Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted
2 hours ago, Hermanator said:

That's the other 30 percent. The hard-core base thats so racist they don't care if they lose their jobs or if trump is a pedophile. 

About 70 percent also want the deportations and hate the gays and trans, but they want the Epstein files and cheaper groceries more. 

 

2 hours ago, Hermanator said:

All of this was done after last year's election, and elections are the only way to see if they care or not. All we've had is a small off year election early this month and trump got destroyed in it everywhere from New Jersey to a couple of house seats in Mississippi. 

We won't know for sure whether they care or not until next November, provided trump is too incompetent to rig it. It's all reading the tea leaves until then, but if this last election is any indication that 70 percent number is probably close to reality. 

Man I just can't agree with those numbers. We'll need to wait for the midterms to see if there's any movement but I maintain that immigration and transpanic will be the overwheliming winner. I don't think Mamdani winning means much other than NYC is quite liberal and Cuomo is a huge piece of shit.

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted

The GOP could try to muck this up with a bunch of amendments in the Senate so that it has to go back to the House.

That keeps it in the news.

The other option is to just pass it as is and send to Trump for his signature. He can veto it.

That keeps it in the news.

Trump could also sign it, then use the "active investigation" line to withhold some of the information. 

That keeps it in the news.

7 minutes ago, tx ind said:

The big wild card is if the survivors go scorched earth and dish out names if Bondi and Patel do that.

I would expect the House Oversight Committee to continue the slow drip as well. 

The problem is that the Trump administration has acted like there is something they REALLY don't want to see the light of day in there and the implication is that it is very damaging to Trump. 

The correct course of action would have been to double down on the "nothing to see here" memo from Blondie, then throw her under the bus for lying with the "files are on my desk" line.

  • Hook 'Em 2
Posted

It still amazes me that Dems didn't find a way to leak those emails back in October of last year. It would have shifted the whole fucking election and saved the country. 

  • Hook 'Em 2
  • Rage+1 1
Posted

Clay Higgins didn't get the memo, he's probably looking around like 'wtf dudes'

1 minute ago, Dutchrudder said:

It still amazes me that Dems didn't find a way to leak those emails back in October of last year. It would have shifted the whole fucking election and saved the country. 

Yea Right GIF

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

It still amazes me that Dems didn't find a way to leak those emails back in October of last year. It would have shifted the whole fucking election and saved the country. 

They didn't get them until recently.   House Oversight subpoenaed the Epstein estate for documents and whatnot back in August.  

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-oversight-subpoenas-jeffrey-epstein-estate/story?id=124963143

 

Quote

House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer on Monday issued a new subpoena to the estate of Jeffrey Epstein for "documents and communications in its possession, custody, or control in unredacted form," which includes a copy of the alleged "birthday book" compiled for disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday.

"It is our understanding that the Estate of Jeffrey Epstein is in custody and control of documents that may further the Committee's investigation and legislative goals. Further, it is our understanding the Estate is ready and willing to provide these documents to the Committee pursuant to a subpoena," Comer said in a statement on Monday.

The committee requested a delivery of the documents -- which includes banking and financial records -- on or before Sept. 8, 2025. Comer said the panel is "reviewing" potential "mismanagement of the federal government's investigation of Mr. Jeffrey Epstein and Ms. Ghislaine Maxwell."

 

Edited by Francisco 2.0
  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
17 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

Man I just can't agree with those numbers. We'll need to wait for the midterms to see if there's any movement but I maintain that immigration and transpanic will be the overwheliming winner. I don't think Mamdani winning means much other than NYC is quite liberal and Cuomo is a huge piece of shit.

I think immigration is going to be a negative for the GOP. Nobody except the true scumbags like what ICE is doing. Hell Charlotte is organizing pretty hard against Lil Bovino 

  • Hook 'Em 3
Posted
5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

They didn't get them until recently.   House Oversight subpoenaed the Epstein estate for documents and whatnot back in August.  

