that.  Maybe it’s simply confidence. But he’s much more accurate now than Before and it had little to do with the run game and OL IMO.

and yes. He has shown the improvement needed and was a key reason they’ve won the last 2 weeks. I hope he does the same vs Georgia. 

It absolutely has to do with experience. When the game is rushed for you you feel like you are continually behind and you start rushing to catch up and your mechanics start breaking down.  Its entirely experience. 

 

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Yeah I’m just gonna disagree there. He’s still off on some throws.  He was missing guys way too much. And that doesn’t fix just Becuase the play calling changed  

either way I’m glad he seems to have figured it out.  That’s the bottom line. 

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48 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Evidently that hit knocked all the bullshit milwee and Sark have taught him out of his head.

The one he got in the semifinals last year scrambled something and the MSST one unscrambled it 

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

The one he got in the semifinals last year scrambled something and the MSST one unscrambled it 

So if he gets another concussion we wait until that heals then bop him again?

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1 hour ago, Drew said:

Yeah I’m just gonna disagree there. He’s still off on some throws.  He was missing guys way too much. And that doesn’t fix just Becuase the play calling changed  

either way I’m glad he seems to have figured it out.  That’s the bottom line. 

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5 hours ago, TexasRenegade said:

If we didn't get screwed on the touchdown or on the bs false start his play calling would've been fine. Or you know the holding call the commentators couldn't find.

Refs affecting that -3.5 line 

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I do think we would be faster along in Arch’s development had we employed the same type of offseason practices we had the previous two years. 140 scripted plays going against our defense with contact. You would have better been able to identify offense line weaknesses as well as to identify where Arch is most comfortable. Instead we figured out a spread offense and rollouts and bootlegs cause this dude to excel in the 4th quarter last week. We moved Hutson back to LG and Robertson under C for Vandy. It’s spilled milk, I’m nitpicking we won and I should take the win. I am but I can be frustrated that we had to lose to Florida after a bye to figure some shit out and it still wasn’t figured out by Kentucky. And we nearly lost by virtue of ref fuckery and Pavia being Pavia and PK doing 2023 OU prevent D and Sark turtling on Offense. That onside kick nearly gave everyone a heart attack and it blissfully rolled out of bounds. Sark said the Vandy comeback will give him something to “chew our team’s asses about” this week. But the coaching on both sides of the ball and blatant ref cheating made 34-10 into 34 -31. 
 

I enjoy the win. Proud of the team. Proud of Arch. Proud of a great first half by the coaches. But sark’s inability to look at his own errors pisses me off. I love the guy but as a HC he won’t win a MNC until he can look in a mirror and go “yeah NFL offseason practices weren’t a good idea.” Pride. 
 

celebrate the win. Hope we can make a badass stand against Georgia and rip their hearts and cheating asses out soon. 

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On 10/28/2025 at 9:29 AM, TwiceHorn said:

 

• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.

SEC refs are different, but certainly not better than Rig 12. They missed big calls at crucial times yesterday which let Vandy back in the game. Yes, our “DBU” (actaully dbu) idiots didn't do their jobs either. But we should be 1st and goal from the 2 yd  line after the egregious hold/PI in end zone on Mosley. It was clearly PI or holding most of the way down after Mosley blew by him. Easy call. Throw the flag well before the contested catch. Pick it up after discussion or review they knew would happen.

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SEC refs are different, but certainly not better than Rig 12. They missed big calls at crucial times yesterday which let Vandy back in the game. Yes, our “DBU” (actaully dbu) idiots didn't do their jobs either. But we should be 1st and goal from the 2 yd  line after the egregious hold/PI in end zone on Mosley. It was clearly PI or holding most of the way down after Mosley blew by him. Easy call. Throw the flag well before the contested catch. Pick it up after discussion or review they knew would happen.

Big 12 was consistently worse, but yesterday’s SEC crew was one of the worst.
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32 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Sark turtling on Offense

The only playcall I didn’t like was running on 3rd and 6 for no gain before the ref fuckery false start on 4th down. Should have been 4th & 1. And he went for the win with the shot to EM that the ref refused to throw the flag. 

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41 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I do think we would be faster along in Arch’s development had we employed the same type of offseason practices we had the previous two years. 140 scripted plays going against our defense with contact. You would have better been able to identify offense line weaknesses as well as to identify where Arch is most comfortable. Instead we figured out a spread offense and rollouts and bootlegs cause this dude to excel in the 4th quarter last week. We moved Hutson back to LG and Robertson under C for Vandy. It’s spilled milk, I’m nitpicking we won and I should take the win. I am but I can be frustrated that we had to lose to Florida after a bye to figure some shit out and it still wasn’t figured out by Kentucky. And we nearly lost by virtue of ref fuckery and Pavia being Pavia and PK doing 2023 OU prevent D and Sark turtling on Offense. That onside kick nearly gave everyone a heart attack and it blissfully rolled out of bounds. Sark said the Vandy comeback will give him something to “chew our team’s asses about” this week. But the coaching on both sides of the ball and blatant ref cheating made 34-10 into 34 -31. 
 

