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2 hours ago, F250 said:

So Gooners are Malakas?

 

 

 

2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Take my rep, one of my favorite ever videos. 

 

2 hours ago, F250 said:

This video cracks me up every time I watch it. 


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And so Nike’s Pump Man was born…..

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11 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Truly the "free" pornography world we live in will have unintended and horrific consequences above and beyond what we've already seen.


More women who are willing to experiment with other women? Because that's what I've noticed in the 30 years since porn became widely available on the internet.

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I don’t think it was technically gooning, but a ton of Gen-X developed calluses from self pleasuring to Kelly LeBrock in WS as teens and that movie is PG-13.

 

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13 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

They aren’t nihilists, they have found a purpose and meaning: jacking off a whole lot in pursuit of a mental high. It’s just that the meaning they’ve settled on is disordered and crowds out alternate sources of meaning.

One of my hottest takes is that all the bad stuff we used to call “vices,” like porn, drugs, booze, gambling, smoking, and promiscuity, are actually bad. That doesn’t mean all bad things need to be banned and brutally suppressed but removing all frictions and stigma and pretending they are value neutral or maybe good is stupid. The harm also falls disproportionately on those least equipped socially, intellectually, or temperamentally to moderate themselves. 
 

Porn should be legal, but making you ask for it at a gas station or venture out to a skeezy city limits store and park around back to hide your car was a good friction to maintain.

Smoking is legal but it’s a good social friction to make it costly and to tightly clamp down on where you can do it. It’s good to make it socially shameful.

Gambling shouldn’t be criminalized but you should have to go to a reservation or use a shady bookie or some shit. That is a good social friction; it’s not good to be able to make in-game prop bets tied to a credit card. 
 

Many such cases. 

 

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

I don’t think it was technically gooning, but a ton of Gen-X developed calluses from self pleasuring to Kelly LeBrock in WS as teens and that movie is PG-13.

 


Something, something friction… something, something calluses.

There’s a joke in there somehow.

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18 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

all the wires that make up the male human id are all crisscrossed into a spaghetti bowl of sadness served in a buddy curated experience in your tricked out beat-off dungeon.

Aaaaaaaaaaand the Surly football board motto search is offically over. 

 

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16 hours ago, immamac said:

people go out to have a beer or two with their friends over the course of 3 hours and a "game" the mildly care about and are just talking about other bullshit the whole time. They don't wanna meet new people, meet other fans for their team, talk about the game, none of that.

In my middle age I'm very much enjoying this dynamic. 

I can go sit at a sport bar near my house, drink my beer, watch a bit of a game, and enjoy it in peace without having to small talk the cretins around me. 

At my age and our current social and political climate I don't want to get to know many more people. I've had my party days, raised my kids, have my family and friends. 

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24 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

In my middle age I'm very much enjoying this dynamic. 

I can go sit at a sport bar near my house, drink my beer, watch a bit of a game, and enjoy it in peace without having to small talk the cretins around me. 

At my age and our current social and political climate I don't want to get to know many more people. I've had my party days, raised my kids, have my family and friends. 

Hold old is middle age now?

I thought I was middle aged in my early 40’s….. 

Hold old are you livin’ man?

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7 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Hold old is middle age now?

I thought I was middle aged in my early 40’s….. 

Hold old are you livin’ man?

I'm being a bit optimistic in my assessment. 

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32 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

In my middle age I'm very much enjoying this dynamic. 

I can go sit at a sport bar near my house, drink my beer, watch a bit of a game, and enjoy it in peace without having to small talk the cretins around me. 

At my age and our current social and political climate I don't want to get to know many more people. I've had my party days, raised my kids, have my family and friends. 

Yeah, and I'm saying going to a bar with people like you sucks for me. You don't even want to get excited about the longhorns when there is a ton of hype. I want to watch with people who are very into it, as in that's the entire reason I want to go. I would go to every away game if my family situation would allow me to and its a non issue. Unfortunately I'm tied to shit like my wife scheduling my kids birthday party on the morning of November 15th when his birthday is the 19th and the Arkansas tailgate would have been a fine birthday party for him since he wanted a Longhorn football themed birthday anyway. 

There is a small sized contingent of people like me who are far outsized by people like you and that's fine. 