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-oversight-subpoenas-jeffrey-epstein-estate/story?id=124963143

 

 

That's the House Committee, the US Justice Department likely had those during the Maxwell trial, which spanned the Biden administration. Garland and Friends should have tipped someone off around 2022 about this and started the process to get other reputable sources looking at the info.  I'm guessing, like most things that really matter, it never crossed Garland's mind. Plus he didn't want to harm his image of cosplaying as the arbiter of eternal fairness. At least he caught that dirty dirty Hunter Biden though! 

  • Hook 'Em 2
Posted
6 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

I think immigration is going to be a negative for the GOP. Nobody except the true scumbags like what ICE is doing. Hell Charlotte is organizing pretty hard against Lil Bovino 

Do not mistake the fact that the opposition is numerous as negating the other fact: the supporters of racist cruelty are more numerous.

This is a shitty evil country full of shitty evil people who fucking love being shitty and evil, and we are pot-committed on that point.  Sure, we have at times flirted with turning away from that....but it hurt too much, we couldn't take it, and had to return to the essence of our being: cruelty and hate.

  • Hook 'Em 2
Posted

Remember when "I was for it before I was against it" ended a campaign? I guess "I was against it before I was for it" is different. Gop voters are literally the most gullible people on earth. Even back then all they needed was a stupid soundbite like "flip flopper" to win elections. Now a gop candidate can literally rape children and win over a brown woman who some people thought laughed a little oddly. 

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
43 minutes ago, 'stache said:

 

Man I just can't agree with those numbers. We'll need to wait for the midterms to see if there's any movement but I maintain that immigration and transpanic will be the overwheliming winner. I don't think Mamdani winning means much other than NYC is quite liberal and Cuomo is a huge piece of shit.

They lost a lot more than the NYC mayoral race.  The people spoke.  Not saying it will last or that it means anything for 2026 but this was a resounding fuck you to Trump in many places not nearly as liberal as NYC.  

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
45 minutes ago, The Dog said:

The other option is to just pass it as is and send to Trump for his signature. He can veto it.

The House passed the vote with a veto proof majority. If Thune permits a vote in the Senate, it will be the same. Plus using the veto only to be overruled by both chambers seems really stupid 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

The House passed the vote with a veto proof majority. If Thune permits a vote in the Senate, it will be the same. Plus using the veto only to be overruled by both chambers seems really stupid 

It's all for show anyway.  Whatever comes out is going to be heavily redacted or the whole thing will just be completely withheld despite the bill.  We are at the Charlie Brown running toward the football stage once again. 

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted

He says this is a Democrat problem, so many Democrats on the list. The part that gets me is that Donald J Trump was a Democrat.

 

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
20 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

It's all for show anyway.  Whatever comes out is going to be heavily redacted or the whole thing will just be completely withheld despite the bill.  We are at the Charlie Brown running toward the football stage once again. 

I got an early copy 

IMG_4616.jpeg.9669487ed88e49b0dfe669875da5706e.jpeg

  • Haha 3
  • Rage+1 1
  • Fuck Around and Find Out 1
Posted
1 hour ago, tokamak said:

I think the Dems walked into a trap on this whole deal. Pam Bondi is making Epstein_files.doc on her computer right now that says "The Clintons, Joe Biden, George Soros", and that's what will be released. MAGA world will accept that whole cloth because all human beings ever want is for their biases to be confirmed. Everyone else will cry foul but to what end?

1 hour ago, tx ind said:

The big wild card is if the survivors go scorched earth and dish out names if Bondi and Patel do that.

They can’t shut up the survivors.

This was all done with a wink, knowing the DOJ will prevent their release because it’s an active investigation.

Let’s not forget that Trump will pardon Maxwell, after she’s already gotten a puppy and ended up in Club Fed.  He doesn’t do that unless he has to.

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
1 hour ago, Dutchrudder said:

It still amazes me that Dems didn't find a way to leak those emails back in October of last year. It would have shifted the whole fucking election and saved the country. 

Weren't they under seal?

