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Just now, royiv said:

Again, that’s not what’s being argued here. Do you or do you not support using our military in domestic law enforcement operations? If you do, why are you focused on Chicago instead of cities with higher crime rates? 

I’m for it anywhere. I just find it funny to see Pritzker pulling a Baghdad Bob routine. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Hitch said:

I’m for it anywhere. I just find it funny to see Pritzker pulling a Baghdad Bob routine. 

Fuck the Posse Comitatus Act, amirite.

So weird that yet another conservative is "all for" the US military being sent into American cities...

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Fuck the Posse Comitatus Act, amirite.

So weird that yet another conservative is "all for" the US military being sent into American cities...

Temporarily, absolutely. Feeling safe is actually really great. 

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Posted (edited)

For those conservatives who still believe that the law should be upheld (lol)

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Indeed, Task Force 51 troops’ conduct clearly qualifies as Posse Comitatus Act violations under the tests that courts use to apply the Act. Defendants’ presence to bolster  DHS and DEA operations and shows of force exercises regulatory, proscriptive, and compulsory power on the surrounding public, and their participation in operations in numbers that match or outnumber law enforcement agents pervade the activities of those civilian agents

This was intentional—Defendants instigated a months-long deployment of the National Guard and Marines to Los Angeles for the purpose of establishing a military presence there and enforcing federal law. Such conduct is a serious violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. In fact, these violations were part of a top-down, systemic effort by Defendants to use military troops to execute various sectors of federal law (the drug laws and the immigration laws at least) across hundreds of miles and over the course of several months—and counting. The instructions to train Task Force 51 on the purported constitutional exception and thereby excuse unlawful military conduct came “all the way from the top” of the Department of Defense. And as Major General Sherman testified at trial, federal law enforcement agencies “always wanted military there, and we had plenty of capacity to do that.” 

Accordingly, Secretary Hegseth himself ordered troops to MacArthur Park as a “show of presence” and to “demonstrat[e] federal reach and presence.” Troops drove over a hundred miles to Mecca, where they significantly outnumbered federal law enforcement agents, to support a drug enforcement operation. Troops also drove nearly a hundred miles in a different direction to Carpinteria to set up traffic control points so that federal law enforcement agents could more efficiently execute their search warrant of a cannabis farm. That sets this case apart from others where courts have so far addressed the Posse Comitatus Act. Those cases involve military actions that are both passive and isolated in nature. See, e.g., Yunis, 924 F.2d at 1094 (Navy “housing, transporting, and caring for [a criminal defendant] while he was in the custody of the FBI” not a Posse Comitatus Act violation); Kahn, 35 F.3d at 432 (Navy provision of ships and backup support during a single search of a ship transporting illegal drugs not a Posse Comitatus Act violation); Hartley, 796 F.2d at 115 (Air Force communication of information regarding an unidentified aircraft entering the country not a Posse Comitatus Act violation); Bacon, 851 F.2d at 1313 (participation by a single army officer in a drug investigation not “aggravated or repeated,” and thus not a Posse Comitatus Act violation).

Where military conduct is more coordinated and systemic, by contrast, courts have found Posse Comitatus Act violations. E.g., Dreyer, 804 F.3d at 1275–76 (NCIS investigation was “systemic” and thus violated Posse Comitatus Act); see also Bissonette, 776 F.2d at 1385 (ten-week-long occupation at Wounded Knee violated the Posse Comitatus Act). Yet another departure from those prior cases is Defendants’ complete sidelining of state and local authorities here. Even though multiple federal agencies and Task Force 51 rehearsed Operation Excalibur several times, they provided LAPD and LASD with a mere two hours’ notice of the operation. Likewise, federal agencies notified local law enforcement of cannabis farm raids only at the time of the raids, not beforehand. This is not typical. In those Posse Comitatus Act cases where state and local law enforcement had jurisdiction (i.e., not cases like Kahn, which involved events in international waters), federal troops generally worked alongside state and local officials. See, e.g., Bacon, 851 F.2d at 1313 (Army investigator worked jointly with local sheriff’s office); Hartley, 796 F.2d at 113 (Customs and other non-military officials performed search based on not fall under such an exception.

