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9 hours ago, 6th Street said:

We already know what's coming:

Ryan Wingo looks like a man possessed! 

O line is really coming together as a unit!

Kobe Black is the next great Texas corner

Filsiame is emerging as a leader on Defense

Bookmarking this post for the summertime when hopium is at its peak. Also you forgot "I'm hearing the team really has a chip on their shoulder from being left out of the CFP last year," and "The S&C program this year has been tougher than ever, with reports of players puking in the locker room," and "Wow, Arch is really showing his leadership by arranging 7x7 sessions without the coaches even involved!"

Any other troupes we missed?

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5 hours ago, westexhorn said:

I am not sure i can trust our coaches and 9.95ers regarding their talent evaluation of OLs (primarly C, G, C) and RBs.  The shit that was trotted out this year was fucking abysmal and yet they were all convinced of the opposite, that we had championship level line and run game.  

Even now as i reflecf on it, this shit was so absurd and comical it could have been source material for an episode of Seinfield or something.

It goes further, there must have been a fundamental problem with how we practiced or chose to run practice that hid the issues. It wasn’t just the $9.95ers. Former players and guests who visited practice saw nothing wrong. Casey Studdard was telling anyone who could listen how mean and impressive the line looked. When your practice isn’t identifying what can go wrong, then you aren’t practicing the right way.

I just hope there’s some oversight or self-scouting system in place to correct these systematic issues, versus Sark just chalking everything up to bad luck and continuing to think he knows better than everyone while dm’ing Dallas milfs on instagram.

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45 minutes ago, someguy said:

the thing killing this program right now are the mid 4-star types who think they are 5-star sure fire NFL first round picks, and act like it despite not having earned a damn thing.  Most of these kids have agents and family members in their ears telling them to sit out, protect their draft stock, don't risk putting up bad film if less than 100%, don't risk injury playing against lesser teams.  These are back ups, mind you.  Texas has indulged this the last few years.  It bit them in the ass this year and will continue to bite them in the ass if something doesn't change.  I'm hopeful that it will.

I'm increasingly of the mind that Texas should pay a premium for the no doubt unique talents and pay for proven production and avoid/be hyper selective for those upper mid tier high school recruits.  Time will tell, but I'm growing in my belief that this new evolution of free transfers and 6/7 figure payments out of high school are hindering the development of a high proportion of these guys.  Find the ones who are truly devoted to the craft and/or know how to handle the money and have a support system around them that is conducive to development.  Otherwise, find the ones who form their work ethic at the G5/lower P4 level and have successfully developed and bring them in.

Do you want to replace Brandon Harris and implement this strategy?... Pretty please.

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Entering 2025, he remained buried on the depth chart behind Ryan Wingo, Emmett Mosley V, DeAndre Moore Jr. and Parker Livingstone along with incoming true freshman like Daylan McCutcheo, Jaime Ffrench and Kaliq Lockett.

Butler saw action during non-conference play this season against UTEP, Sam Houston State ad San Jose State, which was highlighted by a 17-yard catch against Sam Houston, but the writing has been on the wall.

With the majority of Texas' wide receiving corps likely to return, he would remain deep on the bench. It's probably in Butler's best interest to head elsewhere if he wants to receive playing time."

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33 minutes ago, someguy said:

the thing killing this program right now are the mid 4-star types who think they are 5-star sure fire NFL first round picks, and act like it despite not having earned a damn thing.  Most of these kids have agents and family members in their ears telling them to sit out, protect their draft stock, don't risk putting up bad film if less than 100%, don't risk injury playing against lesser teams.  These are back ups, mind you.  Texas has indulged this the last few years.  It bit them in the ass this year and will continue to bite them in the ass if something doesn't change.  I'm hopeful that it will.

I'm increasingly of the mind that Texas should pay a premium for the no doubt unique talents and pay for proven production and avoid/be hyper selective for those upper mid tier high school recruits.  Time will tell, but I'm growing in my belief that this new evolution of free transfers and 6/7 figure payments out of high school are hindering the development of a high proportion of these guys.  Find the ones who are truly devoted to the craft and/or know how to handle the money and have a support system around them that is conducive to development.  Otherwise, find the ones who form their work ethic at the G5/lower P4 level and have successfully developed and bring them in.

That was always the issue with getting people the prize before actually having to do the work. 

It sounded like they were actively working against that risk, but maybe they fell in love with competing for recruiting rankings instead of hard filtering for mentality.

