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Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Yeah but it was still an objectively worse decision to promote Lufoi than our decision to hire Beck. Lufoi had to be stripped of his DC duties in all but name like 3 weeks into the season with Saban just doing it himself to get through that stretch. Really pointless for us to argue about that though because I actually agree with you on Golding. He seems to be a very good coach and we could do far worse. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Well he employed Lufoi as a DC and Lufoi was far worse as a DC than Beck was an OC. So literally yes in answer to your question. edit: to be clear I actually rather like Golding. Much prefer Arnett since I think he is a 'yes' we could get right now and avoid the damned drama or risk of having to reach for a C tier guy, but Saban is definitely not infallible when it comes to promoting the wrong guys up within his team. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
This is what its going to look like on the sideline every time we get a pick: -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Huh? The TFB update only mentions Freeman in the context that Ash to LSU is now a possibility that Freeman has passed on them. Perhaps you are talking about a different update than I. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Arnett is a LB coach by trade I believe so he would definitely handle that unit. He also probably doesn't need two DL coaches in his system. Its a flex 3-3-5 that he does change up week to week but I'd think having Davis - DL, Arnett - LB, Joseph - Safeties / Passing D Cord, ??? - CBs (pls be Raymond) and then Gideon as ST / helper with LBs and nickels would make a ton of sense. Adequately covers the secondary and still lets you go get a rainmaker at TE. edit: Oh, I would just as happily take Ansley as Co-DC (non-primary) coaching CBs if that report about him wanting out at Fake-UT is true. Raymond would be the sexy hire but Ansley is very damn good himself assuming we are confident he's clean of their scandal. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Have we actually had a TE coach the past decade? I haven't been able to tell -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Yeah there is no reason to believe those 'reports' at all if they are even swirling. He was well regarded at Akron and then spend some tutoring under his mentor, arguably the best current offensive mind in football, at Bama.. there is no fucking way Ark St wouldn't want him unless they discovered some massive red flag we are unaware of. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Yeah but we also played OU before Rattler broke out and unless I'm mistaken they were still missing that beast of a RB right? OU was a completely different team in the second half of the season really starting from after our game. Not disagreeing with any of your overall points but that is context that shouldn't be ignored when considering our performance against OU. Rattler went from looking brain dead to like a superstar in that overtime period and carried that momentum forward. With regards to that TFB blurb: Golding is a solid coach but I do not love the optics of hiring a guy Bama has just fired (which would be the case if they bring in Muschamp) especially when that guy is someone with close relationship to the dude making the hire. Can we just please stop being the fucking program that gives 'soft landings' to all the premium schools' throw away trim? Not saying Golding would not or should not be the guy, just saying I don't want to hear all the bullshit that will come with it. I have to imagine that 'Arnett may not pick Texas after Joseph hire' part is absolute nonsense though. Surely we are not so fucking stupid as to eliminate one of our top two choices by rushing to make a position coach hire we had no reason to rush. Have to think that was viewed as a fit with all our DC options or it wouldn't have happened -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
This. Especially with Sark having been vocal both in the past and recently how much he likes the 3-3-5 (and most guys we are talking about as DC can run variations of it) it would be full on clown fiesta to go into 2021 with no coaches on staff that actually specialize in coaching CBs. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
I guess to stop the players from being worried about whose coaching them next year (if the replacement isn't ready to announce) instead of focusing on the game? I'm not sure I really believe that myself though. Realistically its probably a situation where Sark would like to hire Golding but Golding is only going to leave if Bama can find a suitable replacement, perhaps even Muschamp who would forgo his planned year off to work with Satan again, or something like that. Could be moving pieces where we think its Golding but he isn't ready to firmly commit until everything is in place. I hope its not that scenario though because that leaves us with a high chance of our asses hanging out in the wind if he just stays there. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
I was starting to believe that the insiders might actually have a pretty good feel for how this search was going with all the names and buzz about specific assistants getting thrown around but that Joseph hire coming from absolutely nowhere makes me think they are just as full of shit as always and we 100% should not trust the 'Davis, Raymond, etc' talk. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Starting to make me a believer in the Golding theory but I just don't see how he leaves Bama unless he is getting fired and I can't see why Sark would want to hire a guy Satan has lost faith in. Square peg, round hole type situation there... but it definitely seems like Golding being the dude makes the most sense as to why its so quiet yet positional hires are happening. I don't think he did any actual recruiting for Bama in his role as analyst but people have said previously he is really good at communicating his vision for an offense and QB to croots. Not sure what that is worth, if anything, but those comments came from some Akron guys I know who were always impressed with him /shrug -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
For thinking that we shouldn't hire Peter fucking Sirmon as DC? Stop being a retarded pussy. Settling for bullshit like a Sirmon hire when he has no practical experience being 'the guy' and no experience even being 'the second in command' of a major program's defense is how you backslide from a national contender into... whatever the fuck we currently are. Take your own advice. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