Troops do not serve a protective function when they act as a force multiplier at a “show of presence” (as in MacArthur Park), when they outnumber federal personnel by 100 at a remote location with a low risk of resistance (as in Mecca), or when they are deployed merely to speed up federal operations (as in Carpinteria).  Defendants’ lack of cooperation with their state and local counterparts raises red flags. It also highlights the lack of any showing by Defendants that state and local officials were unable or unwilling to execute the laws before Defendants deployed troops to engage in typical law enforcement functions.

Moreover, Defendants violated the Posse Comitatus Act willfully. Defendants knowingly contradicted their own training materials, which listed twelve functions that the Posse Comitatus Act bars the military from performing. They did so while refusing to meaningfully coordinate with state and local officials. And they “coach[ed]” federal law enforcement agencies as to what language to use when submitting requests for assistance in an attempt to circumvent the Act. These actions demonstrate that Defendants knew that they were ordering troops to execute domestic law beyond their usual authority. Whether they believed that some constitutional or other exception applied does not matter; “ignorance of the law is no excuse.” Bryan v. United States, 524 U.S. 184, 195 (1998).25 Defendants’ systemic use of Task Force 51 troops to execute domestic law in and around Los Angeles violated the Posse Comitatus Act.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.450934/gov.uscourts.cand.450934.176.0_1.pdf

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Posted
1 minute ago, Hitch said:

Temporarily, absolutely. Feeling safe is actually really great. 

What about having a pedo president covering up for his pedo friends, does that feel really great?

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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, mchookem said:

half of the top 10 worst cities are in red states. Chicago is consistently like, what, 29, 30??

it's absolutely amazing what propaganda does to people's ability to understand objective numbers 😐

 

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Which party has majority control of these cities (in some cases for decades)?

 

2025-02_CPSI Working Paper_US City Homicide Stats.pdf

 

Here are 10 cities with the highest murder rates

by Ashleigh Fields - 09/03/25 10:39 AM ET

 

 

Jackson, Miss.

 

Birmingham, Ala.

 

St. Louis, Mo.

 

Memphis, Tenn.

Baltimore

Detroit

 

Cleveland, Ohio

 

Louisville, Ky.

 

Indianapolis, Ind.

 

Oakland, Calif.

10 US cities with the highest homicide rate as Trump threatens federal crime intervention

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Posted
1 minute ago, ChickenSandwich said:

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Which party has majority control of these cities (in some cases for decades)?

And which party has majority control in almost all of the cities seeing the largest DECLINES in crime?  

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Including one of the cities he ALREADY sent the military into for no fucking reason, by the way.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Foosters said:

Hi, I'm a conservative American and I believe that the US Military should be setting up traffic checkpoints on streets in every American city. I am a serious person.

People like feeling safe. This is a losing issue for you guys unfortunately. 

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Posted
Just now, royiv said:

I don’t feel safe with the US military occupying the city I live in. 

but you're an "enemy of the state" and a "traitor" as the US president has repeatedly stated. why would they care about you?

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Posted
2 minutes ago, royiv said:

I don’t feel safe with the US military occupying the city I live in. 

That’s odd. But hey it takes all kinds. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, elguapo said:

We live in a time where supporters of our pedo president accuse others of being odd because they aren't comfortable with forced military occupation.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, elguapo said:

We live in a time where supporters of our pedo president accuse others of being odd because they aren't comfortable with forced military occupation.

Wait, where is it reported that Trump is a pedophile? 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Everything has gotten so stupid. 

I mean, just a few years ago, we lived in a world where he had a pretty commonly held American belief that deploying the military in American cities as a show of force was a bad, unconstitutional, and illegal thing.  Conservatives, including MAGA conservatives, actually led the charge on those beliefs (no gestapo in bastropo, Kristi Noem's statements, etc.).

Then, like a switch flipped....DOTARD says "I'm going to militarily occupy American cities," and those exact same people are all for it.  

