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  1. Just now, Old Freak Nasty said:

    As far as the polls go, people are actively, intentionally lying to pollsters to distort results.  I think the profession of polling is yet another Trump cancer victim.  This is not a case of having to develop better models to address blind spots.  They have zero value anymore.

    2 things..

    1) People who support the president don't want to be called racist and have bricks thrown through their windows by unstable antifucks. The truth didn't matter, there was nothing to gain and only downside. So when pollsters asked who people were voting for, people were afraid to give a honest response. 

    2) There was absolutely an organized effort on behalf of trump supporters to lie to pollsters to maximize the shock value of today.  Enjoy.

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  2. 4 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

    So people with heart conditions, cancer, and transplant needs will flood north, show up at a hospital, and receive free care? That is your prediction?

    We have people flying in pretty regularly to John Hopkins, MD Anderson and St. Jude's.  I think it you offered those services for free, you would definitely give people a major reason to illegally enter the country.

    I think these candidates need to clarify what all is going to be covered under these proposed plans.  From what I've read, most of the candidates have a very wide definition on what they would define as healthcare so it's a pretty safe assumption at this point we'd be fitting the bill for actual health problems like diabetes, cancer and heath disease. Not just colds and bruised knees.

     

  3. 1 hour ago, Longhorn94 said:

    do you think they were agreeing to provide wellness checks for illegal immigrants?

    I think they were agreeing to provide free "healthcare coverage" to undocumented immigrants. Leading up to that exchange they were talking about healthcare coverage including "medicare for all" and whether the public should be allowed to buy alternatives in the marketplace.

    The question itself asked if their government plan would provide coverage for illegal immigrants.

     

    Based on how they described this plan, I am pretty sure this would include preventative care, vaccines and plenty of other stuff.  Where is the cutoff?  Was there something I missed?

     

     

  4. 4 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

    so they should be turned away left to die on the street? what do you think we do now? 

    There are certain things hospitals are required by law to treat and there are other non-life threatening ailments that are not.  That's one of the reasons why healthcare costs are going up.  Even under the ACA, illegal/undocumented migrants couldn't purchase health insurance on the exchange.  Providing free healthcare to non-citizens is not a popular policy. 

  5. My take:

    It's Warren and Harris now.  Everyone else is a distraction.

    It was very stupid for candidates to support free healthcare for illegal immigrants.  Moderate Democrats and most working class Dems are not okay with that being part of the party platform.  This is an issue that will cost the nominee votes in the Rust Belt.  It's an insanely stupid policy.  Why not just take the next step and provide healthcare of those who aren't able to make the trek?  Think of all the people with medical needs we can pay for in Mexico, Venezuela and Honduras.  Fuck it, let's just pay for the medical care for the entire continent of South America!

     

     

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  6. 4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Because it wasn't the main problem?

    Once again, a party is not a democracy.  Hillary bailed out the DNC.  There was no foul play.

    You can trivialize and reframe what happened it all you want, but that's not how many Sanders supporters took it.  A lot of them felt cheated

  7. 6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    The truth is there were many reasons Hillary lost, fallout from the primaries is one.  However, I think what gets lost, and is ultimately more important is why Trump won beyond the “Hillary was a bad candidate” nonsense.  Hillary didn’t have anything to do with Trump beating 15 other republicans to win the nomination.  That is all on republicans.  Why did that happen? 

    Look at who he went against..

    Jeb Bush?  ZZzzzzzzzzzz

    It was a 2 horse race between him and Ted Cruz who barely got reelected to the Senate as a Republican in Texas.  Who on the Republican side would you have voted for?

    Quality human beings don't usually get into politics and it's even rarer they win elections.  2016 showed that in spades. All of them were pieces of shit and we ended up with the orange one with a hot wife.

  8. 1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    Hillary failed because she tried to tightrope the “both sides” space politically.  She came off disingenuous and untrustworthy because of her lack of visible conviction on damn near everything.  So I can see why most consider her a bullshit politician, she tried real hard to wear that costume.  She had an authenticity problem and it cost her the presidency. 

    Rigging the primary is what caused her to lose the election.  If she hadn't played dirty and/or offered Sanders the VP or a cabinet level position, she would have probably won the election.   I don't understand why people can't just admit that was the problem.

    My fear is that we are seeing the same thing with Warren/Harris being the chosen ones and the primaries are just for show again. 

  9. 21 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

    Going to put on my Beto shirt, go to a redneck watering hole I frequent and watch the natives squirm.  Might even talk shit, if the occasion presents itself. 

    Be sure to get a designated driver or Uber home.   Don't  be like BETO and flee the scene.

     

     

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  10. There wont be an armed uprising is the Right loses the House and/or the Senate.  There wont be an armed uprising if the Right keeps the House and/or the Senate.

    Regardless of the outcome, there will be unstable morons that will act violently in response to the outcome. 

    Specifically, I think Seattle and Portland will have problems regardless of who wins. 

    Places like St Louis and Atlanta have calmed down dramatically leading up to this election and there is some hope for stability there. 

  11. 13 minutes ago, bernorange said:

    Apparently Khashoggi was pretty tight at one time with OBL and the head of Saudi intelligence.  He (Khashoggi) apparently also lived in Virginia (at least part time).  What are the odds that this guy was a CIA asset (and probably why the neoconservatives are so pissed)?

    He was buddies with Osama Bin Laden.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmF7vOX1SJc

     

  12. 3 hours ago, MixtyMotions said:

    There was more than just what she did at Penn.  Harvard claimed she was Indian.  They didn't say she had an ancestor in the woodpile ten generations ago.  She owns that.

    Actually she was designated as the "first woman of color" with the Harvard Law School.

    Can we all at least agree she isn't a person of color?

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