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Just now, satyanash said:

 

this is funny.  as if no case can be made that Texas is better than all 3?  

ND - common opponents, SOS, SOR, Top 15 wins

Miami - SOS, SOR, top 15 wins, (common opponent to Miami), unranked losses

OU - Top 15 wins, H2H(neutral site), SOS

and of course BYU has better SOS and SOR than both ND and Miami, no unranked losses

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Posted
41 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

We will have two top 25 wins and three more in the top 50.  All very decisive or a blowout. Is one 8 team really that much better than another?  Who cares

 

Who are the top 25 wins? USC and?

Posted
27 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Texas should be in. It is a crime that we arent. The committee didnt have an ounce of courage. The 2023 committee wouldve had us in. They had guts. 

 

2023

ADs: Michigan, Navy, NC State, Kentucky, Utah, Miami (OH), K-State, 

Retired HCs: Nevada, Wake Forest, 3rd all-time winningest HBCU HC, 

Misc: All American O-lineman from Nebraska, Fortune 500 exec, national college sports journalist and professor

 

2025

ADs: Nebraska, Utah, current Arky AD (who was Houston’s AD when Texas hired Herman), former Arky AD from 2008-2017, Middle Tennessee St, Miami (OH), 

Retired HCs: Nevada, Michigan St, Oregon St, Virginia,

Misc: Ivan Maisel, All American TE at Ole Miss

 

I think I see the problem here 

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Posted
4 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

2025

ADs: Nebraska, Utah, current Arky AD (who was Houston’s AD when Texas hired Herman), former Arky AD from 2008-2017, Middle Tennessee St, Miami (OH), 

Retired HCs: Nevada, Michigan St, Oregon St, Virginia,

Misc: Ivan Maisel, All American TE at Ole Miss

 

Why are Middle Tennessee State's AD, Miami of Ohio's AD, and Nevada's retired HC even in the room, let alone on the committee in a decision making capability?

Throw in Oregon State and that's 4/12 total positions and 33% of them are from schools that don't represent a P4 conference.

That's just objectively stupid. 

 

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Tulane just clinched a bid by getting their first ranked win of the season over #24 North Texas, barely a Top 25 win for now, but North Texas will fall out of the next rankings. 

The only other ranked team they faced all season was Ole Miss who buttfucked them into oblivion 45-10.

Tulane also lost to 6-6 UTSA. 

What a stupid fucking system. 

 

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Posted
12 hours ago, notre dame joe said:

Even if we look at just that metric in a vacuum; Miami beat who?  ND.

The entire SEC OOC? ND.  Maybe Georgia tech and Michigan.  But then maybe (we beat) USC, Navy, and Boise State.  

 

The entire point of a bloated playoff is to forgive losses from good teams, instead of having your national title hopes dashed by one loss and then later two losses.  Well, we have the best losses.

 

BYU has a better resume than yours by just about every metric and their lone loss is better than yours.

I noticed you seem to have abandoned the "ND is better than every other team in the cfp except Ohio State" delusion, though, so golf clap for that.

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Posted
3 hours ago, notre dame joe said:

 

Navy is #22 on Colley.  Boise won't quite be top 25 but it's a win over a conference champ 9 win team. 

This is almost as bad as aggy trying to claim that beating a 7-5 LSU team is a big win.

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Posted
5 hours ago, notre dame joe said:

 

Navy is #22 on Colley.  Boise won't quite be top 25 but it's a win over a conference champ 9 win team. 

Colley also has Texas ranked behind UNT and Tulane. Like we wouldn’t skullfuck both of them. It’s a worthless “matrix”

Posted
4 hours ago, Pods said:

 

Why are Middle Tennessee State's AD, Miami of Ohio's AD, and Nevada's retired HC even in the room, let alone on the committee in a decision making capability?

Throw in Oregon State and that's 4/12 total positions and 33% of them are from schools that don't represent a P4 conference.

That's just objectively stupid. 

 

Sounds like in addition to joining the wrong conference and scheduling the wrong OOC games; y'all couldn't rig the jury?

Sum of all fears for a program that never has an advantage. 