Which reveals that they NEVER had a problem with government overreach, abuses of power, the use of the military, violations of the constitution, etc.  They only had a problem with anyone but their chosen Fuhrer doing those things.  When HE does them....all of them are not just okay, but they are good, and to be defended.

That's where we are.  The group of people leading us, and voting for that leadership, has no guiding principles other than "all the power, and only I get to wield it."

1 minute ago, Hitch said:

Wait, where is it reported that Trump is a pedophile? 

I mean.....everywhere?  Unless you're cool with adult men fucking teenage girls. 

Which, of course, as a member of MAGA, you are.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I mean, just a few years ago, we lived in a world where he had a pretty commonly held American belief that deploying the military in American cities as a show of force was a bad, unconstitutional, and illegal thing.  Conservatives, including MAGA conservatives, actually led the charge on those beliefs (no gestapo in bastropo, Kristi Noem's statements, etc.).

Then, like a switch flipped....DOTARD says "I'm going to militarily occupy American cities," and those exact same people are all for it.  

Which reveals that they NEVER had a problem with government overreach, abuses of power, the use of the military, violations of the constitution, etc.  They only had a problem with anyone but their chosen Fuhrer doing those things.  When HE does them....all of them are not just okay, but they are good, and to be defended.

That's where we are.  The group of people leading us, and voting for that leadership, has no guiding principles other than "all the power, and only I get to wield it."

I mean.....everywhere?  Unless you're cool with adult men fucking teenage girls. 

Which, of course, as a member of MAGA, you are.

So there’s a report of Trump fucking an underage girl. Can you post it please? 

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Posted
Just now, Hitch said:

So there’s a report of Trump fucking an underage girl. Can you post it please? 

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You are not a serious person.  If you don't know anything about that, it's purposeful ignorance.  Of course, you DO know, and you're just trying a thread derail.

How about you tell us how the EXACT same people who said that the deployment of the military on US soil was wrong and illegal...is now good policy, and should be defended?

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

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You are not a serious person.  If you don't know anything about that, it's purposeful ignorance.  Of course, you DO know, and you're just trying a thread derail.

How about you tell us how the EXACT same people who said that the deployment of the military on US soil was wrong and illegal...is now good policy, and should be defended?

So you just made it up, got it. 

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Posted
On 8/28/2025 at 10:41 AM, Beau Vine said:

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The orange shitstain was talking today about sending troops to New Orleans.  I guess since the Louisiana troops are in Washington DC we’ll get troops from Utah.

5D Chess!

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Posted
1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Google it, you disingenuous piece of shit.  FFS, the results cascade for multiple pages.

I did. I don’t see any report of him being a pedophile. Can you provide the story that you’re referencing? 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

How about you tell us how the EXACT same people who said that the deployment of the military on US soil was wrong and illegal...is now good policy, and should be defended?

And Hitch, I repeat -- to stick with the thread topic. Answer the question, you gutless coward.  

Posted
11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I mean, just a few years ago, we lived in a world where he had a pretty commonly held American belief that deploying the military in American cities as a show of force was a bad, unconstitutional, and illegal thing.  Conservatives, including MAGA conservatives, actually led the charge on those beliefs (no gestapo in bastropo, Kristi Noem's statements, etc.).

Then, like a switch flipped....DOTARD says "I'm going to militarily occupy American cities," and those exact same people are all for it.  

Which reveals that they NEVER had a problem with government overreach, abuses of power, the use of the military, violations of the constitution, etc.  They only had a problem with anyone but their chosen Fuhrer doing those things.  When HE does them....all of them are not just okay, but they are good, and to be defended.

That's where we are.  The group of people leading us, and voting for that leadership, has no guiding principles other than "all the power, and only I get to wield it."

I mean.....everywhere?  Unless you're cool with adult men fucking teenage girls. 

Which, of course, as a member of MAGA, you are.

lotta fancy words to say people are fucking hypocrites with no actual principles

Posted
32 minutes ago, ImNotMarkinson said:

I remember very little of the declaration of independence except 

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

And there's this:

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

In the near-immortal words of PJ O'Rourke, Triple George was a piker compared to Trump.  I have a feeling PJ would have been having a field day with Trump.

