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  1. On 1/12/2021 at 5:53 AM, Al_4_ISU said:


    Returning the 1st team all Big 12 QB who owns every school record by a landslide and did so in less than 3 full seasons is a mixed bag?

    That’s a take.

    Purdy finished 4th in the Big 12 in QB rating (Rattler by a mile, Ehlinger, Sanders).  That's fairly historic for ISU, but regarding them now as a conference contender, I can live with OU facing him twice again.  Would rather see him and Breece than anyone and Bijan.  Don't tell the locals I said that.

  2. 7 hours ago, Hurtlocker said:

    Article on CBS said 20 out of 22 starters back.  

    Come on, man.  It's like a whole team of Perry Ellises up there.  Raised by dinosaurs and enrolled in the Eisenhower administration.

    Purdy coming back is a mixed bag though.  Gives you a certain floor, which for all Campbell's built is no given at ISU.  But the turnovers under pressure are that team's ceiling, and there'll once again be a pretty good pass rush between them and the conference title.

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  3. Same old same old. If we have to go 1-1 heads up against Alabama this year, I'll take McCutchin.

    1 hour ago, quigley said:

    No going after secondary options in 2021 may be strategic (LJ and Edwards wouldn't be considered secondary, but I think OU mistakenly didn't prioritize them).

    With two top 2022 backs thought to be OU leans and the transfer portal sucking up 50 players a day, OU may want to go after a 1-2 year rental with a track record in college to avoid a numbers crunch down the road.

    Yeah, all of that.  OU has guys in the system equivalent to what they could scrape up now.  McGowan will be viable once his vision and understanding of the offense come along a little more, i.e, stop trying to Roy Finch it anytime something goes wrong.  Even Mikey Henderson can probably be RB1 if needed (and I'd love to watch it).  They can at least get OU through any gap between Brooks and an elite 2022 guy.  I will cut DM some slack for losing a close one to Bama less than a year after arriving in Norman.  Coming up empty in '22 should be unforgivable.

  4. On 12/19/2020 at 2:37 PM, TexArcher said:

    Everyone should rep this.

    If you coach at UT for four years and OU wins all four conference championships, you're a piece of shit coach and you should go away forever.

    But OU's had the advantage of a fresh new QB the whole time.  Next year they'll be forced to reuse one and that's when Tom will get them.

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  5. 21 hours ago, DanTheHorn said:

    So lets take a look at the list of coaches with a national championship since 2000.

    The crap shoot coaches (No prior experience or very mediocre before unexpected success)

    Bob Stoops
    Dabo Swinney
    Larry Coker
    Gene Chizik
    Ed Orgeron
    Les Miles
    Pete Carrol

    The sure things (Lots of success shortly before taking their NC job)

    Nick Saban
    Built a 10-2 team by his 5 year at Michigan State and beat #24, #3, #20, #13 and #10 on the way to that record. He only lost to #17 Wisconsin and #20 Purdue with a guy by the name of Drew Brees.

    Urban Meyer
    Had gone 10-2 and 12-0 at Utah and had 4 years of experience. He took 2-9 Bowling Green team and turned them into a 8-3 team in year one (i.e. taking crap and turning it into gold).

    Mack Brown
    Mack had a 10-2 and 10-1 in the two previous years prior to being hired at Texas. In his last year he only lost to #3 Florida State and made a basketball school relevant.

    Jim Tressel
    In a seven year span he Won four national championships in division D1-AA. He was 47 years old at the time he achieved such a feet.

    So what we need is a coach that meets the following criteria:

    1) Has at least 4 years experience as a head coach.
    2) Has won at least 83% of his games in his final full season.
    3) If he is from a lower division he has either gone undefeated or won a national championship.

    I mean, Ed Orgeron didn't win a natty so much as he kept things quiet long enough for Joe Brady to win a natty and run for the hills.

    What this group shows me is that there is not a surefire winning formula unless you can money-whip one of the top active coaches into your program.  (Hate to say it, but even aTm is proving that can work.)  You have the proven hires but they're outnumbered by an assortment of outside non-HC hires, internal promotions, former interims, etc.  The right guy is hard to find.  Especially in a place where coaching football games is only a small part of the job.

  6. Floating Bob Stoops, like every other rumor about him since he retired, just doesn't line up with why he walked away.  There was no scandal about to break on his head like all of Stillwater insisted on believing.  His dad dropped dead on a football field.  He hadn't recruited competitively, or even acted like he wanted to, in years.  He took the XFL job because it was what it was.  No expectations, no pressure, no groveling to teenagers, hardly even any media, just low-stakes football with a few of his old players.  If he didn't want the year-round circus that is OU, what does Austin look like?

    Matt Campbell is not the worst idea I've heard.  He reportedly had paths out of Ames before now and signed an extension instead, so I don't know what that means.  Maybe UT can throw more money at him.  The headline that would cause me concern wouldn't be Campbell to Texas, though...it'd be Heacock going with him.

