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8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

They definitely need to get rid of ND.

CDC should be spearheading the charge for all SEC teams to cancel future series with ND until they join a conference. 

With the USC series over isn't Navy the only traditional annual game they still play?

Posted
Just now, 'stache said:

With the USC series over isn't Navy the only traditional annual game they still play?

Sucks for them then, they should join a conference. 

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Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Sucks for them then, they should join a conference. 

That's what I'm saying, no reason they can't play a full ACC schedule while still play Navy every year non-con along with another of their neighbors/historical rivals like UM, MSU, and Stanford.

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Posted
22 minutes ago, buffalobill said:

haha. get left out. remember how much was said at the start. look at where your at

I'm here to help; Your v You're

You're a troll

Your favorite store is Target so you can tuck your micro-peen in style.

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Posted
1 minute ago, 'stache said:

no reason

Well the reason is because they get extra special treatment.  Until the committee actually leaves them out at 10-2 or the new format in 2026 and beyond eliminates the special ND carveout,  they have no incentive to do it. 

Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

In both situations, I have a problem with the assumptions. That's not how sports work anywhere else. The NFL doesn't kick a team out of the playoffs if a key player gets hurt in Week 17. Its part of the broader conversation of the complete clusterfuck that is CFB.

Well, the rules are different and the way the NFL and NCAA leagues are set up are different. The NFL doesn't have a selection committee because the rules are straight forward.

With the NCAA, you have zillions of teams playing in different leagues of varying SOS. If you go by the number of losses alone, then you will end up with a bunch of weak teams who played nobody. The goal of the selection committee is to identify top 12 teams at the time of the playoffs, not teams with the fewest losses (even though they are weighing this metric heavily). 

We have a very imperfect system right now where you can argue for or against many teams according to your own bias.

 

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Posted
Just now, BluTechsan said:

Again I ask, was Texas still ranked after playing Ohio St?

Why do you need us to do your homework for you?

You can easily find the week 2 AP and Coaches Polls on the internet. 

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Posted
25 minutes ago, buffalobill said:

still here. you say what you want. I'll be in Norman watching a playoff game. enjoy big jim's discount shoe bowl

Poooooooooooor Sooners. Team is so shitty that you haven’t scored a TD on the Longhorns in several years. Enjoy your quick exit from the playoff. Again. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Well the reason is because they get extra special treatment.  Until the committee actually leaves them out at 10-2 or the new format in 2026 and beyond eliminates the special ND carveout,  they have no incentive to do it. 

They also don't want to split their TV / CFP money with the rest of a conference. 

Notre Dame and Ohio State both earned $20 million from the CFP last season. Ohio State split it's money with the rest of the B1G and received roughly $1.1 million as its share. Notre Dame split it with no one and kept all $20 million. 

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My prediction:

1.   Ohio State (12-0)

2.   Indiana (12-0)

3.   Georgia (11-1)

4.   Texas Tech (11-1)

5.   Oregon (11-1)

6.   Ole Miss (11-1)

7.    Texas A&M (11-1)

8.   Notre Dame (10-2)

 9.   Texas (9-3)

10.   Oklahoma (10-2)

11.   Alabama (10-2)

12.   BYU (11-1)

13.   Vanderbilt (10-2)

14.   Miami (10-2)   

15.   Utah (10-2)

 

OR I could see:

 

6.   Ole Miss (11-1)

7.    Texas A&M (11-1)

8.   Oklahoma (10-2)

9.   Alabama (10-2)

10.  BYU (11-1)

11.  Texas (9-3)

12.  Miami (10-2)

13.  Notre Dame (10-2)

14.  Vanderbilt (10-2)

15.   Utah (10-2)

 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, joeycovers said:

Seems Sark and UT are serious about cancelling OOC games this year. This cant make the Networks happy. For the record here are the most watched games this year. Only this past weekends games not included. 

1.  Texas @ Ohio St 16.62 FOX

2. Georgia @ Tenn 12.5 ABC

3. ND @ Canes 10.80 ABC

4. Bama @ Noles 10.66 ABC

5. Ou @ Bama 10.48 ABC

6. LSU @ Clemson 10.45 ABC

7. Texas @ UGA 10.43 ABC

8. Bama @ UGA 10.42 ABC

9. Miss @ UGA 9.79  ABC

10. Mich @ OU 9.67 ABC

 

Note* im sure Mich/Osu is on this list (FOX) . Maybe UT/ATM (ABC)

 

What I took from this. CFP/ESPN/SEC run CFB viewership and interest. 