Posted
7 hours ago, notre dame joe said:

 

Navy is #22 on Colley.  Boise won't quite be top 25 but it's a win over a conference champ 9 win team. 

The same rating that has North Texas at #13 and Texas at #21? Does it really track for you that Texas and Navy should be similarly ranked teams? I mean, look at this shit, it is absolute nonsense:

 team rating record SOS: rank top 25  

wins top 50  

wins best game

1. Ohio St 0.966931 12-0 0.544753: 45 3 4 W: #17 Michigan

2. Indiana 0.952599 12-0 0.528032: 58 2 5 W: #5 Oregon

3. BYU 0.922476 11-1 0.576222: 29 2 5 W: #14 Utah

4. Georgia 0.907745 11-1 0.559036: 36 2 4 W: #8 Mississippi

5. Oregon 0.896224 11-1 0.545594: 44 1 3 W: #16 USC

6. Texas A&M 0.882251 11-1 0.529293: 56 1 3 W: #10 Notre Dame

7. Oklahoma 0.878466 10-2 0.608210: 11 2 5 W: #9 Alabama

8. Mississippi 0.878307 11-1 0.524691: 59 2 3 W: #7 Oklahoma

9. Alabama 0.853778 10-2 0.579408: 23 2 5 W: #4 Georgia

10. Notre Dame 0.852777 10-2 0.578240: 24 2 5 W: #16 USC

11. Texas Tech 0.852184 11-1 0.494215: 88 2 3 W: #3 BYU

12. Miami (FL) 0.822636 10-2 0.543076: 47 2 4 W: #10 Notre Dame

13. North Texas 0.815733 11-1 0.451688: 106 1 1 W: #22 Navy

14. Utah 0.805918 10-2 0.523570: 62 0 1 W: #28 Arizona St

15. Vanderbilt 0.805220 10-2 0.522757: 63 0 3 W: #34 Tennessee

16. USC 0.804544 9-3 0.605301: 12 1 2 W: #17 Michigan

17. Michigan 0.801094 9-3 0.601277: 14 0 2 W: #33 Washington

18. Virginia 0.789173 10-2 0.504036: 80 0 2 W: #35 Louisville

19. James Madison 0.788659 11-1 0.420102: 117 0 1 W: #36 Old Dominion

20. Tulane 0.784777 10-2 0.498906: 84 0 3 W: #46 East Carolina

21. Texas 0.773722 9-3 0.569342: 31 3 3 W: #6 Texas A&M

22. Navy 0.760277 9-2 0.489418: 92 1 2 W: #25 South Florida

23. Arizona 0.740408 9-3 0.530476: 53 0 1 W: #28 Arizona St

24. Illinois 0.717287 8-4 0.586835: 20 1 2 W: #16 USC

25. South Florida 0.716153 9-3 0.502179: 81 1 2 W: #13 North Texas

26. Georgia Tech 0.714308 9-3 0.500027: 83 0 2 W: #40 Wake Forest

27. Houston 0.706716 9-3 0.491169: 90 1 2 W: #23 Arizona

28. Arizona St 0.703010 8-4 0.570179: 30 1 3 W: #11 Texas Tech

29. TCU 0.695792 8-4 0.561758: 34 0 2 W: #27 Houston

30. UNLV 0.688470 10-2 0.386549: 134 0 0 W: #55 Hawaii

31. Iowa St 0.687375 8-4 0.551938: 40 1 3 W: #23 Arizona

32. Iowa 0.683335 8-4 0.547224: 42 0 0 W: #51 Minnesota

33. Washington 0.682037 8-4 0.545710: 43 1 1 W: #24 Illinois

34. Tennessee 0.676912 8-4 0.539731: 48 0 0 W: #70 Kentucky

35. Louisville 0.670377 8-4 0.532107: 52 2 3 W: #12 Miami (FL)

36. Old Dominion 0.666249 9-3 0.443958: 107 0 0 W: #60 Troy

37. Missouri 0.661548 8-4 0.521806: 64 0 0 W: #72 Auburn

38. Pittsburgh 0.661194 8-4 0.521393: 65 0 2 W: #26 Georgia Tech

39. LSU 0.655328 7-5 0.597882: 16 0 0 W: #56 Clemson

40. Wake Forest 0.654649 8-4 0.513757: 75 1 3 W: #18 Virginia

41. NC State 0.654448 7-5 0.596856: 17 1 4 W: #18 Virginia

42. Kennesaw State 0.651044 9-3 0.426218: 114 0 0 W: #74 Missouri St

43. New Mexico 0.650783 9-3 0.425914: 115 0 2 W: #30 UNLV

44. SMU 0.647760 8-4 0.505720: 79 1 2 W: #12 Miami (FL)

45. Boise St 0.638219 8-4 0.494589: 87 0 2 W: #30 UNLV

46. East Carolina 0.637466 8-4 0.493710: 89 0 1 W: #49 Memphis

47. Duke 0.637324 7-5 0.576878: 28 0 2 W: #40 Wake Forest

48. San Diego St 0.630016 9-3 0.401685: 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Voluminous Banality said:

Massey 55
Sagarin 69
FPI 70
SP+ 57

 

8 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

BYU has a better resume than yours by just about every metric and their lone loss is better than yours.