I enjoy the win. Proud of the team. Proud of Arch. Proud of a great first half by the coaches. But sark’s inability to look at his own errors pisses me off. I love the guy but as a HC he won’t win a MNC until he can look in a mirror and go “yeah NFL offseason practices weren’t a good idea.” Pride. 
 

celebrate the win. Hope we can make a badass stand against Georgia and rip their hearts and cheating asses out soon. 


I agree with the sentiment in general, but context is important. Missing three safeties against a team throwing deep in desperation mode is never going to look pretty. 
 

I just don’t agree that throwing deep to Mosley (who drew the penalty which was the second best outcome outside of a TD) was turtling.  Running Wisner up the gut twice would have been turtling. They correctly call a penalty that was OSU 2015 level of obvious and final is 37- 16 at worst. 

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9 hours ago, TexasRenegade said:

It absolutely has to do with experience. When the game is rushed for you you feel like you are continually behind and you start rushing to catch up and your mechanics start breaking down.  Its entirely experience. 

 

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10 hours ago, Drew said:

Yeah I’m just gonna disagree there. He’s still off on some throws.  He was missing guys way too much. And that doesn’t fix just Becuase the play calling changed  

either way I’m glad he seems to have figured it out.  That’s the bottom line. 

Which of 8 incompletions out of 33 throws were “off throws” and bad “misses”?

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10 hours ago, TexasRenegade said:

It absolutely has to do with experience. When the game is rushed for you you feel like you are continually behind and you start rushing to catch up and your mechanics start breaking down.  Its entirely experience. 

 

Lots of pro QBs have talked about this. I think it was Bradshaw who said you get to the point where all you see is the defenders. You just know where your targets are. Romo talked about when he got to the point where he could anticipate where the defenders would be  pre snap almost regardless of alignment. Unfortunately that was right when he had the back injury / surgeries and then the fracture 

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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

What the fuck do you people think turtling means?

Not counting the final kneel down drive, Texas had 4 second half drives. 2 scored points and 1 had no points due to a horrendous no-call 

The “prevent” defense was the turtling I saw. That was horrific. 

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1 hour ago, Eskimohorn said:


Big 12 was consistently worse, but yesterday’s SEC crew was one of the worst.

I agree .  In the Rig 12 we knew if a crew led by Mar, Alvarez, and muscle head (Scott is his first name I think?) we were going to be on the short end of something.   Plus the fact they want to review everything and it takes the replay booth forever to review which in turn makes a game that starts at lunch time end at dinner time , I don’t miss the Rig 12 for this too.  

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2 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

The “prevent” defense was the turtling I saw. That was horrific. 

THe busted coverage immediately after the missed FG was the back breaker. If we make them drive 67 yards and take 3-4 min off the clock, this is a respectable win because they don’t have the time after 

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20 minutes ago, JBJ said:

No one has mentioned the screen game worked early and often.  Probably half those passing yards are screens.

Yes, and this is where Sark deserves credit.  He wants to throw deep.  Last year, he forced that several times a game with a QB who couldn't throw it deep.  Not bagging on Quinn, but that was his only weakness, and Sark stubbornly refused to game plan around it.

Now, with Arch, things seem to snowball for him one way or the other.  So the obvious answer is to give him a bunch of easy throws that can't get picked to get him going.  We did that almost exclusively in the first half, then we let him throw downfield a bit in the second half.  And it worked beautifully.

Now, will Sark make the next adjustment and go to quick slants and draw plays when Georgia overloads the sideline to stop the WR screens?

Arch has plenty of ability even with the misfires and rookie processing speed, and both of those will improve.  He just needs to be used correctly in the meantime.  Sark seems to have figured that out and credit to him for that.

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THe busted coverage immediately after the missed FG was the back breaker. If we make them drive 67 yards and take 3-4 min off the clock, this is a respectable win because they don’t have the time after 

And this is where if MT is in the game, makes that call for the secondary! Coach on the field, indeed.
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1 hour ago, ITHorn said:


I agree with the sentiment in general, but context is important. Missing three safeties against a team throwing deep in desperation mode is never going to look pretty. 
 

I just don’t agree that throwing deep to Mosley (who drew the penalty which was the second best outcome outside of a TD) was turtling.  Running Wisner up the gut twice would have been turtling. They correctly call a penalty that was OSU 2015 level of obvious and final is 37- 16 at worst. 