Posted

So Epstein had a "penis problem" too?

https://tinabrown.substack.com/p/why-trump-doesnt-stand-a-chance-of

Last part: 

Quote

Penis Envy

Tuesday morning on Capitol Hill, bipartisan members of Congress, including Reps. Ro Khanna, Thomas Massie, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, are hosting a cluster of Epstein survivors for a press conference to “discuss next steps.” I talked with one of them yesterday: Rina Oh, a 46-year-old Korean-American artist, who was groomed by Epstein through a pretend interest in her art. Just as Wolff shows us the intellectual manqué side of Epstein, Rina, now the serene-faced mother of two sons, offers unsettling details about the competitive atmosphere inside Epstein’s sexual ménage. When the pedophile magus made clear to the girls that Maxwell was too old to attract him, Ghislaine’s own jealousy became a toxic force. By 2001, Rina believes, Epstein and Maxwell hated each other. “Their relationship was very awful, very strange,” she told me. “I actually didn’t ever suspect that the two of them were having any type of a romantic relationship. I thought she was an associate of his, especially when I saw them fighting. Ghislaine was snickering at him in that British accent and they were throwing insults at each other.” She recalls, “He took me and another girl to the tennis court at Mar-a-Lago, where Ghislaine was playing. He got her attention…and stood behind me and started humping me through my clothes.…He was shrieking and laughing, making fun of Ghislaine.” She believes Epstein bought Ghislaine the Manhattan townhouse, which sold this year for $18 million, to get rid of her, and that Ghislaine ramped up her role as Epstein’s procuress in the 2000s as the only way she could hang on.

Epstein survivor Rina Oh (Credit: Jackie Molloy/The Sunday Times)

Rina is also convinced that Epstein’s core issue was that “he had an extremely deformed penis.…Some people have described it as the shape of an egg. I think it was more of the shape of a lemon, and it was really small when it was fully erect. It was probably like two inches.” She does not believe he was capable of penetrative sex. Strangely, I had this conversation with Rina right after reading on the Drudge Report about new DNA research on blood taken from fabric from the sofa on which Hitler shot himself, suggesting that the Führer had the genetic marker for Kallman syndrome, which can result in the misfortune of a micropenis.

See what I mean? The angles are endless. Yet Trump still believes he can quash this story.

 

Posted
30 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

I got an early copy 

IMG_4616.jpeg.9669487ed88e49b0dfe669875da5706e.jpeg

You omitted the part where Ka$h handwrites on top of the redacted portion:

"Bill Clinton and Joe Biden said 'we should totally go out and rape some little girls,' and then they totally went out and raped little girls.  I saw it all.  Signed, Epstein's mother."

  • Haha 2
Posted
1 hour ago, Dutchrudder said:

It still amazes me that Dems didn't find a way to leak those emails back in October of last year. It would have shifted the whole fucking election and saved the country. 

Think Tim Robinson GIF by NETFLIX

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted

I wouldn't be surprised if this was discussed yesterday as it appears Ken Klippenstein posted it yesterday. If not, prepare to be disappointed. The word "unclassified" is going to stop all but the most mundane shit from getting released.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/national-security-blocks-epstein

“National Security” Blocks Epstein Files Release

Quote

When Congress votes tomorrow on a bill many think will pry loose the Jeffrey Epstein files, one glaring loophole will prevent full transparency. It’s called national security.

Not national security that has anything to do with the national defense or harm to the nation, but the self-serving kind that protects the system from the people by depriving them of information — in this case about Jeffrey Epstein, his 1,000+ victims according to the government, and any accomplices he had. With 89 percent of Americans in agreement that the Justice Department should release all information about Epstein(!), the message is clear: national security is more important than democracy.

Take a look at Congress’ long-shot attempt to force the release of the government’s records, led by Reps. Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie. A seemingly innocuous word appears in the resolution: “unclassified.”

Screenshot of Epstein Files Transparency Act

It is an official word that in theory only exists when it comes to national security matters; that is, that the release of such information could cause “harm” to the national security. (There is, of course, a small chance that some FBI methods relating to intelligence collection might officially qualify as “classified” because the release might expose certain capabilities of the government, but even there, I’d argue that the public has a right to know.)