I noticed you seem to have abandoned the "ND is better than every other team in the cfp except Ohio State" delusion, though, so golf clap for that.

Nope.  We would be dogs to Ohio State, maybe small underdogs to Oregon and Georgia.  I'm happy for a chance to thrash the rest of the field, particular fakers like Oklahoma and Alabama. 

5 hours ago, Bert Orange said:

Maybe quote Sagarin. Where ND is #2….

 

and Penn State is #14

 

 

Again we beat three 9 win teams, and Navy will likely become a 10 win team next week.  That's just a piece of the puzzle showing that we didn't play a joke schedule, not that we ever do.

 

And where are you getting the idea that BYU is better than ND in any measure?  Massey gives BYU #15-defense amd #20 in offense.  ND is 1 and 6th.  

 

The one thing that ND, BYU, ND, and USC have in common is that we are much higher in the computers than the human polls. https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings

Posted
2 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

 

Nope.  We would be dogs to Ohio State, maybe small underdogs to Oregon and Georgia.  I'm happy for a chance to thrash the rest of the field, particular fakers like Oklahoma and Alabama. 

Again we beat three 9 win teams, and Navy will likely become a 10 win team next week.  That's just a piece of the puzzle showing that we didn't play a joke schedule, not that we ever do.

 

And where are you getting the idea that BYU is better than ND in any measure?  Massey gives BYU #15-defense amd #20 in offense.  ND is 1 and 6th.  

 

The one thing that ND, BYU, ND, and USC have in common is that we are much higher in the computers than the human polls. https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings

How’s this comparison to BYU and computer intelligence working out for you?

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

 

Nope.  We would be dogs to Ohio State, maybe small underdogs to Oregon and Georgia.  I'm happy for a chance to thrash the rest of the field, particular fakers like Oklahoma and Alabama. 

Again we beat three 9 win teams, and Navy will likely become a 10 win team next week.  That's just a piece of the puzzle showing that we didn't play a joke schedule, not that we ever do.

 

And where are you getting the idea that BYU is better than ND in any measure?  Massey gives BYU #15-defense amd #20 in offense.  ND is 1 and 6th.  

 

The one thing that ND, BYU, ND, and USC have in common is that we are much higher in the computers than the human polls. https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings

Nobody cares man fuck Notre Dame

I hate post merge

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Posted
5 hours ago, Bert Orange said:

Colley also has Texas ranked behind UNT and Tulane. Like we wouldn’t skullfuck both of them. It’s a worthless “matrix”

Colley is a binary where a win is 1 and loss is 0.  That's the metric everyone uses when they want to exclude ND because it treats last minute losses to A&M and Miami the same as Alabama getting crushed by Florida State.

 

If we are going to be faulted for pure W-L then we get credited for beating opponents' W-L.  

https://colleyrankings.com/currank.html

 

Posted
1 minute ago, notre dame joe said:

Colley is a binary where a win is 1 and loss is 0.  That's the metric everyone uses when they want to exclude ND because it treats last minute losses to A&M and Miami the same as Alabama getting crushed by Florida State.

