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Yeah, it's a shit sandwich, but nothing will change unless people like this do something, and the guy on the left, his day in Ukraine is coming as soon as he's old enough.  Along with his dad and uncle probably, if Putin keeps burning through men.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

If anybody was curious about the female brigade in the May 9th parade

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Weird with the skirts over the knees, but not complaining.

Shame all their men are being cooked off in shitty Russian tanks, but I could use a housekeeper with benefits. 

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Remember that pontoon bridge and the carnage?
this guy says he was part of it:
 
IF what he is saying is accurate then Ivan lost ~1500 in this one engagement.

There is some weird stuff in that guy’s thread. Why telegraph some of it to the world? Also kind of doxxing yourself. he also seems way off on the casualty amount and then posting his PayPal was awkward. That said, bully for him if he scouted it out and called it.
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On 5/9/2022 at 7:09 PM, atomheartbevo said:

Putin rails about hating the West, but wants to belong to the West.  Sounds like a lot of football teams that think they are better than they actually are.

 

Again, aggy?

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John Kirby Pentagon pressers are really enjoyable to me these days. White House pressers are just a argumentative shit show that i have no interest in, but this guy handles direct questions and lowers my blood pressure while giving me some interesting info/perspective/news.

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4 minutes ago, 686 said:

This is a good thread on current situation:

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I read that as Russia knows they are about to lose and is desperately trying to find an off-ramp.

Unfortunately for Putin's sake that does not exist. As far as Ukraine is concerned this only ends when all Russians are out of Ukraine - including Donbas and Crimea. 

Putin cannot do that or else he's toast, so he's trying to find a way to get to a ceasefire that Ukraine will never agree to. 

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3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Russian widows marching with photos of their dead .  Edit: and before anybody gets upset, these are dead officers, which means they volunteered for this shit, and they volunteered after 2015, which means that they knew they could be doing barbaric shit in Syria or elsewhere.

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Don't look terribly aggrieved. Going with social media models/actresses getting paid to carry a sign for some dude she's never met. 

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1. Today in 93 Kholodnoyarsk merry harvest near Izyum. Intelligence intercepted a group of Russian special forces, six 200, two 300. And the infantry that covered their advance and accompanied them, the artillery raided the Czech shells. Also 10 pieces in the red.

2. The sky was also cleared of K-52. However, in two days we have minus two cars. People are whole.
 We trust and help the Armed Forces.

 

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It’s stunning how little the Russians care about their dead.  I’ve been checking out a friend’s project about some forts and trails during the 1860s and 1870s in the Dakotas/etc. and even then American soldiers would risk their lives to recover their dead or reinforce their fellow soldiers.  Multiple instances of them going out knowing they might die just to retrieve a body or try to find a missing trooper.  

It could be gruesome with the heavily mutilated bodies and dangerous when the Indians would use wounded troopers as bait for traps, etc.

Meanwhile the Russians are just mozying out, more concerned with loot than their buddies’ bodies.

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Russia, ya done goofed!

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Joint statement by the President of the Republic and Prime Minister of Finland on Finland’s NATO membership

Office of the President of the Republic of Finland
Prime Minister’s Office
Press release 30/2022
12 May 2022

During this spring, an important discussion on Finland’s possible NATO membership has taken place. Time has been needed to let Parliament and the whole society establish their stands on the matter. Time has been needed for close international contacts with NATO and its member countries, as well as with Sweden. We have wanted to give the discussion the space it required.

Now that the moment of decision-making is near, we state our equal views, also for information to the parliamentary groups and parties. NATO membership would strengthen Finland’s security. As a member of NATO, Finland would strengthen the entire defence alliance. Finland must apply for NATO membership without delay. We hope that the national steps still needed to make this decision will be taken rapidly within the next few days.

Sauli Niinistö
President of the Republic of Finland

Sanna Marin
Prime Minister of Finland

 

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5 hours ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Don't look terribly aggrieved. Going with social media models/actresses getting paid to carry a sign for some dude she's never met. 

Naw, I'm pretty sure we saw the chick on the left before. She's real.