And yet somehow the word made its way into the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

It’s the wrong word. The bill, after demanding that “No record shall be withheld, delayed or redacted on the basis of embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity, including to any government official, public figure, or foreign dignitary,” goes on to undermine all of that.

The bill says that if the Attorney General “makes a determination that covered information may not be declassified and made available in a manner that protects the national security of the United States, including methods or sources related to national security, the Attorney General shall release an unclassified summary for each of the redacted or withheld classified information.” As in, the Attorney General would get to decide what to release and how to characterize it.

What?

Asked what their rationale was for including the “unclassified” word, neither Khanna nor Massie responded to a request for comment as of publication. It’s entirely possible that they (or their staffers and lawyers) didn’t even think about whether there were alternatives to using the language of national security, but it is more likely that the Justice and FBI liaison officers on the Hill helped craft acceptable language.

Asked by independent journalist Michael Tracey about a similar carveout for “national defense” information in earlier legislation back in September, Massie’s reply was basically that he had no choice.

Massie said:

“You have to put that in there if you’re going to get them to sign it … It’s not something I would sit and say, let’s put that in there. It’s something that, when you run the bill past other colleagues and say, ‘Can you sign this? In fact, can you get every Democrat to sign it?’ It’s one of the things that was felt was necessary to put in there.”

It all sounds procedural, but the resolution consequently falls prey to the national security doctrine that seems to be infecting every corner of American life. And Massie’s explanation gives a sense of how reflexively officials show deference to the logic of national security.

The truth is that the rich and powerful (including the FBI) are ultimately going to be protected from those who are clamoring for change. They aren’t hiding behind national security. They are national security.

The Epstein files released by the House Oversight Committee last week are dwarfed by the Justice Department and FBI’s over 300 gigabytes of information they say they’ve amassed from their review of all of their internal Epstein-related materials. Earlier this year, Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel said that their agencies had completed an “exhaustive review” of its holdings, an effort that reportedly involved over 1,000 FBI agents.

The Justice Department alluded to the sheer size of the effort in a press release, saying:

“Teams of agents, analysts, attorneys, and privacy and civil liberties experts combed through the digital and documentary evidence with the aim of providing as much information as possible to the public while simultaneously protecting victims.”

But they ended up releasing none of it. When pressed to explain why, Kash Patel gave the laughable excuse that “We’re not gonna re-victimize women.”

Though the 50-year-old Freedom of Information Act states that the federal government can’t withhold data from the public merely because it is embarrassing, in a 2021 lawsuit still pending where attorney Dan Novack sued for Epstein records, the FBI rattled off a long list of information it says it has but cannot disclose. That includes:

“Names, Identifying Data and/or Information Provided by Individuals Under an Implied Assurance of Confidentiality”

“Names, Identifying Data and/or Information Provided by Individuals Under an Express Assurance of Confidentiality”

“Names and/or Identifying Information of Third Parties who Provided Information”

“Names and/or Identifying Information of Third Parties of Investigative Interest”

“Names and/or Identifying Information of FBI Special Agents”

“Foreign Government Agency Information Under Implied Confidentiality”

“Dates/Types of Investigations”

“Collection/Analysis of Information”

“Names and/or Identifying Information of Non-FBI Federal Government Personnel

“Name and/or Identifying Information of Local Government Personnel”

“Information Regarding Targets, Dates, and Scope of Surveillance”

The absurd lack of transparency by the government is a big reason for the prevalence of conspiracy theories. When the government is hiding something, people are naturally going to assume the worst.

Congress’ House Oversight Committee has had the most successful effort so far to force transparency, releasing some 20,000 pages of Epstein documents last week, largely records subpoenaed from Epstein’s estate. Yet here too lurks the specter of national security. The Oversight Committee was originally founded in 1927 for the purpose of overseeing the executive branch. But in 1991, Congress passed a law that gave up its power to oversee parts relating to national security.

