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1 minute ago, Zonahorn said:

Unprecedented, what are you talking about?

There are a lot of congress critters that don't understand math, yes.

Joe Biden sounded like shit during a debate while he had a cold, there is zero evidence of dementia or Alzheimers.  So yes, the current narrative about Biden has been fabricated.

The entire post-debate frenzy has been disgusting cowardice on the media and elected Democrats participating.

This is Blue MAGA stuff right here. Are you going to believe your lyin’ eyes?

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26 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Do I trust the National Opinion Research Center and other high quality polling organizations to approximate public sentiment more accurately than vibes? Absolutely. And in this situation their polling tends to mirror the vibes, so where’s the discrepancy?

The second sentence makes it very clear the first is confirmation bias. As for the polling, if believe a generational and racial realignment is going to occur this election, I have some Arizona oceanfront property to sell you.

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Democrats could have won me over with a detailed and comprehensive strategy AND a homerun candidate this late, they have neither only the love to smell their own farts.

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28 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

This is Blue MAGA stuff right here. Are you going to believe your lyin’ eyes?

I'm not going to throw an election over a shitty debate. 

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58 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

And we know nothing about it?  It was part of the teleprompter, sir.  

Or this like a "Happy Fun Ball" situation?  

"The projectile components of Happy Fun Ball include an unknown glowing substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space." 

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Just now, linux said:

Democrats could have won me over with a detailed and comprehensive strategy AND a homerun candidate this late, they have neither only the love to smell their own farts.

So they could have won you over with an actual coup, instead of messily reacting to a Code Red event that changed the narrative and chances of winning this race. 

 

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37 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Ok now I’m absolutely sure Helobious is a bot account. The number of silent Trump voters in 2016 and 2020 was huge. No one could possibly be as wrong as this poster all the time. It’s a bit. 

So he had a “silent majority” and still lost the popular vote both times?

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Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

So they could have won you over with an actual coup, instead of messily reacting to a Code Red event that changed the narrative and chances of winning this race. 

 

YES, WIN AT ALL COSTS! Cry about the phyrric victory later, you have absolutely no idea how they are not leaving power if they win, I am talking a combination of fake elections, third terms, cheating civil servants (after proj 2025 is done with them), VP not certifying the election, and lastly the SCOTUS rubber stamping it all, and that is ignoring the crimes against humanity that will be commited like camps for undocumented workers.

I honestly don't care who wins as long as it is not them and I will be volunteering my time to stop them. I just want competence to win.

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31 minutes ago, linux said:

YES, WIN AT ALL COSTS! Cry about the phyrric victory later, you have absolutely no idea how they are not leaving power if they win, I am talking a combination of fake elections, third terms, cheating civil servants (after proj 2025 is done with them), VP not certifying the election, and lastly the SCOTUS rubber stamping it all, and that is ignoring the crimes against humanity that will be commited like camps for undocumented workers.

I honestly don't care who wins as long as it is not them and I will be volunteering my time to stop them. I just want competence to win.

I would vote for a moldy sandwich over Trump and MAGA

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I still see the path to Biden victory he got the most votes out every candidate ever, the clown got second place and they will both come down hard in terms of votes, but all it takes all it fucking takes is to convince someone that voted for Biden to do so again. That is infinitely easier than changing someone's mind (generally only 1 in 100 do, never talk to MAGA).

That is the path to victory, if Biden is too sick then so be it, but if he is a stubborn old man I am riding that old horse till the bitter fucking end. 

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1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

100%.

It's not a coup.

Democrats calling for Biden to step aside after realizing that he isn't what's best for this country is what separates them from Republicans.

 

Doing it after the primaries makes it a coup, I honestly don't see how people are so blind to this, there was a process to do this, and you want to know the absolute most pathetic thing of it all? if we ran a snap primary tomorrow over the phone and all dems participated? Joe fucking Biden would still win if 62% want him to step down then 38% is his vote count and that is enough to beat the entire damn field of democrats.

What absolute madness I would feel less worried if it was 99% that wanted him to step down, all we have is a damn democrat civil war in the wings.

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1 minute ago, linux said:

Doing it after the primaries makes it a coup, I honestly don't see how people are so blind to this, there was a process to do this, and you want to know the absolute most pathetic thing of it all? if we ran a snap primary tomorrow over the phone and all dems participated? Joe fucking Biden would still win if 62% want him to step down then 38% is his vote count and that is enough to beat the entire damn field of democrats.

What absolute madness I would feel less worried if it was 99% that wanted him to step down, all we have is a damn democrat civil war in the wings.

If SOTU Biden came bursting through the doors I'd be all on board. We haven't even gotten 50% of SOTU Biden.

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6 minutes ago, linux said:

Doing it after the primaries makes it a coup, I honestly don't see how people are so blind to this, 

The big issue that changed the momentum and greatly decreased the chances of winning happened AFTER the primary.

What is going on here? People are REACTING to an event, not making one up out of thin air. You are 100% never going to convince someone that what happened with Biden didn't happen. 