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Posted

I think Hinch's thing is that he's ok with Trump being a rapist and serial sexual assaulter, but since there's never been a finding of guilt by a court regarding his proclivity for fucking children, he's still gonna support him. 

You just have to hope to god he doesn't have a daughter.

Posted
1 minute ago, Foosters said:

I think Hinch's thing is that he's ok with Trump being a rapist and serial sexual assaulter, but since there's never been a finding of guilt by a court regarding his proclivity for fucking children, he's still gonna support him. 

You just have to hope to god he doesn't have a daughter.

Keep it on topic, he is a troll TRYING to derail from the topic.  I repeat to Hitch:

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

How about you tell us how the EXACT same people who said that the deployment of the military on US soil was wrong and illegal...is now good policy, and should be defended?

 

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Posted
Just now, Foosters said:

I think Hinch's thing is that he's ok with Trump being a rapist and serial sexual assaulter, but since there's never been a finding of guilt by a court regarding his proclivity for fucking children, he's still gonna support him. 

You just have to hope to god he doesn't have a daughter.

the good thing is, if a court were ever to find trump guilty of a crime, he'd be done with him forever.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I think Hinch's thing is that he's ok with Trump being a rapist and serial sexual assaulter, but since there's never been a finding of guilt by a court regarding his proclivity for fucking children, he's still gonna support him. 

You just have to hope to god he doesn't have a daughter.

Lmao. AKA we made some shit up 

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Posted
Just now, Hitch said:

Lmao. AKA we made some shit up 

 

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

How about you tell us how the EXACT same people who said that the deployment of the military on US soil was wrong and illegal...is now good policy, and should be defended?

 

Posted

So I just heard on NPR that Trump is now saying NO instead of Chicago and citing consent of governor/local officials.

Seems their appetite for defying court orders is waning.  Even radical left courts.

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Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Hitch said:

So there’s a report of Trump fucking an underage girl. Can you post it please? 

 

17 minutes ago, Hitch said:

So you just made it up, got it. 

 

5 minutes ago, Hitch said:

Lmao. AKA we made some shit up 

It was pretty broadly reported during his first run, before all his supporters decided they LOVED pedophiles

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-donald-trumps-one-stop-parties-attendees-recall-cocaine-and-very-young-models/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-trump-hosted-cocaine-fueled-parties-with-underage-girls/

(links to supporting news found on his wikipedia page, content is copy/pasted below here)

A photographer who attended some of those parties and wished to remain anonymous, said that the models were enticed to attend by being promised that “you’ll meet rich guys who will help you.”

And the attraction for the men “was young girls assuming they’d get somewhere.”

He claimed that the girls were as young as 15, and were “over their heads, they had no idea, and they ended up in situations,” the man told The Daily Beast, according to the report. “There were always dramas because the men threw money and drugs at them to keep them enticed. It’s based on power and dominating girls who can’t push back and can be discarded. There’s always someone to pick them back up. Nobody wants to call home and say ‘Help me.’”

Trump would allegedly wander through the parties enjoying himself. “Trump was in and out. He’d wander off with a couple girls. I saw him. He was getting laid like crazy,” the photographer said. “Trump was at the heart of it. He loved the attention and in private, he was a total fucking beast.”

...

Andy Lucchesi, a male model who allegedly organized the parties and a Trump supporter, told The Daily Beast that “there was cocaine around. I never saw him do that. Donald Trump does not do cocaine. He’s in control of himself.”

When asked about the ages of the girls, Lucchesi told The Daily Beast that there were “a lot of girls, 14, look 24. That’s as juicy as I can get. I never asked how old they were; I just partook.”

There was no response from Trump’s team to the report, the latest of a series of tawdry scandals to dog the campaign in the final stretch of the election season, including allegations of sexual assault by Trump.

Trump has denied the allegations, in one case saying the accuser was not attractive enough for him.

