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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The only way we’re getting in is if Helobious comes to this thread without being pinged and declares with certainty that we’re not getting in 

We may need Helobious and Greenspoint in a tag team effort, to pull this out and kind of doubtful even then.

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7 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

So if Duke wins, both Miami and ND get in because they have 2 losses as opposed to our 3 losses? 

Duke winning has no bearing on us, Miami, or ND. It’s either JMU or Duke for the 12 seed in that case

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2 hours ago, Texasborn91 said:

They should have a shot, but they shouldn’t have an auto bid. If a badass team comes along they will have needed to have a good non conf schedule and earn it as an at large bid

Fair. So long as no undefeated teams get left out again I am alright. 2017 UCF deserves to get blown out by the big boys like any basketball mid major.

If we get one major G5 upset every decade in the playoffs I say it was worth it. 

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8 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

Duke winning has no bearing on us, Miami, or ND. It’s either JMU or Duke for the 12 seed in that case

I thought Duke doesn't get an auto bid because of their ranking. JMU gets in instead as one of the top 5 conference champs. Then the committee may choose to let Miami in instead so they don't leave ACC out completely. 

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8 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

Duke winning has no bearing on us, Miami, or ND. It’s either JMU or Duke for the 12 seed in that case

It can help Miami. The committee was going to be wary of letting in two ACC teams. This lets them drop the autobid for ACC champ and give an ACC spot to Miami. 

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19 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

So if Duke wins, both Miami and ND get in because they have 2 losses as opposed to our 3 losses? 

Duke winning the ACC tells you exactly why ND and Miami's SOS are in the 40's

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6 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

I thought Duke doesn't get an auto bid because of their ranking. JMU gets in instead as one of the top 5 conference champs. Then the committee may choose to let Miami in instead so they don't leave ACC out completely. 

 

4 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It can help Miami. The committee was going to be wary of letting in two ACC teams. This lets them drop the autobid for ACC champ and give an ACC spot to Miami. 

That would still require Miami getting into the top 10 so as to receive an at-large. The committee’s reasoning for doing so couldn’t really be determined either way.

One of Duke, UVA, or JMU is getting in regardless.

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Just now, dcar00 said:

Duke winning the ACC tells you exactly why ND and Miami's SOS are in the 40's

What is this SOS you speak of? /playoff committee probably.

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3 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

 

That would still require Miami getting into the top 10 so as to receive an at-large. The committee’s reasoning for doing so couldn’t really be determined either way.

One of Duke, UVA, or JMU is getting in regardless.

Duke and UVA have no path to getting in if Duke wins. It's JMU and (perhaps Miami).

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2 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Duke and UVA have no path to getting in if Duke wins. It's JMU and (perhaps Miami).

One of Duke, UVA, or JMU will get in. If Duke wins it’s them or JMU, if UVA wins it’s UVA.

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Not if they aren't ranked. See: Duke.

The committee will rank until they have gotten to the fifth highest conference champ, even if that team falls outside the top 25.

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Dropping Bama seems to solve a lot:

- No forcing of ND/Miami question

- Avoids 1st round rematches and first round intra-conference games 

The big problem is the “punishing for a CCG.” Bama made it easier by getting smoked. 

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2 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

One of Duke, UVA, or JMU will get in. If Duke wins it’s them or JMU, if UVA wins is UVA.

The committee will rank until they have gotten to the fifth highest conference champ, even if that team falls outside the top 25.

Duke is not going to jump JMU if both win. Why do you keep insisting on either Duke/UVA/JMU? Duke with their 5 losses will not be in the top 25 even if they win the ACC.

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Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

Dropping Bama seems to solve a lot:

- No forcing of ND/Miami question

- Avoids 1st round rematches and first round intra-conference games 

The big problem is the “punishing for a CCG.” Bama made it easier by getting smoked. 

Texas moves to #9, Miami to #10, Bama to #12, ND to #11, easy

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6 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yeah the committee will make Miami 10 and bama 11. 12 is JMU/Tulane

Tulane is already in as the 4th highest conference champion. It will be JMU/Duke for the 5th conference champion spot. Most assuredly the #11 and 12 seeds. 

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4 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

One of Duke, UVA, or JMU will get in. If Duke wins it’s them or JMU, if UVA wins it’s UVA.

The committee will rank until they have gotten to the fifth highest conference champ, even if that team falls outside the top 25.

If Duke gets in, the internets meltdown tomorrow afternoon.  

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1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The big problem is the “punishing for a CCG.” Bama made it easier by getting smoked. 

It's not getting punished for losing a game - it's getting punished for looking like roadkill and having negative rushing yards right before the playoff

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4 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Duke is not going to jump JMU if both win. Why do you keep insisting on either Duke/UVA/JMU? Duke with their 5 losses will not be in the top 25 even if they win the ACC.

Probably right. I’m just saying it’s not certain that JMU is in. It will be either them or Duke for the last spot and the UVA/Duke result does not open a spot for Miami, ND, or Texas.

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35 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

So if Duke wins, both Miami and ND get in because they have 2 losses as opposed to our 3 losses? 

I think Miami has to be out.  How do you put a team in when their conference Champion isnt even in. 

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Just now, chemHORN said:

I think Miami has to be out.  How do you put a team in when their conference Champion isnt even in. 

Yeah, that would be the logical thing to do, but then again how do you justify ND above Miami and Texas. The committee has a hard on for certain teams.

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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

So much is about to change based on what happens tomorrow. SEC CCG is gone if Bama is out. Getting rid of G5 autobid. More teams. 

anyone with a SOS higher than 50 needs to be undefeated or else Ws Ls are thrown out 

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Ohio State may be a paper tiger, but we still don't know because between them and Indiana the only legit team played combined was Indiana beating Oregon. Ohio State only playing 2 playoff good defenses all year and only scoring a combined 27 points total in 2 games looks bad on them. 

I think Georgia runs away with the national title winning every game they play by double digits. 

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7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

So much is about to change based on what happens tomorrow. SEC CCG is gone if Bama is out. Getting rid of G5 autobid. More teams. 

Lil dramatic. They got humiliated. It wouldn’t be some seismic catalyst if there are consequences for it. 

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