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8 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


More women who are willing to experiment with other women? Because that's what I've noticed in the 30 years since porn became widely available on the internet.

Sure. But don't forget to include the changing social dynamics in this country that has also encouraged/allowed this, specifically more social acceptance of Gay/Lesbian relationships, more acceptance and LEGAL protections for women's independence (jobs, single life choices, kids not required), and the continued shrinking of the acceptable male dating/partner pool. 

There's a LOT going on that have allowed/pushed/created the environment for women to get down with other women. 

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11 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

If my wife found out half the shit I was looking at on some of these porn sites, she’d divorce me.

Sounds like a great escape plan should it ever become necessary.  "Whoops, sorry I was looking at this stuff on your computer..."

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The only times I don’t finish what I started, so to speak, is when I just run out of gas before I get there.  But invariably I’ll pick up where I left off sooner or later, and cross the goal line.

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13 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


More women who are willing to experiment with other women? Because that's what I've noticed in the 30 years since porn became widely available on the internet.

And I had no idea incest was so rampant.  Seems to be everywhere.  Who knew?

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5 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

The only times I don’t finish what I started, so to speak, is when I just run out of gas before I get there.  But invariably I’ll pick up where I left off sooner or later, and cross the goal line.

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4 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

And I had no idea incest was so rampant.  Seems to be everywhere.  Who knew?

Don't get me started on all the poor things getting stuck in dryers and washing machines.  So dangerous, apparently. 

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5 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Sure. But don't forget to include the changing social dynamics in this country that has also encouraged/allowed this, specifically more social acceptance of Gay/Lesbian relationships, more acceptance and LEGAL protections for women's independence (jobs, single life choices, kids not required), and the continued shrinking of the acceptable male dating/partner pool. 

There's a LOT going on that have allowed/pushed/created the environment for women to get down with other women. 
 

 


I agree with the premise that increasing social acceptance of same sex partners plays into women schtooping one another openly and potentially more frequently. Quick googling shows tripling of bisexuality since the 90’s and doubling in the last 10-15 years. But I maintain maybe it’s always been there though. Girls at boarding schools or nuns fucked. A girl much like a man is only as loyal as her options. But in the past these women would have still identified as straight bc society said that was the only acceptable option. Or there’s just more opportunity in the world now as more women living apart from family in adulthood has allowed this / they’re not getting locked down young into hetero marriages with children before they’re brains fully develop in their 20’s.
 

But I kind of reject the idea of women turning to women because of the lack of acceptable men. Women empowerment has enabled a more have and have-not stratification of dudes getting down with chicks in a feedback loop that has created more undesirable men that then incentivizes more female selection … so on and so forth. The girls who like to fuck guys still do …they are just fucking the same guy. And super happy alpha bro isn’t getting locked up by his high school sweetheart anymore because she slobs his knob on the reg. He gets to sample all the wears bc girls are likelier to give it up in an effort to secure his loyalty. So their incentives for him to settle down are actually backfire as he’s a buyer in a market where everyone is selling and driving down the price. 

Or are you saying that in the past these women ending up with women would have likely been with a man, but because these guys are no longer employed and total weirdos that said women just remain in their same sex relationships? Because I don’t think that’s happening. I think it’s just creating disaffected men at the bottom and women towards the top who end up alone.

 

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7 hours ago, Incredulity said:

I did.  
 

And to the freaking lingerie section of the god damn Sears catalog.  Testosterone is a hell of a thing.

Sears catalog man…. Grew up with that thing, dreaming of the best toys for Christmas in my earliest years then migrating to the playtex bra pics as a 11 and 12 year old. Sigh. RIP sears catalog.

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19 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

 


I agree with the premise that increasing social acceptance of same sex partners plays into women schtooping one another openly and potentially more frequently. Quick googling shows tripling of bisexuality since the 90’s and doubling in the last 10-15 years. But I maintain maybe it’s always been there though. Girls at boarding schools or nuns fucked. A girl much like a man is only as loyal as her options. But in the past these women would have still identified as straight bc society said that was the only acceptable option. Or there’s just more opportunity in the world now as more women living apart from family in adulthood has allowed this / they’re not getting locked down young into hetero marriages with children before they’re brains fully develop in their 20’s.
 