 

If we are going to be faulted for pure W-L then we get credited for beating opponents' W-L.  

https://colleyrankings.com/currank.html

 

Because you played no FUCKING body. 

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So annoying that ND is what is keeping Texas out of the playoffs. If those retards had just lost to BC then Texas wouldve definitely been in front of these idiots from Miami. Fucking scam school that gets absolutely embarrassed in every title game I have ever seen from them. 

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Posted (edited)

ND played two schools that matter and lost to both. And coincidentally beat three teams with good records because those schools also played nobody. 
 

the ND argument is the most horsehit no weight argument since the playoffs began. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

So annoying that ND is what is keeping Texas out of the playoffs. If those retards had just lost to BC then Texas wouldve definitely been in front of these idiots from Miami. Fucking scam school that gets absolutely embarrassed in every title game I have ever seen from them. 

Notre Dame isn't keeping Texas out of the playoffs.

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Posted
Just now, David Dennison said:

Notre Dame isn't keeping Texas out of the playoffs.

We would 100% be in if they had another loss on their resume. I guess you could blame the pussy committee that is too afraid to drop them behind us. 

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Posted
Just now, The_Great_Hornsby said:

We would 100% be in if they had another loss on their resume. I guess you could blame the pussy committee that is too afraid to drop them behind us. 

No, we wouldn't. They'd just move another two loss team ahead of us. Probably Vanderbilt.

It's the three regular season losses keeping us out of the playoff.

Posted
Just now, David Dennison said:

No, we wouldn't. They'd just move another two loss team ahead of us. Probably Vanderbilt.

It's the three regular season losses keeping us out of the playoff.

Oh, the Vandy team we are ranked ahead of right now and beat head to head?

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Posted
3 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

So annoying that ND is what is keeping Texas out of the playoffs. If those retards had just lost to BC then Texas wouldve definitely been in front of these idiots from Miami. Fucking scam school that gets absolutely embarrassed in every title game I have ever seen from them. 

we are higher on every metric the committee says they consider

SOS, SOR, Common Opponents,

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Posted
1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

we are higher on every metric the committee says they consider

SOS, SOR, Common Opponents,

Sure. All factual. But losses and the manner of losses matter most to the committee. Is what it is. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Bert Orange said:

Sure. All factual. But losses and the manner of losses matter most to the committee. Is what it is. 

I'm really surprised at how many people didn't realize Georgia was a must win game.

Posted
5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'm really surprised at how many people didn't realize Georgia was a must win game.

Sadly it was after Florida. Before that loss, it wasn’t so. 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Notre Dame isn't keeping Texas out of the playoffs.

 

19 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

We would 100% be in if they had another loss on their resume. I guess you could blame the pussy committee that is too afraid to drop them behind us. 

 

18 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

No, we wouldn't. They'd just move another two loss team ahead of us. Probably Vanderbilt.

It's the three regular season losses keeping us out of the playoff.

It's mostly the W-L.  But it's also the games against Mississippi State, Kentucky, Florida, UGA.  The PC talks a lot but they generally sort by W-L and follow the computers.  

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

 

 

It's mostly the W-L.  But it's also the games against Mississippi State, Kentucky, Florida, UGA.  The PC talks a lot but they generally sort by W-L and follow the computers.  

Do you think yall will be bumped for Miami? I think yall will be UNLESS they move you up to 9 and Bama to 10 to give insulation. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Do you think yall will be bumped for Miami? I think yall will be UNLESS they move you up to 9 and Bama to 10 to give insulation. 

I think another playoff spot was opened up early this afternoon.  

 

Bump Miami up to 11 and then swap Miami with #10 ND (after we got swapped with Bama for their magnificent one TD win over an inept Auburn)?  Gun to my head I would guess NO, Miami already got their stay home and eat cheeseburger award by getting in and possibly being #11. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

I think another playoff spot was opened up early this afternoon.  

 

Bump Miami up to 11 and then swap Miami with #10 ND (after we got swapped with Bama for their magnificent one TD win over an inept Auburn)?  Gun to my head I would guess NO, Miami already got their stay home and eat cheeseburger award by getting in and possibly being #11. 

#11 isnt getting in my dude. Only #10. No spot opened up. 

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