Even the high dollar guys Oregon signs sit out longer than they likely need to, but it doesn’t hurt them since they only play a handful of teams who can punish them for it. 

That’s the next step in the culture/brotherhood we have to build. Getting them to prioritize playing for the standard/team over personal goals.

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Along those lines, I thought it was interesting how emphatic Sark was in the Arkansas postgame about Anthony Hill playing against A&M.
Then as the week progressed, it was clear that Hill wasn’t gonna play. 
Finally in his draft declaration post, Hill made no mention of Sark at all. 

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2 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

Bookmarking this post for the summertime when hopium is at its peak. Also you forgot "I'm hearing the team really has a chip on their shoulder from being left out of the CFP last year," and "The S&C program this year has been tougher than ever, with reports of players puking in the locker room," and "Wow, Arch is really showing his leadership by arranging 7x7 sessions without the coaches even involved!"

Any other troupes we missed?

Don't forget the random true freshman JAG who really flashed during camp and "turning heads". Don't be surprised to see him push for early playing time! Only for him to never see the field

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On 12/6/2025 at 12:58 PM, DZX158 said:

First CJ helped Texas get to the playoffs in year 1. So let’s not act like he wasn’t a key player on the team his freshman year. Where I think you have to be careful when dealing with his situation which is unique in my opinion. He’s a leader on and off the field for the team. He is also popular in Central Florida where there are a lot of talented young football players who look up to him. I would rather he leave as a lifetime longhorn on good terms than a bad breakup. It would go a long way opening doors in an area Sark wants to recruit.

You are operating from an archaic viewpoint on recruiting and a position of fear.  Recruiting for the most part these days is a $$$ transactional decision.  You think we will struggle at recruiting in Central Florida because we overpaid him for years based on his upside potential?  This isn't 1998...  This is the new landscape of college football and recruiting.

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1 hour ago, someguy said:

the thing killing this program right now are the mid 4-star types who think they are 5-star sure fire NFL first round picks, and act like it despite not having earned a damn thing.  Most of these kids have agents and family members in their ears telling them to sit out, protect their draft stock, don't risk putting up bad film if less than 100%, don't risk injury playing against lesser teams.  These are back ups, mind you.  Texas has indulged this the last few years.  It bit them in the ass this year and will continue to bite them in the ass if something doesn't change.  I'm hopeful that it will.

I'm increasingly of the mind that Texas should pay a premium for the no doubt unique talents and pay for proven production and avoid/be hyper selective for those upper mid tier high school recruits.  Time will tell, but I'm growing in my belief that this new evolution of free transfers and 6/7 figure payments out of high school are hindering the development of a high proportion of these guys.  Find the ones who are truly devoted to the craft and/or know how to handle the money and have a support system around them that is conducive to development.  Otherwise, find the ones who form their work ethic at the G5/lower P4 level and have successfully developed and bring them in.

It seems like Texas is more or less doing this.

I think there are plenty of examples from this past recruiting class where Texas held to its offer on a 4 star type kid and that kid went for bigger money elsewhere. Also, there are the examples where Texas is being aggressive on sure fire talent, which led to us getting Atkinson and Cooper. 

Overall, I think the approach Texas this past recruiting class was in line with this sentiment to not overpay for 4 stars and target sure fire 5 stars. What threw Texas off was 1) they misread how the flood of money across schools would shock the market - this led them to not getting 4-stars at reasonable rates because other schools overpaid + having to be more aggressive of 5 stars than they otherwise expected, and 2) completely misreading the OL landscape - this was partly due to #1 but also poor prioritization on Ojo v. Lee and others.

It seems Texas will be shifting to a more highschool recruiting approach of targeting premium players & value investing in lower 4 stars and 3 stars + portal recruiting for proven players to fill needs and fill development depth. 

I think in the long run, if this approach takes hold across other programs, this will push down the starting income of these 4 stars and/or sink programs that are overpaying for them.

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2 hours ago, someguy said:

Find the ones who are truly devoted to the craft and/or know how to handle the money and have a support system around them that is conducive to development.  Otherwise, find the ones who form their work ethic at the G5/lower P4 level and have successfully developed and bring them in.


That should be the recruiting strategy in general even without NIL being part of the conversation. 