But I kind of reject the idea of women turning to women because of the lack of acceptable men. Women empowerment has enabled a more have and have-not stratification of dudes getting down with chicks in a feedback loop that has created more undesirable men that then incentivizes more female selection … so on and so forth. The girls who like to fuck guys still do …they are just fucking the same guy. And super happy alpha bro isn’t getting locked up by his high school sweetheart anymore because she slobs his knob on the reg. He gets to sample all the wears bc girls are likelier to give it up in an effort to secure his loyalty. So their incentives for him to settle down are actually backfire as he’s a buyer in a market where everyone is selling and driving down the price. 

Or are you saying that in the past these women ending up with women would have likely been with a man, but because these guys are no longer employed and total weirdos that said women just remain in their same sex relationships? Because I don’t think that’s happening. I think it’s just creating disaffected men at the bottom and women towards the top who end up alone.

 

It's all of it. In the past, were here women who liked other women, or were bisexual, that would have been interested in exploring that if society didn't fucking punish that kind of behavior aggressively? Absolutely. In the past those women kept that shit to themselves, at least more often than now, because there was a legit chance they could end up in an insane asylum if they got caught. At the very least ostracized from friends and family for being heretical sinners. It's not just that they'd have been "identified" as straight, they'd be pretending to be straight for their own survival, and all that it entails. Same as gay men. Sure, it's always existed. But not it's not punished by the literal laws of society. 

And because society has become more open and accepting of same sex relationships, guess what, both sexes now have a theoretically larger pool of people from which to choose, at least if they're comfortable with both sexes. Personally, I'm not. But I'm not every person on the planet. You can "reject" the idea of women choosing women because they think men suck all you want, but there's an increasing drumbeat of those stories being told. In the past, women who just got the shit beaten out of them were almost legally forced to stay in those marriages. Now? Plenty of women who say "fuck me, I'm done" and guess what, they can peace out and find a relationship with someone they feel safer with, regardless of gender. Sure, women who like dick still get dick. And maybe they get married, but maybe they don't because that's no longer a required societal structure anymore. It all adds up. 

And that's before you even factor that women are going to college at greater levels than men these days, and there's a growing segment of incels and shit. Maybe some of those women at the top end up alone. Maybe they choose women. It all adds up into a not statistically insignificant number. 

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26 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

A girl much like a man is only as loyal as her options. 

I don't know about that one.   Most women, let's say any of them between a 3 and 10 on a scale of 10, can walk into any sizable gathering and ask "Who wants to fuck me?" and have a lot of options to choose from.  Any woman who is taking even the bare minimum of care for herself has guys pestering her for sex all the damn time, and that includes your wife/girlfriend.   The vast majority of men have to work, at least a little bit, to get laid.  Women just have to go out in public, and maybe, if they're not at least moderately attractive, take a shower first.  If a woman is loyal to her partner, it's because she actively chooses to be on a daily basis.   The power dynamic that used to hold things in balance (only men could earn a living and provide financially) is not only gone, it's reversing.  This is why you have shit like incels and gooners.  They're the guys who can't navigate a world where you actually have to be enjoyable to be around to have a sexual partner.  Young Gen Z guys, and those of the following generation, are going to spend their entire adulthood in a world where women make more money than they do, hold the majority of the power positions in the workplace, and still own 100% of the pussy.  They've got their work cut out for them.

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9 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

The power dynamic that used to hold things in balance (only men could earn a living and provide financially) is not only gone, it's reversing.  This is why you have shit like incels and gooners.  They're the guys who can't navigate a world where you actually have to be enjoyable to be around to have a sexual partner.  Young Gen Z guys, and those of the following generation, are going to spend their entire adulthood in a world where women make more money than they do, hold the majority of the power positions in the workplace, and still own 100% of the pussy.  They've got their work cut out for them.

This is the key.

And while we can and should put plenty of blame on Gen Z men and such (seriously, PLENTY), we're also accelerating a system designed to fuck them over when it comes to creating the opportunities for having a successful life (which translates to "is attractive to a potential female mate").  Hell, success begets confidence which begets social skills which begets desirability.

As a society, it is strongly in our collective interest to offer men a pathway to a reasonably dignified and successful life, meaning an actual career and future.  Instead, we're doing just the opposite politically, economically, and culturally.  So in a lot of ways, what else should we fucking expect?

