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PeeWeeSherman

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  1. I suppose, in this context, individualism means (stolen from someone else with all due credit)….

    “If you truly account for all the categories you can apply to people then no two people will ever represent the same experience because each person represents the 'intersection' of dozens, hundreds of different traits the sum total of which defines them as an individual. By acknowledging that different traits interact, you're ceding that no two people are truly comparable and alike and thus its (sic) pretty much useless to divide them up into groups and pretend all members of said group are the same/have the same experience. Basically by defining a person by all the groups they belong to, you're defining them as an individual because they're the only person who belongs to all of said groups, making them unique.

  2. Primarily, however, he doesn't actually make any arguments. He throws a bunch of vague nothing out there, creating a morass of words.

    Then why do you give a shit?  Seriously.  Why expend internet energy on this guy?  There are scores of folks out there that say something and say nothing at once.  Why focus on this guy?  Why post a single interview question out of the thousands of hours on youtube?   Like it or note, he is very effective voice against leftist bullshit nonsense.  That’s why you post smear videos.  

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  3. If that was the long and short of it, fine, but it should be obvious what I dislike.

    - Vague bullshit about "Western" culture

    - Anti-feminist

    - Anti-transgender

    - Endless vague lecturing about virtually nothing

    Ok.  Respectfully, there’s not a whole lot in that.  Yeah, he acknowledges differences between males and females.  Yes, he is opposed to COMPELLED speech but is not opposed to using pronouns for those he/she/they view as being genuine.  And the consequences to not complying with compelled speech laws (from what I understand) are fines and jail time.  Yay 1st amendment.  And holy shit he’s long winded. 

    It seems to me that leftist have a huge problem with Peterson because he effectively argues that identity politics is complete horseshit and that intersectionality, followed to its logical conclusion (all of the intersections), results in individualism.  Not promoting any group over the other is not being anti anything, really.  If I were to start life not knowing what group I’d be a part of, I’d hope individualism would be the dominant world view.  Best chances for me and everyone else that way. 

  4. Bad_teammate, if you do not mind me asking, what's your beef with Peterson?  The general message of getting your shit together, growing the hell up, taking responsibility seems to be a pretty positive one.  Yeah, some far right winters might like him (he hates the left afterall), but what about his message is off putting?

  5. If racists adore Peterson, it's because they're too dumb to know his message (not too surprising really.  Peterson disavows collectivist thinking consistently.  It's not a secret.  The alt-right likes him because Peterson loathes the far left/identity politics crowd.  Enemy of my enemy and all that.....

  6. But even taking all of that at face value, his worldview essentially prioritizes his own high level of privilege over essentially anything else involving minority groups or their needs. Which is, of course, why the hateful love him so much.

    His worldview, seems to me, is that the world should organize around individuals, not identity.  He calls left wing SJW-types idiots and calls alt-right white nationalists losers.  He seems to say that identify politics is wrong all the way around.  The question coming from tin-foil guys (Bolsheviks, Russia, the media, Jews, wtf?) is nonsensical.  That’s why he can’t “disentangle” it.  From what I’ve seen, Peterson is high strung, super serious, and might have a touch of autism.  I think he was genuinely trying to wrap his head around it.  

    Peterson has thousands of hours of lectures on-line.  The left would LOVE to find evidence of bigotry.  There is none as best as I can tell.  The best they can seem to find is him laughing off a bullshit question and not denouncing it forcefully enough for their liking.  Equating his worldview (individual, not identity) with anti-semitism or being anti-black or saying his worldview strengthens those causes is just a bullshit smear.  Equating his laughing off tin-foil guy with Trump’s “both sides” comment is the new post-trump Brisket (and I say that as a member of the Brisket fan club).  

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