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This is a really good article about Russian strategic aviation in the war with some video of a Tu-223M3 firing (likely) obsolescent cruise missiles as the hook. TL;DR they are probably out of their best guided conventional missiles and are using strategic aviation against unsuitable targets.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/we-may-have-our-first-sight-of-a-russian-bomber-launching-missiles-at-ukraine 

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6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

It’s stunning how little the Russians care about their dead.  I’ve been checking out a friend’s project about some forts and trails during the 1860s and 1870s in the Dakotas/etc. and even then American soldiers would risk their lives to recover their dead or reinforce their fellow soldiers.  Multiple instances of them going out knowing they might die just to retrieve a body or try to find a missing trooper.  

It could be gruesome with the heavily mutilated bodies and dangerous when the Indians would use wounded troopers as bait for traps, etc.

Meanwhile the Russians are just mozying out, more concerned with loot than their buddies’ bodies.

A function of training, bad logistics, and the way the war was sold and is going.  Mortuary is a specialty like everything else and given the Russian military’s demonstrated competency in core combat functions, it’s safe to assume that things like mortuary training have only been done on paper only for many years now.  If that’s the case, there may likely have been an order to leave bodies in place— because bringing back a bunch of corpses to a forward operating location if there’s no one to handle them properly or send them back safely becomes a health hazard really quickly.  
 

And of course train cars full of dead bodies are things that can’t be hidden and that will get leaked.  A dead body in a field is just another soldier that’s still out on training somewhere. One more way to control the narrative of a small operation that is going well. 

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11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Fucking Hell

 

I’ve mentioned it before. This is the Russian diplomatic equivalent of vaguebooking about your ex.  It’s something we’re already doing, they already didn’t nuke us, and so we can safely assume they won’t nuke us.  In general, you need to be more frightened of assurances that Russia WON’T make war on you than you need to worry about Russian threats of war. 

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23 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I’ve mentioned it before. This is the Russian diplomatic equivalent of vaguebooking about your ex.  It’s something we’re already doing, they already didn’t nuke us, and so we can safely assume they won’t nuke us.  In general, you need to be more frightened of assurances that Russia WON’T make war on you than you need to worry about Russian threats of war. 

He's not wrong though. It does increase the chances of open conflict between NATO and Russia, because if they invade Finland or Sweden now it's NATO. 

There is no NATO country (save Poland maybe) that wants to invade or start shit with Russia. NATO isn't an economic treaty either. 

I think a true defeat and failure of Russian military campaigns in Ukraine is the most graceful transition away from Putins Russia, but it isn't clear that they are going to be able to hit the reset button without rewriting the constitution as it's so fucked up now from all the sabotage they allowed to happen with Putin in charge. We may just get a less sick, less concerned about legacy Russian who hates everyone just as much after. 

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6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

It’s stunning how little the Russians care about their dead.  I’ve been checking out a friend’s project about some forts and trails during the 1860s and 1870s in the Dakotas/etc. and even then American soldiers would risk their lives to recover their dead or reinforce their fellow soldiers.  Multiple instances of them going out knowing they might die just to retrieve a body or try to find a missing trooper.  

It could be gruesome with the heavily mutilated bodies and dangerous when the Indians would use wounded troopers as bait for traps, etc.

Meanwhile the Russians are just mozying out, more concerned with loot than their buddies’ bodies.

They appear to be a soulless society.  Let them rot in the fields and push up sunflowers.  The more dead, rotting Russians; the better. 

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5 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

They appear to be a soulless society.  Let them rot in the fields and push up sunflowers.  The more dead, rotting Russians; the better. 

I think we are beyond the point of wishing this as it seems like Russia is fucked. I'm honestly hoping for them to withdraw with as few casualties and lives ruined as possible. The quicker they just withdraw across the border the less lives are ruined. Russian society is being held hostage right now, and while they aren't blameless I hope that this is the start of a change for them. While they undergo that change we should exclude them from everything economically except food and basic necessities though. Make your bed and lay in it. 

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39 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

A function of training, bad logistics, and the way the war was sold and is going.  Mortuary is a specialty like everything else and given the Russian military’s demonstrated competency in core combat functions, it’s safe to assume that things like mortuary training have only been done on paper only for many years now.  If that’s the case, there may likely have been an order to leave bodies in place— because bringing back a bunch of corpses to a forward operating location if there’s no one to handle them properly or send them back safely becomes a health hazard really quickly.  
 