5 of the 10 most viewed games were OOC games televised by ABC

9 of the top 10 games were on ABC

With that being said im sure pressure is being put on the committee about this. They absolutely can not start losing Marquee OOC matchups. 

 

I get it but I don't want Texas cancelling the return Michigan or Ohio State games. First off, it looks bad. Second, we're owed those games for going there.

But I would 100% start cancelling any that are further down the line. Replace them with easily-winnable games.

 

36 minutes ago, Drew said:

That's literally how some people think.  11-1 but loss to Florida...we don't deserve it.

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They don't care who you lost to, when, home or road, or by how much...they don't' care how you look, or how well your playing, or poorly, now either.

Just that little crooked number in the loss column.

The statements kind of contradict each other.

 

25 minutes ago, buffalobill said:

still here. you say what you want. I'll be in Norman watching a playoff game. enjoy big jim's discount shoe bowl

Yeah, you won enough to keep Venables around a little longer. You know the coach who hasn't been able to score a TD in Dallas in three of the last four meetings?

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Posted

Seems like the committee should be looking at other sources of data beyond the AP poll.

ESPN College Football Power Index and Sagrin have some interesting rankings.

 

 

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Big 10 as well

At the moment, the B1G isn't losing a playoff team due to ND's inclusion.   The ACC's linkage to ND is causing one of their bubble teams (Miami) to probably be left out. 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

this is exactly what I was mentioning earlier in the thread. Pay attention to how the bobbleheads in media start framing the playoff discussion. This is good for Texas. 


The example isn’t exactly on point as others have pointed out but we live in a media driven narrative society and that is all that matters. The vibes need to be “oh shit if we leave Texas out there will be real world consequences”.  I still think we are going to get left out if the bureaucrats are left to make the decision. They have no vested interest in the quality of the product just not to lose their job. It’s going to have to come from external forces like the Networks saying who gets in. 

I just do not see that happening. Our admin has to have the balls for the nuclear option and cancel Ohio St. And I just do not see CDC with that kind of courage. We will bitch and complain and do absolutely nothing about it. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Fondren & Main said:

Notre Dame's best wins are losses to aggy and canes.  Leave them out.

This is the actual answer and solves everything. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, BluTechsan said:

Again I ask, was Texas still ranked after playing Ohio St?

I'm out of context, but ranked by who?  CFP rankings didn't come out until 11/4.  We had already lost to OSU and FL, but had beaten OU and Vandy and were ranked 10 heading into the UGA game.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

My prediction:

1.   Ohio State (12-0)

2.   Indiana (12-0)

3.   Georgia (11-1)

4.   Texas Tech (11-1)

5.   Oregon (11-1)

6.   Ole Miss (11-1)

7.    Texas A&M (11-1)

8.   Notre Dame (10-2)

 9.   Texas (9-3)

10.   Oklahoma (10-2)

11.   Alabama (10-2)

12.   BYU (11-1)

13.   Vanderbilt (10-2)

14.   Miami (10-2)   

15.   Utah (10-2)

 

OR I could see:

 

6.   Ole Miss (11-1)

7.    Texas A&M (11-1)

8.   Oklahoma (10-2)

9.   Alabama (10-2)

10.  BYU (11-1)

11.  Texas (9-3)

12.  Miami (10-2)

13.  Notre Dame (10-2)

14.  Vanderbilt (10-2)

15.   Utah (10-2)

 

Like both, obviously...if we're top 12 anywhere we still have a chance. 13 or lower and it's dead.

2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

 

The statements kind of contradict each other.

 

 

How?  The fact we loss to a bad team like Florida does NOT matter. The fact that we have 3 losses do. They are literally not looking at who you lose to, OR who you play and beat, just the loss.

Posted (edited)
57 minutes ago, BluTechsan said:

Again I ask, was Texas still ranked after playing Ohio St?