 

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

If SOTU Biden came bursting through the doors I'd be all on board. We haven't even gotten 50% of SOTU Biden.

I honestly never bothered to watch it, I don't buy the accelerated decline, the decline is real but has been gradual over the years. The idea that he can not last 4 months is not something I seriously entertain (but it will up to him to decide)

I don't care about anything after that, running the country. Team Biden can run it just as well as anyone, except for the softness of course.

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1 minute ago, linux said:

I honestly never bothered to watch it, I don't buy the accelerated decline, the decline is real but has been gradual over the years. The idea that he can not last 4 months is not something I seriously entertain (but it will up to him to decide)

I don't care about anything after that, running the country. Team Biden can run it just as well as anyone, except for the softness of course.

go watch it. 

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4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

The big issue that changed the momentum and greatly decreased the chances of winning happened AFTER the primary.

What is going on here? People are REACTING to an event, not making one up out of thin air. You are 100% never going to convince someone that what happened with Biden didn't happen. 

 

Joe Biden is old as fuck that was known in 2020, if you had no plan to execute a proper coup intra party coup then why should I follow you?

How do you people not know that this is all a performative act to get big money donations? That is what it looks like to me a performative act at the expense of damaging the campaign.

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I honestly never bothered to watch it, I don't buy the accelerated decline, the decline is real but has been gradual over the years. The idea that he can not last 4 months is not something I seriously entertain (but it will up to him to decide)
I don't care about anything after that, running the country. Team Biden can run it just as well as anyone, except for the softness of course.

This is the disconnect. You may not care if he lasts past November but a hell of a lot of people do. I hate Trump as much as anyone on this planet, but “Will this guy survive four more years?” is absolutely a valid question for a voter to ask themselves and frankly it uncomfortably evens the playing field between the two candidates among normies who don’t follow politics on the regular.
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1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:


This is the disconnect. You may not care if he lasts past November but a hell of a lot of people do. I hate Trump as much as anyone on this planet, but “Will this guy survive four more years?” is absolutely a valid question for a voter to ask themselves and frankly it uncomfortably evens the playing field between the two candidates among normies who don’t follow politics on the regular.

I do care about their vote, believe me, but only because it is the win condition, Team Biden can run the country just fucking fine, hell they could do it trotting his comatose corpse for all I care, the problem is compounded by people saying "Biden is too old"... just get the coup done already, all this talk just makes things harder.

Convincing the 81 million voters to go for Biden again should be the easiest slam dunk in history plus his disgraced coupster is running again and can only get 74 million. The clown has a HARD ceiling, he knows it that is why he is fake born again unity candidate... Instead we got the party that loves to smell its own farts and we have to make things infinitely more difficult.

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I think the Biden camp + inner circle shielding him these many months after his decision to run again was predicated on the belief that Trump was (a) unelectable and (b) wouldn’t be on the ballot/be in jail so they didn’t need to do much. Especially if he is declining. Shielded him really the last ten months and only got him out there for heavily scripted teleprompter style shit. And this works.
 

And they would Just watch Trump be removed from the ballot. Repubs would fracture and won’t be able to put up or vote for anyone that could beat Biden. They would lose and lose huge. 
 

then if after winning the election in a few months or whatever he steps down if his cognitive shit really is that bad and Kamala is new President.
i  think that’s what they thought. 

then for whatever inexplicable reason with his poll numbers lagging behind Trump’s these same people said, “Hey let’s have a fucking historically early debate and Biden with enough prep will wipe the floor with that convicted felon and we will get a boost in the polls and we won’t have to debate that SOB again.”

And no need to rehash what happened after Biden absolutely kicked his own ass in that debate.  Trump’s many lies were not the story. The story was “holy shit what’s wrong with Biden.”
 

Thats where we are and the party is now fractured on how to move forward. Where will it be after the convention? No one fucking knows.  All I know is that it would be the absolute worst idea to pass over Kamala in favor of an open convention deal if Biden steps down and in the meantime the Dems are doing more damage to Biden than Republicans could ever do or even need to do. The fracture boomeranged on them. It hit the Democrats. And now they want something that should have taken place the moment Biden said he would run again. A real primary. Just thoughts but I think they didn’t need to do much because Trump wouldn’t be on the ballot and Repubs would fracture and they win. Jmo. 

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

The Biden tweets being completely ignored in this thread is classic and hilarious. 

Well, it all seems pretty fucking hollow at this point, doesn't it?  One day Joe tells us the end is nigh if Republicans are elected.  The next he tells us to simmer, down, they just have a different vision.  The day after he struggles to finish a sentence.  If we're like, "Hey, uh, why am I getting all these mixed messages and precisely what the fuck is up with this leader I am supposed to be rallying behind?" we're told to shut the fuck up and fall in line.