And of course train cars full of dead bodies are things that can’t be hidden and that will get leaked.  A dead body in a field is just another soldier that’s still out on training somewhere. One more way to control the narrative of a small operation that is going well. 

I know US combat troops love a good POG joke, but this is one of those things why we have all those rear echelon guys: processing our dead soldiers, getting them to mortuary on base, notifying families, returning bodies home for respectful burial, etc.. this is one of many reasons we spend so much money on the military. 

7 hours ago, MillerEP said:

^Interesting, the Russians are evacuating a town IN Russia.

Much like the Israelis after 1947, one of the less mentioned aspects of this conflict is after the dust settles, Ukraine will likely have one of the best trained and armed military’s in the world, regardless of their NATO status. They are now on a path to be the dominant military force in the Caucuses for decades. 

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think we are beyond the point of wishing this as it seems like Russia is fucked. I'm honestly hoping for them to withdraw with as few casualties and lives ruined as possible. The quicker they just withdraw across the border the less lives are ruined. Russian society is being held hostage right now, and while they aren't blameless I hope that this is the start of a change for them. While they undergo that change we should exclude them from everything economically except food and basic necessities though. Make your bed and lay in it. 

On the other hand:

YARN | I say let them crash. | Airplane! (1980) | Video clips by quotes |  61da0c37 | 紗

Russians in 2022=Nazis WWII.  Kill them all, let God sort them out. 

 

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1 minute ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

On the other hand:

YARN | I say let them crash. | Airplane! (1980) | Video clips by quotes |  61da0c37 | 紗

Russians in 2022=Nazis WWII.  Kill them all, let God sort them out. 

 

Would rather have them go through Hague. We need to set an example that humans and earth in general has evolved and moved beyond the point of accepting barbarian tactics and open murder of civilians in war. 

I'd rather see war crimes punished according to international agreement than more dead soldiers. Being killed and being held responsible are 2 different things. 

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

Would rather have them go through Hague. We need to set an example that humans and earth in general has evolved and moved beyond the point of accepting barbarian tactics and open murder of civilians in war. 

I'd rather see war crimes punished according to international agreement than more dead soldiers. Being killed and being held responsible are 2 different things. 

In a world where this would happen, I agree.  I'd put a good amount of money that no one other that a handful of non-officers/junior officers receive justice.  I'll gladly eat crow, if proven wrong.  But I can almost guaranfuckingtee you not a single general officer or politician gets anymore than a furrowed brow. 

So, if we can't kill them, fuck the rest of 'em. 

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58 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

A function of training, bad logistics, and the way the war was sold and is going.  Mortuary is a specialty like everything else and given the Russian military’s demonstrated competency in core combat functions, it’s safe to assume that things like mortuary training have only been done on paper only for many years now.  If that’s the case, there may likely have been an order to leave bodies in place— because bringing back a bunch of corpses to a forward operating location if there’s no one to handle them properly or send them back safely becomes a health hazard really quickly.  
 

And of course train cars full of dead bodies are things that can’t be hidden and that will get leaked.  A dead body in a field is just another soldier that’s still out on training somewhere. One more way to control the narrative of a small operation that is going well. 

That was a big deal in the winter war.  A lot of purging, a lot of tactics changing, all because the party was humiliated by the shocking number of trains full of bodies. 

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1 minute ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

That was a big deal in the winter war.  A lot of purging, a lot of tactics changing, all because the party was humiliated by the shocking number of trains full of bodies. 

Well they might not have needed to purge again if they hadn't already purged the military in the decade before the Winter War.

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40 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

In a world where this would happen, I agree.  I'd put a good amount of money that no one other that a handful of non-officers/junior officers receive justice.  I'll gladly eat crow, if proven wrong.  But I can almost guaranfuckingtee you not a single general officer or politician gets anymore than a furrowed brow. 

So, if we can't kill them, fuck the rest of 'em. 

I think with the amount of informatiion available on the specifics of Russian forces, (name, rank, personal & weapon serial numbers, hometowns, military history, etc.), the likihood that a Russian war criminal slinks back into his pre war life without consequences is a low probability.

It won't be in the Hague, but justice will be served.

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