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22 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I know people are dumb but FFS.

Twitter didn’t censor anything. The fact that the Hunter story was all over Twitter and every other form of media - social and traditional - is proof of that.

They complied with a request to remove hacked nudes.

The idiots who care about Hunter’s shenanigans were never voting for his dad.

Elon Musk and Matt Tabibbi could tell me the sky is blue and I’d go outside and confirm.

Man, I used to think Taibbi was a serious journalist when he was writing about the mortgage crisis. More recently, he seems to be wholly beholden to Putin porn while passing the pipe between himself and Glen Greenwald. 

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I know people are dumb but FFS.

Twitter didn’t censor anything. The fact that the Hunter story was all over Twitter and every other form of media - social and traditional - is proof of that.

They complied with a request to remove hacked nudes.

The idiots who care about Hunter’s shenanigans were never voting for his dad.

Elon Musk and Matt Tabibbi could tell me the sky is blue and I’d go outside and confirm.

I think where I draw the line is that news outlets shouldn’t be silenced/suppressed/censored (whatever you want to cal it) on popular social media platforms purely for political reasons, period.

The biggest issue here to me isn’t remotely what Hunter had, did, lost, etc…, it’s that a media outlet like the New York Post was shut down for reasons that shouldn’t happen.
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2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


I think where I draw the line is that news outlets shouldn’t be silenced/suppressed/censored (whatever you want to cal it) on popular social media platforms for political reasons, period.

The biggest issue here to me isn’t remotely what Hunter had, did, lost, etc…, it’s that a media outlet like the New York Post was shut down for reasons that shouldn’t happen.

When one looks at the trove of unflattering articles the Post cranked out about Hunter Biden, characterizing it as shut down is a bit much.

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Calm down

He seems to have hit the mark.
When one looks at the trove of unflattering articles the Post cranked out about Hunter Biden, characterizing it as shut down is a bit much.

I would argue the opposite. If they were posting that much with no effect then why the sudden change?
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When one looks at the trove of unflattering articles the Post cranked out about Hunter Biden, characterizing it as shut down is a bit much.

And perhaps I misunderstood…the Post was suspended and unable to post anything on twitter for like 2-3 weeks after posting the laptop story. That’s what I meant by “shut down.”
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1 hour ago, Humble Beast said:

FAFO  Why am I such a bloomin' idiot?

Dude, I don't know.

 

9 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


I think where I draw the line is that news outlets shouldn’t be silenced/suppressed/censored (whatever you want to cal it) on popular social media platforms purely for political reasons, period.

The biggest issue here to me isn’t remotely what Hunter had, did, lost, etc…, it’s that a media outlet like the New York Post was shut down for reasons that shouldn’t happen.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? You don't even know which old nazi family owns the NY Post?

So moderated on twitter equals a NEWSPAPER being silenced? Really? One arm of the murdoch propaganda machine can't tweet. Where's my fucking violin?

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2 hours ago, Humble Beast said:

Twitter suppressed a news story about their preferred Presidential candidate just before the election. They went so far as to lock out the Press Secretary of POTUS because she tweeted it out. They didn’t want a fully informed electorate. It’s being called a nothingburger even though this is the exact reason people on this thread are so upset about Elon buying Twitter. They believed the proper people had this power. Now they don’t.  
 

The real concerns here have nothing to do with “hate speech”. They want Twitter to die and a viable alternative to pop up so they can regain this power that is rightfully theirs. It’s really simple.  
 

They claim there’s more to follow. We’ll see. 

Holy shit 

Cracking Up Lol GIF by HULU

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I have no idea where the CR lines are on this or not so I’ll stop at the risk of making an opinion other than “media outlets as a rule shouldn’t be suspended like what the Post endured” …but ultimately I find it hilarious people are shitting on Musk for sharing all this new information. I get that people hate him and want to see him fail. Richest man in the world doesn’t mean he’s a visionary, that’s for sure.

The fact it hits such a nerve to some makes me think he’s doing something needed, however.

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WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? You don't even know which old nazi family owns the NY Post?
So moderated on twitter equals a NEWSPAPER being silenced? Really? One arm of the murdoch propaganda machine can't tweet. Where's my fucking violin?

What am I talking about?

New York Post had over a million followers on Twitter at the time, maybe even close to 2 million. Media companies routinely use Twitter and other social media platforms to share their content. I have no idea why you cap-spelled newspaper.

So yeah, as badly as you want to marginalize what their suspension means, as I said before to answer the original topic of “what’s the big deal here” it’s that a media company was silenced and unable to share on a platform…

The fact we are finding out more now seems appropriate so it doesn’t happen again.
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10 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

I have no idea where the CR lines are on this or not so I’ll stop at the risk of making an opinion other than “media outlets as a rule shouldn’t be suspended like what the Post endured” …but ultimately I find it hilarious people are shitting on Musk for sharing all this new information. I get that people hate him and want to see him fail. Richest man in the world doesn’t mean he’s a visionary, that’s for sure.

The fact it hits such a nerve to some makes me think he’s doing something needed, however.