Yes we were ranked, but as the season went on, the AP decided to rank the teams with fewer losses, including some of those whom we beat, ahead of us. So the negative effect of the early season loss had more impact as the season went on. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Newy25 said:


The example isn’t exactly on point as others have pointed out but we live in a media driven narrative society and that is all that matters. The vibes need to be “oh shit if we leave Texas out there will be real world consequences”.  I still think we are going to get left out if the bureaucrats are left to make the decision. They have no vested interest in the quality of the product just not to lose their job. It’s going to have to come from external forces like the Networks saying who gets in. 

I just do not see that happening. Our admin has to have the balls for the nuclear option and cancel Ohio St. And I just do not see CDC with that kind of courage. We will bitch and complain and do absolutely nothing about it. 

its still early. If more and more people come out over this week, you can be more hopeful. I am not close to saying Texas is in. 

Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Well the reason is because they get extra special treatment.  Until the committee actually leaves them out at 10-2 or the new format in 2026 and beyond eliminates the special ND carveout,  they have no incentive to do it. 

Isn't it more their sweetheart TV deal with NBC? They'd make far less in the ACC with its shitty contract. They've spurned the BIG enough that they may have given up and have already expanded to 18, but I suppose they'd still go to 19 if ND agreed. It's the only move that would remotely make sense. They aren't a cultural fit for SEC, and the Big XII while better than ACC doesn't pay enough (in addition to similarly being a bad cultural fit).

I took a look and their next years' schedule looks similarly shitty. Better in 2027, could be salty in 2028.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Drew said:

yes? what's your point?

Because people keep blaming that loss on Texas being on the outside looking in?

 

13 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Why do you need us to do your homework for you?

You can easily find the week 2 AP and Coaches Polls on the internet. 

It’s not for me. It’s for everyone that seems to have forgotten it.

I know that Texas was still top10

 

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Posted
33 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

this is exactly what I was mentioning earlier in the thread. Pay attention to how the bobbleheads in media start framing the playoff discussion. This is good for Texas. 

same, this is considered a warning shot to the committee

kirk is just repeating what a lot of us and what im seeing from bama fans. 

you fuck us, you're setting precedent here 

id fully expect the ADs to put out the 

"we're reorganizing schedules to match the 9 season SEC schedule" , push to '35 or outright cancel these games , and fill our schedule with Rice 

Posted
2 minutes ago, BluTechsan said:

Because people keep blaming that loss on Texas being on the outside looking in?

So if we had played a middling P4 team instead are you claiming that a 10-2 Texas team wouldn't be in?  We're absolutely being punished for scheduling that game.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

same, this is considered a warning shot to the committee

kirk is just repeating what a lot of us and what im seeing from bama fans. 

you fuck us, you're setting precedent here 

id fully expect the ADs to put out the 

"we're reorganizing schedules to match the 9 season SEC schedule" , push to '35 or outright cancel these games , and fill our schedule with Rice 

I want some ADs to be petty about it too. “Since the CFP committee has changed their mind about marquee OOC opponents and only cares about W/L record, we will be adjusting our future schedules accordingly” 

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Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

I want some ADs to be petty about it too. “Since the CFP committee has changed their mind about marquee OOC opponents and only cares about W/L record, we will be adjusting our future schedules accordingly” 

i like it 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

i like it 

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The Disney and Fox execs would start shitting their pants immediately too 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

I'm out of context, but ranked by who?  CFP rankings didn't come out until 11/4.  We had already lost to OSU and FL, but had beaten OU and Vandy and were ranked 10 heading into the UGA game.

We were unranked against OU, which is a joke. After OU lost to an unranked Texas and then lost to Ole Miss they were still ranked. Total horseshit.

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Posted
15 minutes ago, BluTechsan said:

Because people keep blaming that loss on Texas being on the outside looking in?

 

It’s not for me. It’s for everyone that seems to have forgotten it.

I know that Texas was still top10

 

Yes or no question: If Texas played Louisiana Tech in week 1 and came away with a victory, would they be in the playoffs?

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Posted
16 minutes ago, BluTechsan said:

Because people keep blaming that loss on Texas being on the outside looking in?

 

It’s not for me. It’s for everyone that seems to have forgotten it.