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14 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

As a society, it is strongly in our collective interest to offer men a pathway to a reasonably dignified and successful life, meaning an actual career and future.  Instead, we're doing just the opposite politically, economically, and culturally.  So in a lot of ways, what else should we fucking expect?

Sounds like we are going to have to increase immigration to bring in foreign men to do the jobs that American men won't do.

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9 hours ago, immamac said:

Yeah, and I'm saying going to a bar with people like you sucks for me. You don't even want to get excited about the longhorns when there is a ton of hype. I want to watch with people who are very into it, as in that's the entire reason I want to go. I would go to every away game if my family situation would allow me to and its a non issue. Unfortunately I'm tied to shit like my wife scheduling my kids birthday party on the morning of November 15th when his birthday is the 19th and the Arkansas tailgate would have been a fine birthday party for him since he wanted a Longhorn football themed birthday anyway. 

There is a small sized contingent of people like me who are far outsized by people like you and that's fine. 

I don't know how old you are, but I was a lot like you when I was younger. Even into my mid to late 30s. 

 

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Why do I care?

They're doing what they want and it's pretty much a victimless crime, as long as the porn actors are of age.

There's a lot of choices I make in life that aren't wrong or right, they're just mine.  That's how I view these folks.  A lot of shit out there stopped making sense to me a long fucking time ago with regard to decency or if it was a "good choice."  Not my problem until they infringe upon the liberty of another.

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26 minutes ago, Iceman said:

They're doing what they want and it's pretty much a victimless crime, as long as the porn actors are of age.

Are they “of age” if they didn’t exist until I fed Grok a few prompts?  

Because I will make money off of these losers.

26 minutes ago, Iceman said:

There's a lot of choices I make in life that aren't wrong or right, they're just mine.  That's how I view these folks.

Widely available porn on computers/devices has been around since the early 90s on BBSes.  It took off with CD-ROMs and then exploded with the internet.  But at the end of the day, those who wanted it could get it easily and mostly anonymously.  

What’s changed, as others have said, is the idiots are able to seek each other out and reinforce each other’s dumbass views on sex and women rather than keep that shit to themselves and that is a problem, but at least they aren’t adding to the gene pool I guess.

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37 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Aren't you the dude that has been paying 20 something women to date? What differences have you encountered in the young group?

Butt sex is a lot more common than the nineties. 

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28 minutes ago, F250 said:

Butt sex is a lot more common than the nineties. 

Yeah but usually have to pay at least $100 extra for it….[F250 pictured below amongst the 20 somethings]

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9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Are they “of age” if they didn’t exist until I fed Grok a few prompts?  

Because I will make money off of these losers.

Widely available porn on computers/devices has been around since the early 90s on BBSes.  It took off with CD-ROMs and then exploded with the internet.  But at the end of the day, those who wanted it could get it easily and mostly anonymously.  

What’s changed, as others have said, is the idiots are able to seek each other out and reinforce each other’s dumbass views on sex and women rather than keep that shit to themselves and that is a problem, but at least they aren’t adding to the gene pool I guess.

I've mentioned this guy a number of times over the years, I had an employee in the late 90s that was a proto-incel. His name was Tim. Tim used to get frustrated with women not giving him any attention. I started advising him on basic stuff like hygiene and ironing your clothes plus setting realistic expectations. 

Once Tim starts to clean up his look he started hanging out with this dude from work named Rusty. Well, Rusty was a 90's proto-gooner with his own jerk dungeon. Rusty was the kind of guy who blew his paycheck at the strip club, Hooters and the porn shop. 

After some time Tim tells me he isn't hanging out with Rusty anymore. It was too expensive and he realized that the strippers and waitresses were hustling him.

Plus he described Rusty's fap dungeon. It was a spare bedroom with a 42 inch TV and sofa in the middle of the room. Two of the walls were filled with bookshelves but instead of books it was porn. A table next the sofa had a stack of porn magazines. 

Apparently, Rusty brought Tim into the room to drink some beer and watch porn on the couch. Tim got creeped out after a few minutes in and bailed. 

My only questions for Tim were "Did you sit on the couch and was it a fabric couch?"

The answer was yes but Tim didn't understand why I was asking. I didn't explain and just had a look like this.

