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That sounds like some of the conversations I've had with family.  Sorry your spouse lost their pops though.  

I actually miss the days when my mom would visit and would want to tune in for O'Reilly.  He was annoying, but in hindsight fairly harmless compared to what he laid the foundation for.  I know she binges FoxNews now and will frequently call my MAGA/Q cousin in Hays County to discuss.  But they largely leave me out of it.  And I'm fine with it.  Only two times I spoke up was during Covid and then one other slip-up about Herschel Walker being in the same special ed. class as my sister. 

But Fox during the day about Covid was crap, but not outright dangerous.  And she was at work or volunteering anyway.   But she'd tune in at night and just get the batshit crazy and thought Covid-19 was bullshit.  And my fucking cousin was not helping.  Here's my mom in year two of the pandemic, then 75, obese, smoked for 50 years and has to do oxygen regiments every day for breathing wellness, is Hispanic, and gets pneumonia almost every year.  And my cousin has her believing, because of FoxNews and some "do my own research" lunatic on her street, that masking and vaccines are bullshit.  And my mom is fine to travel to Texas to see the family.  I told them all that she can come but she has to get the first shot, mask up at airports, etc.  My cousin fires back, "Well Tucker says blahblahblah, and I think he knows better than you or I."  And I hit back with, "If you had said 'I believe this and that in my heart and mind'.......I'd have respected it more but when you're just quoting people as uniformed as we are in science, that's when you lost me." 

It hit me then, it's not what FoxNews feeds them.  That's almost all media and entertainment, giving the masses what they want.  I think we're hyperbolic a lot about family and friends and Fox on here oftentimes.  What rubs me the wrong way about them is that they replace a part of people that are important to us.  If you're the exact same person just with a layer of Fox talking points added on top, fine.  But somehow Fox erodes a couple of layers from the person we know, and then adds their shit in its place.  That's what stings.  they convince you to strip away part of what makes you, you.  And add in some bullshit.  But they make you comfortable while they're doing it, and convince you that it's the rest of us that need re-programming.

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Fox News is now taking legal action against one of its top producers in an effort to silence her amid the ongoing Dominion lawsuit.

In a Monday complaint filed in the Supreme Court of New York, Fox News alleged that Abby Grossberg, a senior booking producer for Tucker Carlson, has threatened the network with a discrimination lawsuit and, in doing so, has threatened to publicly disclose privileged conversations she had with Fox News lawyers in advance of her own September 2022 deposition in the Dominion defamation case.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-tries-to-silence-top-producer-abby-grossberg-who-threatened-to-reveal-internal-convos?via=twitter_page

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Nothing.  Just a former producer for Tucker who is claiming Fox legal counsel wanted her to take the fall for their voting stories, and tried to intimidate her before her deposition last fall...followed by Fox countersuing her:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/business/media/fox-news-abby-grossberg.html

 

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A Fox News producer who has worked with the hosts Maria Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson filed lawsuits against the company in New York and Delaware on Monday, accusing Fox lawyers of coercing her into giving misleading testimony in the continuing legal battle around the network’s coverage of unfounded claims about election fraud.

The producer, Abby Grossberg, said Fox lawyers had tried to position her and Ms. Bartiromo to take the blame for Fox’s repeated airing of conspiracy theories about Dominion Voting Systems and its supposed role in manipulating the results of the 2020 presidential election. Dominion has filed a $1.6 billion defamation suit against Fox. Ms. Grossberg said the effort to place blame on her and Ms. Bartiromo was rooted in rampant misogyny and discrimination at the network.

 

 

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The new lawsuits, coupled with revelations from the Dominion legal fight, shed light on the rivalries and turf battles that raged at Fox News in the wake of the 2020 election, as network executives fought to hold on to viewers furious at the top-rated network for accurately reporting on President Donald J. Trump’s defeat in Arizona, a crucial swing state.

The lawsuits also include details about Ms. Grossberg’s work life at Fox and on Mr. Carlson’s show. Ms. Grossberg says she and other women endured frank and open sexism from co-workers and superiors at the network, which has been dogged for years by lawsuits and allegations about sexual harassment by Fox executives and stars.