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IT with some updates on DBs who are making decisions

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CB Malik Muhammad: IT caught up with a couple of sources regarding the junior starter. His NFL grade seems to be all over the place. We’ve heard everything from late-first to mid-round. Currently his circle is compiling as much information as possible to make their best informed decision. Nothing is set in stone. However, here’s where it gets tricky. IT has heard one college is making a strong push to keep him playing on Saturdays. At the same time, it’s hard to imagine Texas will break the bank to keep him given the depth chart and bigger roster needs. It’s hard to picture Muhammad in a different uniform but maybe that’s in play. Best guess: After a thorough evaluation of his options he’ll declare for the NFL.

S Jelani McDonald: The safety situation at Texas is entirely different from corner. The position demands more experience and Texas doesn’t have anyone nearly as experienced as McDonald with the ability to return. Oh by the way, he’s a tremendous talent and could be the first safety off the board next year. He fully understands that. It sounds like he’s receiving good advice. Now, Texas just needs the NIL to line up. We’re liking where this one sits currently. 

CB Wardell Mack and S Derek Williams: “I think both are probably out,” said one very strong source on the matter. Another source had been cautioning on both in recent weeks. That’s why IT has been writing “Star (nickel) will be interesting next year.” Mack’s a good player so I could see the staff working extra to keep him. Could a new safeties coach change things with Williams? Eh, I’m not so sure. 

CB Kobe Black: Outside of McDonald this might be the attempt at retainment we’re watching the closest in the secondary. Unfortunately, it feels like the biggest mystery at this point. All we know is the A&M game, where he played sensationally, seems to have rekindled a spark between the two parties. Black came in with lofty expectations this season but was passed by freshman Kade Phillips. You cannot have enough rangy defensive backs…

We’ll continue tracking all of these and more

 

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Moore leaving ultimately to the portal instead of the NFL is what I've been arguing now for weeks. If he goes to the NFL end of things, he's an UDFA based off of what I have seen. He'll get a shitty grade or already has one. The agent will put out feelers and someone in college will be willing to throw $500k at him for another year. Good luck for everyone with that. 

That said, that's a significant clearance of payroll without taking a major roster hit. Either one of the younger guys is ready, or several are, or they can bring in someone elite or offering a more efficient spend with similar productivity. I'd take any of those outcomes over Moore getting his ask again from UT.

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3 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

IT with some updates on DBs who are making decisions

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CB Malik Muhammad: IT caught up with a couple of sources regarding the junior starter. His NFL grade seems to be all over the place. We’ve heard everything from late-first to mid-round. Currently his circle is compiling as much information as possible to make their best informed decision. Nothing is set in stone. However, here’s where it gets tricky. IT has heard one college is making a strong push to keep him playing on Saturdays. At the same time, it’s hard to imagine Texas will break the bank to keep him given the depth chart and bigger roster needs. It’s hard to picture Muhammad in a different uniform but maybe that’s in play. Best guess: After a thorough evaluation of his options he’ll declare for the NFL.

S Jelani McDonald: The safety situation at Texas is entirely different from corner. The position demands more experience and Texas doesn’t have anyone nearly as experienced as McDonald with the ability to return. Oh by the way, he’s a tremendous talent and could be the first safety off the board next year. He fully understands that. It sounds like he’s receiving good advice. Now, Texas just needs the NIL to line up. We’re liking where this one sits currently. 

CB Wardell Mack and S Derek Williams: “I think both are probably out,” said one very strong source on the matter. Another source had been cautioning on both in recent weeks. That’s why IT has been writing “Star (nickel) will be interesting next year.” Mack’s a good player so I could see the staff working extra to keep him. Could a new safeties coach change things with Williams? Eh, I’m not so sure. 

CB Kobe Black: Outside of McDonald this might be the attempt at retainment we’re watching the closest in the secondary. Unfortunately, it feels like the biggest mystery at this point. All we know is the A&M game, where he played sensationally, seems to have rekindled a spark between the two parties. Black came in with lofty expectations this season but was passed by freshman Kade Phillips. You cannot have enough rangy defensive backs…

We’ll continue tracking all of these and more

 

The Muhammad stuff has never not been clickbait, irrespective of site reporting it. The guy has been a known 3 year player since HS. He may wish the NFL had him as the first guy off the board at CB, but that's not ultimately going to keep him from declaring. 3rd round money is still excellent money, and he seems unlikely to fall below that.

Given that Michigan and Oregon have both recently had highly touted NFL-ready CBs tumble on draft day, I'm not sure how compelling taking their money and heading out is for MM's camp. Outside of those two, who the hell can offer 2nd round money, at worst, to lure him to stay in college for another year? Sounds like bullshit.

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