Season 11 Hbo GIF by Curb Your Enthusiasm

 

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3 minutes ago, F250 said:

I've mentioned this guy a number of times over the years, I had an employee in the late 90s that was a proto-incel. His name was Tim. Tim used to get frustrated with women not giving him any attention. I started advising him on basic stuff like hygiene and ironing your clothes plus setting realistic expectations. 

While she very briefly mentions political affiliation (so anybody that’s easily offended, skip it) she talks about incels and how ugly dudes just need to be clean and kind of be interesting and women will fuck them.  

She jokes about something like “if you’re ugly, go take up kayaking, some woman will bang you” or “go to a chess tournament and figure it out” and points out it’s harder for ugly women to get laid.

And it’s true.  How many ugly dudes do we know that are swinging well above their weight class?  They are clean and have a job.

 

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1 hour ago, Hermanator said:

I don't know how old you are, but I was a lot like you when I was younger. Even into my mid to late 30s. 

 

36. The problem isn't you - it's that people in their 20s are acting this way. I get the I just wanna go somewhere and eat alone thing (insert Joe Flacco press question about eating dinner alone). I enjoy that sometimes as well.

I don't enjoy that or want that on a CFB Saturday. I also don't ever see a future where CFB doesn't dominate my fall Saturdays...ever. It's a significant part of my identity. 

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39 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

While she very briefly mentions political affiliation (so anybody that’s easily offended, skip it) she talks about incels and how ugly dudes just need to be clean and kind of be interesting and women will fuck them.  

She jokes about something like “if you’re ugly, go take up kayaking, some woman will bang you” or “go to a chess tournament and figure it out” and points out it’s harder for ugly women to get laid.

And it’s true.  How many ugly dudes do we know that are swinging well above their weight class?  They are clean and have a job.

 

Yep. This dude wasn't even doing the basics. He would wear clothes that were so wrinkled it looked like someone would compress all his shirts into a one-inch triangle after they were taken out of the washer. His clothes rarely matched and looked like he inherited them from his grandpa. He had a unibrow that once he took care of added 2 points to his look. Unfortunately, he suffered from early male pattern baldness and let the sides grow out, and it was real curly on the sides so it kinda looked like Krusty the Clown hair. I convinced him to buzz it, and it greatly improved his look as well as get his teeth whitened, it was Mack Brown butter teeth bad. Once he learned to work with what he was born with, his looks improved. After that, it was just a matter of lowering his expectations. But once he lowered his expectations, he thrived and landed a girlfriend who he would bang daily on his lunch breaks, I know because he would talk about it non-stop afterward. They were both in the same league, and he was happy, and she was happy. I never encouraged him to change his interests which were reading fantasy and sci-fi novels, I figured he would find someone with similar interests in the nerd-sphere. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

Yeah but usually have to pay at least $100 extra for it….[F250 pictured below amongst the 20 somethings]

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No and No.

The only thing that threw me off was the expectation of anilingus, which wasn't an unusual thing for me, so no biggie. Back in the day it was more of a fetish thing as opposed to just being expected these days. 

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7 minutes ago, F250 said:

No and No.

The only thing that threw me off was the expectation of anilingus, which wasn't an unusual thing for me, so no biggie. Back in the day it was more of a fetish thing as opposed to just being expected these days. 


I’m confused.

Are you saying that you don’t have to pay extra for Greek? 

Thats seriously included with the price of admission?

But that’s only with monthly sugar baby rates right? You don’t get that on a per night basis.

Kind of like you don’t pay hotel taxes if you stay in a room for a month?

Am I understanding the situation correctly?

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1 minute ago, Dnaguy said:


I’m confused.

Are you saying that you don’t have to pay extra for Greek? 

Thats seriously included with the price of admission?

But that’s only with monthly sugar baby rates right? You don’t get that on a per night basis.

Kind of like you don’t pay hotel taxes if you stay in a room for a month?

Am I understanding the situation correctly?

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I explained this in the thread that shall not be named. Don't be fat, ugly or poor. A little kindness goes a long way, and everything is on the table. 

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1 minute ago, F250 said:

I explained this in the thread that shall not be named. Don't be fat, ugly or poor. A little kindness goes a long way, and everything is on the table. 

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