 

 

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The network’s disregard for women, Ms. Grossberg alleged, left her and Ms. Bartiromo understaffed — stretched too thin to properly vet the truthfulness of claims made against Dominion on the air. At times, Ms. Grossberg said, she was the only full-time employee dedicated solely to Ms. Bartiromo’s Sunday-morning show.

In her complaints, Ms. Grossberg accuses lawyers for Fox News of coaching her in “a coercive and intimidating manner” before her September deposition in the Dominion case. The lawyers, she said, gave her the impression that she had to avoid mentioning prominent male executives and on-air talent to protect them from any blame, while putting her own reputation at risk.

 

 

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“That’s what the culture is there,” Ms. Grossberg said in an interview on Monday evening. “They don’t respect or value women.”

On Monday afternoon, Fox filed its own suit against Ms. Grossberg, seeking to enjoin her from filing claims that would shed light on her discussions with the company’s lawyers. A judge has not yet ruled on Fox’s suit. Later on Monday, according to her lawyer, Parisis G. Filippatos, Fox also placed Ms. Grossberg on forced administrative leave.

Ms. Grossberg’s lawsuits were filed in the Southern District of New York and in Superior Court in Delaware, where a pretrial hearing in the Dominion defamation lawsuit is scheduled for Tuesday.

In a statement, a Fox spokeswoman said: “Fox News Media engaged an independent outside counsel to immediately investigate the concerns raised by Ms. Grossberg, which were made following a critical performance review. We will vigorously defend these claims.”

According to the lawsuits filed by Ms. Grossberg, Fox superiors called Ms. Bartiromo a “crazy bitch” who was “menopausal” and asked Ms. Grossberg to cut the host out of coverage discussions.

Last year, she began working as a senior booking producer at “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” On her first full day, according to the lawsuit, Ms. Grossberg discovered that the show’s Manhattan work space was decorated with large pictures of Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, then the House speaker, wearing a plunging swimsuit.

The next day, Justin Wells, Mr. Carlson’s top producer, called Ms. Grossberg into his office, she said, to ask whether Ms. Bartiromo was having a sexual relationship with the House Republican leader, Kevin McCarthy.

Mr. Carlson’s staff joked about Jews and freely deployed a vulgar term for women, according to the complaint.

Later that fall, it said, before an appearance on the show by Tudor Dixon, the Republican candidate for Michigan governor, Mr. Carlson’s staff held a mock debate about whether they would prefer to have sex with Ms. Dixon or her Democratic opponent, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

After Ms. Grossberg complained about harassment from two male producers on the show, she was pulled into a meeting with human resources and told that she was not performing her duties, according to the complaint.

Some text exchanges between Ms. Grossberg and Ms. Bartiromo were released as part of court filings in the Dominion lawsuit. In one instance, Ms. Bartiromo asked Ms. Grossberg if she should have pushed Mr. Trump in an interview on whether he would peacefully transition from the presidency. Ms. Grossberg replied: “To be honest, our audience doesn’t want to hear about a peaceful transition.”

During her deposition, Ms. Grossberg was asked if she cared whether claims made on Ms. Bartiromo’s show were true or false. According to the transcript, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No. Because we didn’t know if they were true or false at that time.” When asked if she felt it was important to correct a false claim made on the air, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No.”

In her lawsuits, Ms. Grossberg said she would have answered those questions differently but had been “coached by and intimidated by” Fox’s lawyers.

Ms. Grossberg claimed that Fox lawyers pressured her to downplay a text exchange between her and David Clark, then the senior vice president of weekend news, regarding a segment with Rudolph W. Giuliani, a lawyer for Mr. Trump. Mr. Clark texted: “There will be no ‘fact checking’ today.”

Ms. Grossberg said she had understood Mr. Clark to mean that Ms. Bartiromo was not to push back against Mr. Giuliani’s false claims of widespread election fraud.

 

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9 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Nothing.  Just a former producer for Tucker who is claiming Fox legal counsel wanted her to take the fall for their voting stories, and tried to intimidate her before her deposition last fall...followed by Fox countersuing her:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/business/media/fox-news-abby-grossberg.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

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“That’s what the culture is there,” Ms. Grossberg said in an interview on Monday evening. “They don’t respect or value women.”

On Monday afternoon, Fox filed its own suit against Ms. Grossberg, seeking to enjoin her from filing claims that would shed light on her discussions with the company’s lawyers. A judge has not yet ruled on Fox’s suit. Later on Monday, according to her lawyer, Parisis G. Filippatos, Fox also placed Ms. Grossberg on forced administrative leave.