How about this. Start with explaining a laptop of unknown provenance that a random self-labeled "computer repair guy" who suddenly disappears off the face of the earth, and which he then delivers to the right wing propaganda machine and not the FBI, despite a white supremacist president desperately trying to cling to power in any way he can holding sway over the FBI. Tell me how you think that laptop proves anything that anyone should give a fuck about, particularly when the info that's on it is in no way verifiable because the conspiracy nuts whose cocks you suck breached it. People are annoyed because anyone with common sense despises gaslighting but it seems like that's all you dipshits can do.

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3 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


What am I talking about?

New York Post had over a million followers on Twitter at the time, maybe even close to 2 million. Media companies routinely use Twitter and other social media platforms to share their content. I have no idea why you cap-spelled newspaper.

So yeah, as badly as you want to marginalize what their suspension means, as I said before to answer the original topic of “what’s the big deal here” it’s that a media company was silenced and unable to share on a platform…

The fact we are finding out more now seems appropriate so it doesn’t happen again.

I mean it's basic social media moderation policy, and it absolutely should happen again, and again, and again everytime there is harmful content which needs to be taken down.

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How about this. Start with explaining a laptop of unknown provenance that a random self-labeled "computer repair guy" who suddenly disappears off the face of the earth, and which he then delivers to the right wing propaganda machine and not the FBI, despite a white supremacist president desperately trying to cling to power in any way he can holding sway over the FBI. Tell me how you think that laptop proves anything that anyone should give a fuck about, particularly when the info that's own it is in no way verifiable because the conspiracy nuts whose cocks you suck breached it. People are annoyed because anyone with common sense despises gaslighting but it seems like that's all you dipshits can do.

Dude, I’m not trying to gaslight or do any of that shit.

Isn’t what you described exactly why we have “journalistic standards?” And if a media outlet presents information or an article that they say passes their muster (addressing every single issue you mentioned), we give them the initial benefit of the doubt no matter what?

Whatever the Post had done to date…99.99% of their content was deemed acceptable. Then suddenly there’s no more benefit of the doubt?
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I mean it's basic social media moderation policy, and it absolutely should happen again, and again, and again everytime there is harmful content which needs to be taken down.

“Harmful content.”

Are our elected officials deciding exactly what that is so that we know when and when not to apply it?

Or, are we being subjective in its use?

I know you know the answer and that’s my point. This is a super complicated thing, IMO.
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Just now, McCroskey said:

Whatever the Post had done to date…99.99% of their content was deemed acceptable. Then suddenly there’s no more benefit of the doubt?

They had been moderated before. Anyone on twitter was aware there was a risk of being moderated. Why cry about it over some total hoax of a story that proves absolutely nothing, and which was obviously a misinformation campaign and an extension of the involvement by Russia in 2016. Why the fuck should anyone just accept that type of subterfuge in an election?

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They had been moderated before. Anyone on twitter was aware there was a risk of being moderated. Why cry about it over some total hoax of a story that proves absolutely nothing, and which was obviously a misinformation campaign and an extension of the involvement by Russia in 2016. Why the fuck should anyone just accept that type of subterfuge in an election?

Well I really, really don’t want this to be CR talk.

The NYP may have been moderated, maybe (I’m not sure of specific examples), but flat out suspended?? I don’t recall seeing where that happened prior to the laptop story. It’s why the whole thing was such a fuck up on Twitter’s part.

And the rest of what you said is 100% conjecture.
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9 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


Dude, I’m not trying to gaslight or do any of that shit.

Isn’t what you described exactly why we have “journalistic standards?” And if a media outlet presents information or an article that they say passes their muster (addressing every single issue you mentioned), we give them the initial benefit of the doubt no matter what?

Whatever the Post had done to date…99.99% of their content was deemed acceptable. Then suddenly there’s no more benefit of the doubt?

We went through an election where one side was able to launder russian propaganda into the mainstream press. Perhaps you somehow slept through it and perhaps you don't realize what they tried with the laptop is just an extension of the same behavior in 2016. The difference was in 2016 the media was happy to repackage and repeat certain lies. This time they were not.

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7 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

And the rest of what you said is 100% conjecture.

Except it's not at all conjecture. The story they tried to create was 100 percent tied to a certain russian oligarch. 100 percent. Why do you think the president's lawyer kept showing up in ukraine meeting with those people?

What you're doing now in raving about a totally random laptop is 100 percent conjecture. You can't even tell me why anyone should gaf about the laptop.

edit: okay i'm done talking about a laptop..go fuck yourself.

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That wasn't true when you started posting today and it still isn't.
There's a whole thread for Hunter Biden's laptop but here we are. Because DT is CR when some folks want it to be.

Oh get the fuck out of here you clown. This is a Musk thread where most think he’s a dipshit and lines are being crossed given what he’s doing now.
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Except it's not at all conjecture. The story they tried to create was 100 percent tied to a certain russian oligarch. 100 percent. Why do you think the president's lawyer kept showing up in ukraine meeting with those people?
What you're doing now in raving about a totally random laptop is 100 percent conjecture. You can't even tell me why anyone should gaf about the laptop.