That would be a fairly dog shit fallback. You don't hire the third-in-command guy at a PAC school who doesn't face anything really close to the kind of offenses we face 3-4 times a year on a regular basis. I don't even think Sirmon calls defensive plays for Cal. That is the kind of hire you make at Tech. That is the kind of bullshit hire Charlie Strong would have to make because no one else would agree to work with him. Sirmon being our showrunning DC would be a catastrophic failure of the process and I'll keep repeating that no matter how many times I get negged or shouted down every time he gets brought up. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
I think people who are hating the Joseph hire hate the idea of him coaching corners. He isn't a CB coach. He has always (or at least for past few years) been a safeties coach and isn't supposedly all that great at player development. So great at game planning and a very good recruiter, sure, but if its just him and Gideon running what has been an ass secondary for most of the last decade that would be an alarm bells ringing situation. All that said- I'm like 99% sure we will hire another CB coach and none of the above is relevant. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Yeah and advanced stats don't do a fucking thing to show us whether a DC is capable of coming up with a plan that can stop a passing attack like OU. Nor does it show whether a DC can adjust their scheme on a regular basis because they are facing a handful of solid offensive coaches a year that will exploit them if they just do the same thing vs Cal where you play like one damn team that doesn't blow gaping assholes on offense an entire season. That isn't even getting into the still-subjective nature by which quality of opponent is even assigned in the first place for those advanced metrics as there is a fundamental lack of cross-conference play that would be required to accurately gauge such a thing on a regular year-to-year basis. Even going beyond all of that I still point out that Sirmon is the third damn guy in the pecking order on that defense and elevating someone from third in command of the defense to Cal to running the show at Texas would be an absurdly questionable hire. Not that I think it will happen. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
I think that is the major red flag here. You only have so many coaching positions and we need a true player development to hopefully, for the first time in like a decade, help our CBs stop sucking balls and make good on their potential. That is what burns a bit in this Joseph hire. He doesn't push the needle on the development side. Still keeping an open mind and this could be a HUGE win for us depending how the staff rounds out. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
It helps to be good nationally on defense when your conference plays god awful offense. Antiquated schemes and mediocre, underdeveloped talent galore up and down the PAC. So I take any claims of Cal even being all that good defensively in the first place with an absolutely massive grain of salt. Then looking deeper Sirmon only recently was made Co-DC and he isn't even the primary guy. Tim Deruyter is their primary DC who calls plays, as I understand it, and above them both is their HC Wilcox who himself has a background in being a DC and is probably far more responsible for whatever success they've had then the guys under him. Nor have Sirmon nor Dereuyter shown themselves to be weapons on the recruiting trail though maybe someone can correct me on that if I'm mistaken? I know its hard to land bigger fish at Cal but the quality of talent they would now be expected to bring in, and the level of competition they will have trying to recruit, would be a sizable step up. I'm not saying he is a shit tier coach. To me A-tier = Whales like Muschamp, B tier = really good guys with some questions or not as long a track record like Freeman, Arnett, etc. and then C-tier are people that have been... fine, but hardly mind blowingly impressive, and are only getting hired because they are friends of friends. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
Multiple groups said that part of Raymon's 'demands' for leaving would including having full control over the secondary. That doesn't mean he had to be the only secondary coach on campus but it does probably mean he won't accept having someone else directly above him as 'defensive pass game coordinator' or whatever. Us hiring him to that specific position makes Raymond 100% donezo I'd have to think. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
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Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
I will be fucking pissed if our DC ends up being Sirmon. That is the same kind of C-tier 'But he is a friend of a friend!' horseshit we've had the last 8 years. Not going to worry about it till it happens but hiring Sirmon would be an absolutely massive red flag imo. Having serious shots at Arnett, Freeman, Odom, potentially even Quinn, and Ash already on campus? The end result simply cannot be goddamn Sirmon. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
I agree that is almost certainly how this plays out but some insiders, for what its worth (not much, admittedly), have been saying Gideon might be 'just' the ST coach and then help around as needed with the rest of the staff. I don't really but that since it means not being able to have split DL/DE or LBs into two groups which based on scheme is usually pretty damned valuable. I agree though like 99% chance this closes the door on those other secondary coaches -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
I guess it is possible Ayers and Raymond could still be in play, since Joseph is typically safeties, but I imagine Joseph is going to wear a Co-DC tag and that is almost certainly the same thing that would need to be dangled to actually get Raymond or Ayers on board. Man this really came outa left field... he is by no means a bad hire but it seems odd as fuck and absolutely not a move to be made unless we have our main DC decided. In the very least this should 100% mean Ash is gone -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
If Oregon decides they want Arnett they will probably get him. It is the more desirable DC gig, even over us, when you factor in what a rotting dumpster fire all but like 3 teams are in the PAC. Even the 'better' teams like Washington, Utah, USC, etc. have major warts and are hardly consistent offensive juggernauts at this point. Simple fucking Jack could make himself look like a viable HC candidate as a DC in the PAC with Oregon's talent on that side of the ball. If Arnett is 'our guy' we probably can't wait till Tuesday to offer him. -
Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread
HateYouAndMyself replied to Im_smarter_then_you's topic in Football
My first thought is that it would likely mean Arnett, if anything, but Quinn is closely connected to a ton of excellent LB coaches so if it ends up being him he probably has guys he wants to slot into that roll himself. Point is I doubt we can take anything from Hutzler leaving either way beyond 'Ash is likely not returning' which seems more obvious by the day anyway.
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