Ms. Grossberg’s lawsuits were filed in the Southern District of New York and in Superior Court in Delaware, where a pretrial hearing in the Dominion defamation lawsuit is scheduled for Tuesday.

In a statement, a Fox spokeswoman said: “Fox News Media engaged an independent outside counsel to immediately investigate the concerns raised by Ms. Grossberg, which were made following a critical performance review. We will vigorously defend these claims.”

According to the lawsuits filed by Ms. Grossberg, Fox superiors called Ms. Bartiromo a “crazy bitch” who was “menopausal” and asked Ms. Grossberg to cut the host out of coverage discussions.

Last year, she began working as a senior booking producer at “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” On her first full day, according to the lawsuit, Ms. Grossberg discovered that the show’s Manhattan work space was decorated with large pictures of Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, then the House speaker, wearing a plunging swimsuit.

The next day, Justin Wells, Mr. Carlson’s top producer, called Ms. Grossberg into his office, she said, to ask whether Ms. Bartiromo was having a sexual relationship with the House Republican leader, Kevin McCarthy.

Mr. Carlson’s staff joked about Jews and freely deployed a vulgar term for women, according to the complaint.

Later that fall, it said, before an appearance on the show by Tudor Dixon, the Republican candidate for Michigan governor, Mr. Carlson’s staff held a mock debate about whether they would prefer to have sex with Ms. Dixon or her Democratic opponent, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

After Ms. Grossberg complained about harassment from two male producers on the show, she was pulled into a meeting with human resources and told that she was not performing her duties, according to the complaint.

Some text exchanges between Ms. Grossberg and Ms. Bartiromo were released as part of court filings in the Dominion lawsuit. In one instance, Ms. Bartiromo asked Ms. Grossberg if she should have pushed Mr. Trump in an interview on whether he would peacefully transition from the presidency. Ms. Grossberg replied: “To be honest, our audience doesn’t want to hear about a peaceful transition.”

During her deposition, Ms. Grossberg was asked if she cared whether claims made on Ms. Bartiromo’s show were true or false. According to the transcript, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No. Because we didn’t know if they were true or false at that time.” When asked if she felt it was important to correct a false claim made on the air, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No.”

In her lawsuits, Ms. Grossberg said she would have answered those questions differently but had been “coached by and intimidated by” Fox’s lawyers.

Ms. Grossberg claimed that Fox lawyers pressured her to downplay a text exchange between her and David Clark, then the senior vice president of weekend news, regarding a segment with Rudolph W. Giuliani, a lawyer for Mr. Trump. Mr. Clark texted: “There will be no ‘fact checking’ today.”

Ms. Grossberg said she had understood Mr. Clark to mean that Ms. Bartiromo was not to push back against Mr. Giuliani’s false claims of widespread election fraud.

 


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Reading further about Abby Grossberg, I am SHOCKED to read that FOX news execs forced Abby to spy on Maria Bartiromo and that they thought she was "crazy," "menopausal,"  and "hysterical."

From Twitter:

At Fox News the hose and the nozzle
Are contributing or are they causal?
Fascism is spreading
'Cause Maria is shedding
Or perhaps she is just menopausal
 

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Top 7 stories at 9:00am-EDT on Foxnews.com  

Not a thing about Trump, but some former MLB player's daughter getting into modeling.  Hard hitting news.  

They must be worried.  Which means, I need to ask the important question---is it too early to start smoking Quaaludes?  And how would one go about doing that?  

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4 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Top 7 stories at 9:00am-EDT on Foxnews.com  

Not a thing about Trump, but some former MLB player's daughter getting into modeling.  Hard hitting news.  

They must be worried.  Which means, I need to ask the important question---is it too early to start smoking Quaaludes?  And how would one go about doing that?  

You'll know they are worried when Hunter's laptop is the top story.  Or gas stoves.

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17 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

 

That’s a good idea. Remind us how trivial the basis for Clinton’s impeachment was compared to Trump’s impeachments for a) subverting U.S. foreign policy by extorting Ukraine in an attempt to smear a domestic political opponent and b) inciting an insurrection in an attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. But OMG! Bill Clinton lied about getting a blowjob! That should go over well. 

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