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Trump has denied the allegations, in one case saying the accuser was not attractive enough for him.

That's what he said about E Jean Carroll, too.

Do you not, Hitch, find it interesting that the Trump administration is now resisting releasing the Epstein files after making such a big deal of it during his campaign?

And also giving convicted hands-on sex offenders like Ghislaine Maxwell treatment (incarceration in a camp) that no other sex offender has ever received, but only after being interviewed by Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and giving the right answers?  And posting the transcript online?

I don't recall the Biden crime family going to any such lengths to avoid Hunter's laptop.

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I love how being a spineless coward who doesn't feel safe entering urban areas without a military escort or 14 guns strapped to their person is a conservative badge of honor these days.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

I love how being a spineless coward who doesn't feel safe entering urban areas without a military escort or 14 guns strapped to their person is a conservative badge of honor these days.

Also this.

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Biggest snowflake cowards this country has ever seen.  They make Obama Pajama Boy look like a raging alpha male.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Captainant said:

 

 

It was pretty broadly reported during his first run, before all his supporters decided they LOVED pedophiles

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-donald-trumps-one-stop-parties-attendees-recall-cocaine-and-very-young-models/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-trump-hosted-cocaine-fueled-parties-with-underage-girls/

 

A photographer who attended some of those parties and wished to remain anonymous, said that the models were enticed to attend by being promised that “you’ll meet rich guys who will help you.”

And the attraction for the men “was young girls assuming they’d get somewhere.”

He claimed that the girls were as young as 15, and were “over their heads, they had no idea, and they ended up in situations,” the man told The Daily Beast, according to the report. “There were always dramas because the men threw money and drugs at them to keep them enticed. It’s based on power and dominating girls who can’t push back and can be discarded. There’s always someone to pick them back up. Nobody wants to call home and say ‘Help me.’”

Trump would allegedly wander through the parties enjoying himself. “Trump was in and out. He’d wander off with a couple girls. I saw him. He was getting laid like crazy,” the photographer said. “Trump was at the heart of it. He loved the attention and in private, he was a total fucking beast.”

...

Andy Lucchesi, a male model who allegedly organized the parties and a Trump supporter, told The Daily Beast that “there was cocaine around. I never saw him do that. Donald Trump does not do cocaine. He’s in control of himself.”

When asked about the ages of the girls, Lucchesi told The Daily Beast that there were “a lot of girls, 14, look 24. That’s as juicy as I can get. I never asked how old they were; I just partook.”

There was no response from Trump’s team to the report, the latest of a series of tawdry scandals to dog the campaign in the final stretch of the election season, including allegations of sexual assault by Trump.

Trump has denied the allegations, in one case saying the accuser was not attractive enough for him.

So an anonymous photographer said there were underage girls at a party. Where does he say he slept with an underage girl? 

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Posted
Just now, Hitch said:

So an anonymous photographer said there were underage girls at a party. Where does he say he slept with an underage girl? 

How about you tell us how the EXACT same people who said that the deployment of the military on US soil was wrong and illegal...is now good policy, and should be defended?

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Posted
6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's what he said about E Jean Carroll, too.

Do you not, Hitch, find it interesting that the Trump administration is now resisting releasing the Epstein files after making such a big deal of it during his campaign?

And also giving convicted hands-on sex offenders like Ghislaine Maxwell treatment (incarceration in a camp) that no other sex offender has ever received, but only after being interviewed by Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and giving the right answers?

I’m always seeking new information. If there’s evidence I want to see it. What captain just posted seems… less than reliable. 

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

How about you tell us how the EXACT same people who said that the deployment of the military on US soil was wrong and illegal...is now good policy, and should be defended?

I’m not speaking for them. I’m telling you what I think about the matter. If I were Pritzker, I’d be ecstatic about the help coming my way. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Hitch said:

I’m always seeking new information. If there’s evidence I want to see it. What captain just posted seems… less than reliable. 

Let's just say there's a shit ton of smoke around Trump porking the younguns.

Smoke doesn't always mean fire, but in Trump's case, it usually does.

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