Bobby has been running with the “top 3 safeties”, but let’s be honest about this. Filsaime is in the top 3, but he had a really rough game. The drop from Taaffe and McDonald to the next safety is a huge chasm. Derek Williams is a bit perplexing. I know injury was a legit, but he looks kind of lost out there. Very disappointing 

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What's funny is on the first sideline pass to Wingo, duplicating last week, Arch actually led him and he had to take a step forward to catch it.  I think Wingo was surprised.

I have to confess that I thought it was the usual Arch just a little off with his passes, this time the error being a "positive" one.  But no, Arch and the WR were more consistently "in rhythm" all game.

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16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

THe busted coverage immediately after the missed FG was the back breaker. If we make them drive 67 yards and take 3-4 min off the clock, this is a respectable win because they don’t have the time after 

100%.. Texas wins easily if the secondary plays respectable “prevent”. Though I believe the long TD was a busted cover 2 (my guess live). I really don’t love that call there.. 

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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

What's funny is on the first sideline pass to Wingo, duplicating last week, Arch actually led him and he had to take a step forward to catch it.  I think Wingo was surprised.

I have to confess that I thought it was the usual Arch just a little off with his passes, this time the error being a "positive" one.  But no, Arch and the WR were more consistently "in rhythm" all game.

When Wingo runs it off of orbit motion, Arch has to throw it out front in order to avoid a backwards pass.  Seen this several times, so I think they are just okay with how it is.

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I hated the soft zone turn around and park a receiver bullshit they weren't just taking away with press man. 

I know its playstation, but usually it doesnt play zone well. Too many defenders guarding grass and only one defender on deep balls. So my prevent is 3-deep, man underneath. I’d taken a 2 deep man underneath yesterday.
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28 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

100%.. Texas wins easily if the secondary plays respectable “prevent”. Though I believe the long TD was a busted cover 2 (my guess live). I really don’t love that call there.. 

It was a busted coverage by Guilbeau. Babers was a little perplexed by Guilbeau’s coverage on that play saying if no one comes into your flat area then carry the 1 receiver. I don’t know why he thought there was automatic safety help over the top. 

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1 hour ago, JBJ said:

No one has mentioned the screen game worked early and often.  Probably half those passing yards are screens.

I believe both you and I thought the biggest advantage on offense was our skill players vs their DBs. That proved to be the case. Vandy secondary really struggled to make tackles (apparently that was contagious, as Texas secondary forgot how to tackle also). It was a good game plan. 

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4 minutes ago, Levi said:

It was a busted coverage by Guilbeau. Babers was a little perplexed by Guilbeau’s coverage on that play saying if no one comes into your flat area then carry the 1 receiver. I don’t know why he thought there was automatic safety help over the top. 

Yeah just shit by Guilbeau. It looked like they were playing quarters deep and Guilbeau just stopped for some reason. There was no receiver underneath to even throw him off or pull him. 

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5 minutes ago, Levi said:

It was a busted coverage by Guilbeau. Babers was a little perplexed by Guilbeau’s coverage on that play saying if no one comes into your flat area then carry the 1 receiver. I don’t know why he thought there was automatic safety help over the top. 

I think late in games like that the DBs start playing a little selfish, wanting to jump routes and make wow plays. Guilbeau is just dumb enough a player to do that. We saw 4 also have a terrible game trying to do that earlier this season. 

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20 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I believe both you and I thought the biggest advantage on offense was our skill players vs their DBs. That proved to be the case. Vandy secondary really struggled to make tackles (apparently that was contagious, as Texas secondary forgot how to tackle also). It was a good game plan. 

It was noted up thread but I really think this was the best game this year not just for Arch but for the WRs as well. In addition to Sark getting a clue and calling a game that aligned to the strengths of the players I think the WRs took a big step forward in effort and give a shit. Mosley, imo, is helping to drive that initiative with a lead by example directive. 

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

I hated the soft zone turn around and park a receiver bullshit they weren't just taking away with press man. 

The top 3 safeties on the team were all out injured in the 4th quarter. Then Muhammad left the game in the 4th. Can't go press man on the corners or in the slot on the TE when you're having to throw Filsame and Jonah Williams back there. On top of having Gilbeau and Phillips at corner. 

They were fucked in the secondary. Personnel wise there was nothing PK could do to win any given snap except hope Simmons, Hill, or Burke could win fast enough to blow up the play. 

Terrible injury luck in the secondary that 2nd half, and we'd better hope all of them are back and able to play well against Georgia. 

Posted (edited)

I get the frustration of Vandy getting back into this game, but side with others on injuries plus refs being the cause rather than the defensive scheme. 

And yes... we all need to sacrifice a chicken to Jobu for the speedy recovery of our DBs these next 2 weeks.

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