“In rare circumstances, Congress has chosen to enact laws that limit its own ability to access specific types of information,” the Congressional Oversight Manual says. The manual adds that “commonly cited statutory restrictions on oversight…relate to foreign intelligence activities.”

Though Congress has generally interpreted executive privilege narrowly, national security is the big exception to that. It’s as if President Trump, or any president for that matter, has a panic button labeled national security.

Attorney General Pam Bondi explained back in March why the Epstein Files won’t be released. Asked by Fox News host Sean Hannity if anything besides victim information might need to be redacted, Bondi replied: “Of course, national security.”

Of course.

And so the word “unclassified” slipped into the resolution and nobody even questions the implications of including a national security term where it has no place. National security has become the dark matter of government: a substance that is everywhere around us and yet scarcely visible to anyone.

 

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this was discussed yesterday as it appears Ken Klippenstein posted it yesterday. If not, prepare to be disappointed. The word "unclassified" is going to stop all but the most mundane shit from getting released.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/national-security-blocks-epstein

“National Security” Blocks Epstein Files Release

 

Yep.  And it's super-easy.  Trump will say "declassify any mention of any known Democrat, keep everything else classified."  And that will be that.

There is no honesty or truth from this regime.  Every thought, word, and breath, is lies and deception.  It's the most evil regime imaginable.  But take heart.  It is going to get much, much, much worse.

Posted

Of course, libs consider pedophilia to be at best a legitimate expression of human sexuality, and at worst, a mental disorder that the afflicted should not be held responsible for.

 

Image

  • Fuck You 1
Posted
1 minute ago, Earl Haffler said:

Of course, libs consider pedophilia to be at best a legitimate expression of human sexuality, and at worst, a mental disorder that the afflicted should not be held responsible for.

 

Image

Look, we know you read slower than most, but you're gonna FREAK when you see who else is mentioned in these emails.

  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Haha 2
Posted
7 minutes ago, Earl Haffler said:

Of course, libs consider pedophilia to be at best a legitimate expression of human sexuality, and at worst, a mental disorder that the afflicted should not be held responsible for.

 

Image

yeah man, its the libs who are running around explaining away that sleeping with teenagers doesn't count as pedophilia...

Posted
12 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Look, we know you read slower than most, but you're gonna FREAK when you see who else is mentioned in these emails.

That much I can agree with you on.  There's gonna be a lot of carnage on both sides when the dust finally settles.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Earl Haffler said:

Of course, libs consider pedophilia to be at best a legitimate expression of human sexuality, and at worst, a mental disorder that the afflicted should not be held responsible for.

 

Image

I'm not up to speed on the code words they used so maybe can you tell us which part of that email says Jeffries was fucking kids or sucking Bill Clinton's dick?

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Earl Haffler said:

That much I can agree with you on.  There's gonna be a lot of carnage on both sides when the dust finally settles.

And every single anti-Trumper on here is good with that. Let them all be exposed and held accountable. 

 

Oh, and also: 

bothsides.jpeg.d53b7b4ebf05d8b830b8cbfaa6f487d6.jpeg

 

Edited by Hank Kingsley
Posted
20 minutes ago, Earl Haffler said:

Of course, libs consider pedophilia to be at best a legitimate expression of human sexuality, and at worst, a mental disorder that the afflicted should not be held responsible for.

 

Image

What in that email text gets us to either jefferies or your much broader “libs” believing what you are claiming?

Posted
2 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

I'm not up to speed on the code words they used so maybe can you tell us which part of that email says Jeffries was fucking kids or sucking Bill Clinton's dick?

Well, it's been speculated that DC pizza parlors engage in trafficking underage persons for sex and the sender of that email is Italian.

ttmygh

 

  • Haha 1
Posted
1 minute ago, Earl Haffler said:

Well, it's been speculated that DC pizza parlors engage in trafficking underage persons for sex and the sender of that email is Italian.

ttmygh

 

Ain't no Italians running a place called Comet Ping Pong. 



×
×
  • Create New...