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Posted
8 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

I assume you’re joking. This pick had zero to do with the trade. It was a Dallas pick not a Laker pick, and he traded to be a contender now, not to get a lottery pick. 

c'mon, man

you *really* believe this is straight-up no fuckery at all?

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10 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

c'mon, man

you *really* believe this is straight-up no fuckery at all?

Only Mavs and Spurs think there was zero fuckery and we are all insane 

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Remember when Dan Gilbert was threatening the Miami Heat for tampering with LeBron, but then quietly backed down and got the #1 pick in The next draft? Total coincidence.

Also the Cavs getting the Ohio native LeBron in 03 seemed like just a happy coincidence that could make a small market team relevant, and create a nice narrative to write about for years to come. 

Then getting the #1 pick again when LeBron makes his triumphant return to Cleveland? Well, it's just the way the balls drop. 

It's a pattern, and people love to find patterns. Hard to not see it, maybe it's not rigged every year, but it sure feels like it is some of the time. 

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34 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

But then they approved a Paul trade to the Clippers all while fucking owning the franchise.

I remember the public backlash of Paul to Lakers being more universal across the country (especially with optics of NBA owning the Pelicans) than the recent Luka to Lakers deal. It sat there for a little while, then the NBA canceled it and turned around and sent him to the other LA franchise.

 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

c'mon, man

you *really* believe this is straight-up no fuckery at all?

So how do you figure it played out?

"Okay, Nico, if you trade Luka to the Lakers, we'll gift wrap you the #1 pick. But you have to avoid the playoffs outright. Luckily, AD will probably get hurt in his first game as a Mav. If that's not enough to plummet down the standings, maybe Kyrie will suffer a season ending injury to be safe. Then we'll let you beat a shit team like, say, Sacramento in the play-in to not make it seem too obvious. But have your team totally quit in the 2nd play-in game. Got it?"

"Yes, sir, Mr. Silver."

Posted
2 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Remember when Dan Gilbert was threatening the Miami Heat for tampering with LeBron, but then quietly backed down and got the #1 pick in The next draft? Total coincidence.

Also the Cavs getting the Ohio native LeBron in 03 seemed like just a happy coincidence that could make a small market team relevant, and create a nice narrative to write about for years to come. 

Then getting the #1 pick again when LeBron makes his triumphant return to Cleveland? Well, it's just the way the balls drop. 

It's a pattern, and people love to find patterns. Hard to not see it, maybe it's not rigged every year, but it sure feels like it is some of the time. 

A pattern without experimentation is fools gold. OMG I found so much gold turned out to iron but it's a conspiracy!

At the end of the day Cleveland parlayed those picks into Kyrie, Bennett and Wiggins. A HoF, the greatest bust of all time, and an extreme late blossom. It was all LeBron James playing GM that even gave them a shot at a miracle (down 3-1 to the warriors).

The idea that Cleveland would be happy losing LeBron even for 3 #1 is insane. They were just giga incompetent, I am kinda shocked that they are making noise in the East right now since a better org in Utah couldn't with Donovan Mitchel.

Posted
5 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

So how do you figure it played out?

"Okay, Nico, if you trade Luka to the Lakers, we'll gift wrap you the #1 pick. But you have to avoid the playoffs outright. Luckily, AD will probably get hurt in his first game as a Mav. If that's not enough to plummet down the standings, maybe Kyrie will suffer a season ending injury to be safe. Then we'll let you beat a shit team like, say, Sacramento in the play-in to not make it seem too obvious. But have your team totally quit in the 2nd play-in game. Got it?"

"Yes, sir, Mr. Silver."

it was in the wind

Posted
12 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

So how do you figure it played out?

"Okay, Nico, if you trade Luka to the Lakers, we'll gift wrap you the #1 pick. But you have to avoid the playoffs outright. Luckily, AD will probably get hurt in his first game as a Mav. If that's not enough to plummet down the standings, maybe Kyrie will suffer a season ending injury to be safe. Then we'll let you beat a shit team like, say, Sacramento in the play-in to not make it seem too obvious. But have your team totally quit in the 2nd play-in game. Got it?"

"Yes, sir, Mr. Silver."

I assume it was more likely post-Luka trade and Mavericks landing in the lottery, when the black hats got together they decided to award #1 to Dallas.

Posted
2 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

Remember when Dan Gilbert was threatening the Miami Heat for tampering with LeBron, but then quietly backed down and got the #1 pick in The next draft? Total coincidence.

Also the Cavs getting the Ohio native LeBron in 03 seemed like just a happy coincidence that could make a small market team relevant, and create a nice narrative to write about for years to come. 

Then getting the #1 pick again when LeBron makes his triumphant return to Cleveland? Well, it's just the way the balls drop. 

It's a pattern, and people love to find patterns. Hard to not see it, maybe it's not rigged every year, but it sure feels like it is some of the time. 

You’re leaving a ton more data points but we get you

Posted
1 minute ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

shit needs to be done live. no reason at all to be done behind closed doors. If they can broadcast the Vietnam draft lottery, we can sit around and watch this

Because there were less crackpot theories when David Stern was pulling envelopes out of a hat?

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Posted
5 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Because there were less crackpot theories when David Stern was pulling envelopes out of a hat?

its no different than the mega millions or powerball done @ 10 oclock at night. it'll take a whopping 3 min. then we can see what its like. 

Posted
5 hours ago, linux said:

That said they need to review the rules once again, the new system encourages more teams tanking, but if they elminate the lottery and do it like the NFL, would NBA teams still tank from the start of the season anyhow?

The whole reason they went to the lottery system was cause teams were tanking whole seasons.   At least now there is a chance even if you tank you get boned.   

Posted
49 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

People who legitimately think that the NBA Draft is rigged are dumb. Straight up.

Yeah its fun to play in the conspiracy theories but there is no way other owners would sign off on the league choosing the team that gets the pick

Posted
41 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

shit needs to be done live. no reason at all to be done behind closed doors. If they can broadcast the Vietnam draft lottery, we can sit around and watch this

I think they do show it? And they have unbiased reporters/journalists like Lowe there all the time that would never go along with a conspiracy. 

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