Lost faith is hard to regain.  Once you see that the great Wizard of Oz is really just an old man behind a curtain, you can't unsee it.  Dems need to recognize this.  Their emperor has no clothes.  If they don't give voters a non-ridiculous option, the subset of those voters who don't have literal skin in the game are going to opt for self-preservation vs doomed Quixotic last stands.

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55 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Worth watching. 

 

Ha-ha! The Democratic Party is the one that wants to have student loans of working professionals paid for by taxes of blue collar workers, and the party that wants to increase tax deductions for wealthy people’s jumbo mortgages. 
 
It is amazing how things have flipped over 40 years. Reagan would never have had the balls to suggest these. 

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14 minutes ago, statsman said:

Ha-ha! The Democratic Party is the one that wants to have student loans of working professionals paid for by taxes of blue collar workers, and the party that wants to increase tax deductions for wealthy people’s jumbo mortgages. 
 
It is amazing how things have flipped over 40 years. Reagan would never have had the balls to suggest these. 

A lot of workshoppin’ going on in this post to make it look like it’s poor people paying for the rich.

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2 hours ago, linux said:

Its a coup, you could have run your candidates during primary season but refused to do so, this all smells like people wanted a backroom deal to pick the president. Where is my god damn primary for Biden Next? I thought so.

No it isn't. Removing a nominee is not deposing a leader; they are a political party and can run who they want. The voters will pick the President. Also, Biden can simply run the clock out on them if he holds on, unless there is such overwhelming support for removing him that they literally change their own rules to do so an install a new nominee by applicable deadlines. 

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

I think the Biden camp + inner circle shielding him these many months after his decision to run again was predicated on the belief that Trump was (a) unelectable and (b) wouldn’t be on the ballot/be in jail so they didn’t need to do much. Especially if he is declining. Shielded him really the last ten months and only got him out there for heavily scripted teleprompter style shit. And this works.
 

And they would Just watch Trump be removed from the ballot. Repubs would fracture and won’t be able to put up or vote for anyone that could beat Biden. They would lose and lose huge. 
 

then if after winning the election in a few months or whatever he steps down if his cognitive shit really is that bad and Kamala is new President.
i  think that’s what they thought. 

then for whatever inexplicable reason with his poll numbers lagging behind Trump’s these same people said, “Hey let’s have a fucking historically early debate and Biden with enough prep will wipe the floor with that convicted felon and we will get a boost in the polls and we won’t have to debate that SOB again.”

And no need to rehash what happened after Biden absolutely kicked his own ass in that debate.  Trump’s many lies were not the story. The story was “holy shit what’s wrong with Biden.”
 

Thats where we are and the party is now fractured on how to move forward. Where will it be after the convention? No one fucking knows.  All I know is that it would be the absolute worst idea to pass over Kamala in favor of an open convention deal if Biden steps down and in the meantime the Dems are doing more damage to Biden than Republicans could ever do or even need to do. The fracture boomeranged on them. It hit the Democrats. And now they want something that should have taken place the moment Biden said he would run again. A real primary. Just thoughts but I think they didn’t need to do much because Trump wouldn’t be on the ballot and Repubs would fracture and they win. Jmo. 

I genuinely do not think Biden is running if Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis or whoever is the GOP nominee. I think it's personal to him with Trump on the ballot.

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9 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

A lot of workshoppin’ going on in this post to make it look like it’s poor people paying for the rich.

Well, everyone knows the blue collar workforce does all the heavy lifting when it comes to the tax burden.

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30 minutes ago, statsman said:

Ha-ha! The Democratic Party is the one that wants to have student loans of working professionals paid for by taxes of blue collar workers, and the party that wants to increase tax deductions for wealthy people’s jumbo mortgages. 
 
It is amazing how things have flipped over 40 years. Reagan would never have had the balls to suggest these. 

So, what were you on when you came up with this post? 

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Good line from Bill Maher tonight: “(Trump’s) whole life has been a continuous series of ‘you’ve got to be fucking kidding me’s’ “

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25 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

A lot of workshoppin’ going on in this post to make it look like it’s poor people paying for the rich.

Wait. I was told poor people don't pay taxes.

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2 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

No one cares about a 7MM popular win.  It was skin of the teeth by the counting that matters. 

Again for the people in the back if the same 81 million voters that voted for Biden in 2020 did so again in 2024 he wins by a gigalandslide.

Please think about it for a second and then get back to me.

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52 minutes ago, linux said:

Again for the people in the back if the same 81 million voters that voted for Biden in 2020 did so again in 2024 he wins by a gigalandslide.

Please think about it for a second and then get back to me.

But they aren't. That's the problem.

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1 hour ago, linux said:

Again for the people in the back if the same 81 million voters that voted for Biden in 2020 did so again in 2024 he wins by a gigalandslide.

Please think about it for a second and then get back to me.


This one is showing up to do his duty 


 

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8 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Worth watching. 

 

I like Mayor Pete. He is extremely smart, Rhodes Scholar, military vet, and he’s been praised by Republicans for the work he’s done as Transportation Secretary. I would love for Trump to lose to a woman and a gay guy if he was picked for VP.

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