As I said, my issue has NEVER been about the laptop. As I said, I don’t GAF about the laptop. For some reason you keep going back to that.
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20 hours ago, Bama Chick said:


These conversations are always enlightening to me.

Most men do not understand the “female gaze”. At all.

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hooboy yeah, Timothee makes me feel... funny 😏 

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i'm sorry what thread is this? 😊

 

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Oh really. Have a neg. You want to be political but not get called out.
Fuck off

“Not get called out.” You are a dumb fuck so neg me all you want.

Have a post on Elon Musk where 800 posts before me discuss the same shit, yet somehow I came here to be political…which obtw I never did.

It’s impossible to have a discussion on this without there potentially being some lines to cross which again is why I said I was mindful of it.
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2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


As I said, my issue has NEVER been about the laptop. As I said, I don’t GAF about the laptop. For some reason you keep going back to that.

What is your issue then? 
 

might want to read this first 
 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/15/twitter-acted-lawfully-in-restricting-nypost-hunter-biden-article-fec.html

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The Federal Election Commission has ruled Twitter did not violate federal elections law when it restricted the distribution of a New York Post article with unverified claims about President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, according to documents made public Wednesday. 

It also found Twitter did not violate the law by adding warning labels to former President Donald Trump’s tweets or allegedly “shadow banning” conservative viewpoints.

 

The agency found in a unanimous decision that Twitter had made valid decisions based on commercial reasons, according to a statement by the commission’s Vice Chair Allen Dickerson and Commissioner James “Trey” Trainor III, who are Republicans.

 

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1 minute ago, McCroskey said:


As I said, my issue has NEVER been about the laptop. As I said, I don’t GAF about the laptop. For some reason you keep going back to that.

It's not about the laptop. Musk is not a clown. It's about the 1st amendment. It's about how the government should regulate twitter's moderation policy. Hunter Biden is a threat to democracy. Saudi Arabia and Russia are our besties and NATO is our enemy. Okay cool.

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54 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


I think where I draw the line is that news outlets shouldn’t be silenced/suppressed/censored (whatever you want to cal it) on popular social media platforms purely for political reasons, period.

The biggest issue here to me isn’t remotely what Hunter had, did, lost, etc…, it’s that a media outlet like the New York Post was shut down for reasons that shouldn’t happen.

What are you reasons why the NY Post should not be “censored” for pushing unverifiable information that may or may not be supplied by a foreign government to influence an election? 

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Well I think that’s the point being discussed now, right?

I’m quite sure the FEC didn’t have the full scope of what happened at their disposal which is what makes this latest data release interesting.
First fucking reply is CR worthy. 

You are reaching. In the CR world that’s about 40 flavors milder than vanilla.
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33 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Are our elected officials deciding

I think you probably should go back and reread a bit of this story.

 

Edit: You know what, never mind. I'm just going to tell you zero elected officials decided anything, so if you want to keep looking like a chucklefuck at this point it's all on you.

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2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


Well I think that’s the point being discussed now, right?

I’m quite sure the FEC didn’t have the full scope of what happened at their disposal which is what makes this latest data release interesting.
You are reaching. In the CR world that’s about 40 flavors milder than vanilla.

It's CR in DT. It's not news. It's an oped. Just asking questions are ya?

Continue to fuck off. 

 

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6 minutes ago, McCroskey said:


Well I think that’s the point being discussed now, right?

I’m quite sure the FEC didn’t have the full scope of what happened at their disposal which is what makes this latest data release interesting.

What is interesting about it? Why do YOU believe the NY Post is unapproachable in their journalistic standards? In hindsight they clearly published a story that was at best unverifiable, and at worst, pure fiction. Now, if you are one of the people that believe the Hunter Biden laptop story, then that discussion was had and still can be had in the CR. 

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1 minute ago, McCroskey said:

 


That’s the point I made in my own post and why I said I knew you knew that.

You didn’t need to cut out the rest to try and make some other point…this is a discussion not a contest.

Fair enough, but that just circles back to this is basic content moderation. If some trash rag like the NYP puts obviously inappropriate material on a website it should absolutely be taken down and if they keep at it they should be barred. It's very simple. It's not a left or right thing.

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What is interesting about it? Why do YOU believe the NY Post is unapproachable in their journalistic standards? In hindsight they clearly published a story that was at best unverifiable, and at worst, pure fiction. Now, if you are one of the people that believe the Hunter Biden laptop story, then that discussion was had and still can be had in the CR. 

I never said the NYP was “unapproachable.” I think you mean irreproachable, but I never said that either.

In hindsight, wasn’t it later proven as verified? Didn’t CBS and other outlets recently start discussing the broader topic?

I am NOT one of those people you describe.

As I said from the beginning, my whole point around this is that I don’t think the NYP as a news outlet should have been suspended from Twitter for a story they posted. A different standard was applied for their story, and why that happened is what I think is important and how do we prevent it from happening again…again from a Musk-owned Twitter who may try to silence a story negative towards him or something he favors.
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