I know that Texas was still top10

 

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Whats gonna be funny is when all these teams schedule dogshit opponents and then still don’t make the playoffs, that’s surely hugely good for fans and donors and alums. No playoff and you are watching your team play Rutgers as your big OOC matchup. I don’t see the downside. 
 

The playoff was designed by people who don’t like college football and it keeps making the game worse in new ways. 

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Posted

We should just be independent. Schedule who we want and not have a schedule where the fans don’t even have a fucking home game for an entire month. Fuck that shit. Schedule who we want. Go independent. Stop trying to make “three losses happen” because it will not. I get Steve is politicking but he should have had his team ready for Florida after a fucking bye week. He knows it. Threatening to cancel Ohio State next year looks like we cannot beat this team in the regular season but let us in the playoffs so they can stomp our ass then. Idk?🤷🏻‍♀️ 

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The convenient thing everyone is forgetting is that not all bad losses are built equal. Texas played Florida who is stacked with 5 star caliber talent, everyone is acting like we lost to El Paso. Florida is not the same as losing to South Carolina, Baylor, or FSU. They have an actual intimidating home environment and legitimate history/previous success to their name. Kind of the same reason that LSU was able to keep in it with OU, had that game been at Baton Rouge, OU wouldve lost. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Whats gonna be funny is when all these teams schedule dogshit opponents and then still don’t make the playoffs, that’s surely hugely good for fans and donors and alums. No playoff and you are watching your team play Rutgers as your big OOC matchup. I don’t see the downside. 
 

The playoff was designed by people who don’t like college football and it keeps making the game worse in new ways. 

The committee should stick to what they weee telling everyone in the summer about marquee OOC opponents. If these all get cancelled, you can blame them 

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Posted
1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Whats gonna be funny is when all these teams schedule dogshit opponents and then still don’t make the playoffs, that’s surely hugely good for fans and donors and alums. No playoff and you are watching your team play Rutgers as your big OOC matchup. I don’t see the downside. 
 

The playoff was designed by people who don’t like college football and it keeps making the game worse in new ways. 

I don't disagree with your doom scenario (after all, having a shitty home slate + no post season would be terrible for fans and support). But I gotta push back on the rest of your comment. 

We lost three games and are still in the race. UVA, BYU, and Duke have a shot. Multiple SEC and B1G teams are locks for big games in the CFP. That is great for the sport as a whole. If this was 2011, our season would have been on life support after the OSU loss. It would have been completely dead after losing to Florida. So many more fans are still engaged in December, it's amazing. 

And there are certainly negative side effects too, which you have pointed out. But I think the CFP is a net-positive for the sport.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

We should just be independent. Schedule who we want and not have a schedule where the fans don’t even have a fucking home game for an entire month. Fuck that shit. Schedule who we want. Go independent. Stop trying to make “three losses happen” because it will not. I get Steve is politicking but he should have had his team ready for Florida after a fucking bye week. He knows it. Threatening to cancel Ohio State next year looks like we cannot beat this team in the regular season but let us in the playoffs so they can stomp our ass then. Idk?🤷🏻‍♀️ 

You're the female Hagbard Celine. 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

3 Losses is not ever going to happen. 

Ill take that bet. WE had a 2 loss team in the NC game, when they only selected 2 teams at the time. 12 team model is all of 2 years old and people are pretending there are long lasting precedents to this system. 

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The problem right now with 12 is the auto-bids. You need 16 for that to make sense. Right now the top 4 conference champs and best G5 champ are auto bids. That only leaves 7 at large spots and is problem when you have the logjam we have right now. 

I mean, even when they expand to 16 there will still be hand-wringing over the 16th team, but debating the last team in is the case for any number of participants. People lose their minds over the 68th team in the freaking basketball tournament and those teams have no shot at winning it all. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

I am not sure how to take this. 

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Take as don't be delusional like he is. We're not going independent. We hitched our wagon to the SEC. If people want to cut out OOC marquee games then fine but a steady diet of worthless indy scheduling like Notre Dame, no thanks. 

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Posted (edited)

I want Texas to get in, Notre Dame to get pushed out, Texas players get healthy over the next few weeks while waiting for its playoff game, Texas wins the national championship, and six years from now there is some inconclusive evidence that Texas paid off certain members of the committee, each of whom has subsequently died in "accidents." 

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