    I think it's irrational to dismiss Fickell just because Herman was also a former tOSU/Urban guy with a G5 head job.  Fickell's track record at UC is longer and more consistent than Herman's at UH.  He's also just a different person and it's hard to imagine him, or a randomly selected adult male, being so unlikable.

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  7. 5 hours ago, RGBIII said:

    Hes a salesman with nothing to sell...

    He can keep talking.  All his hot air directed at Norman just seems to blow recruits up this way.

    In seriousness, what is going on down there?  Didn't y'all win easily last week?  Why did two close losses start a slow-motion implosion?

  8. On 10/26/2020 at 2:06 PM, quigley said:

    He was a curious take based on recent OU DB recruiting strategy. The Sooners had favored taller, stouter DBs. Wonder if this is a sign for Bowman?

    (I know that the buzz is about him playing offense)

    At best third-hand information, but I have read OU chatter that the coaches didn't love what he was putting on film.  The track speed was a fit but the size wasn't, so it didn't take much to sour OU's opinion.  I don't know that this should be read as making room for anyone in particular, including Bowman.

  9. 1 hour ago, GabrielsHorn said:

    I like Sam. He loves this university like we all do and does give a shit. However, the way he's playing this year is how he always is and always will be. He is extremely streaky on drives, with them either looking incredible or wtf moments. He's not a player to win a NC or Heisman, but he's certainly a good player and the best QB we've had since Colt. 

    However, this coaching staff is the one that is wasting him. A player like Sam should win at least one Big XII championship. With that fucking thief Herman, we've wasted all four opportunities for him. 

    Sam Ehlinger is your Jalen Hurts if Jalen Hurts had been singing Boomer Sooner in the womb and started here for eight years.  You have to respect the leadership and toughness, but you just can't unsee the opportunities that a better passer would exploit.

  10. On 10/5/2020 at 2:00 PM, BrazilHorn said:

    I guess as Herman is known for just being an absolutely terrible gameday coach who turtles at the absolute worst moments and neither he nor his staff have have any sense of what the fuck is happening in a game (as seen by Ash twice leaving middle of field sans LB resulting in two easy QB runs & Yurchich going to hurry up on 1 yd line with gassed RB and 2 mins left)

    Riley when not suffocating on dicks from Bob Stoops' perpetual bag of them he left in Riley's care at least seems to have a plan on offense and the players at least try and execute. I think Rattler's elusiveness gives Ash fits on Saturday and OU rolls Texas big.

    That would shock me.  Looking at both defenses, this is going to be a shootout at very best, and I don't think OU has the skill guys for that right now.  OL could come together at any moment given the talent and the coaching, but our #1 and #3 receivers so far are an H-back and a true freshman, respectively, and RB1 is also a true freshman.

  11. On 10/4/2020 at 7:52 AM, BrazilHorn said:

    Difference is OU will take game seriously and Tom “winning is hard” Herman won’t. 
     

     

    Respectfully, what in the past two weeks has led you to believe this OU team is capable of taking a football game seriously

  12. 17 hours ago, Burt Macklin said:

    like I said above, this is a good throw, but no one’s ever questioned whether Rattler can throw a pretty ball to his first read who’s wide open while sitting in a clean pocket. 

    In the last 10 years, I'd say OU played 6 games against Texas with QBs who could not routinely, if ever, make that exact throw:  three with a construction worker last seen slinging picks in the XFL, one with the Chiefs' lesser-known TE, one with a QB who was subsequently run off to aggyland, and one with Jalen Hurts.  OU was 5-1 in those games, and 3-2 in the same period with QBs who make that play in their sleep (at least in college).

    OU can lose this year, but that has nothing to do with Rattler.  I'll send him into the Cotton Bowl tomorrow with no hesitation.  It has everything to do with the talent, depth, experience, and size of the defensive interior against the fully calcified battering ram on the end of Ehlinger's neck.

  13. I think the Big 12 has as good a chance as ever to put in a one-loss champion, assuming the season is completed, and even assuming the B1G pulls off the miracle of cramming in enough games for Ohio State.  The PAC has eliminated itself only slightly earlier than usual and Notre Dame for once won't be allowed to watch CCGs from home if they're relevant. 

    The other obvious threat would be a one-loss runner-up of the SEC champion's division, as in 2017.  (I still don't think anyone wants to see a rematch of a CCG.) If we default to Bama winning the SEC, that eliminates the East.  LSU is a shell of itself and seems unlikely to get through trips to Florida and Auburn before facing Bama.  Auburn is perhaps the best possibility if they beat Newman-less Georgia and Burrow-less LSU before dropping a close Iron Bowl.

    Of course, anyone who loses a game around here is unlikely to go anywhere in the CFP anyway.  If we're 10-1 I might rather just hang 400 passing yards on someone without 80% blue chips.

  14. 17 minutes ago, golfclap said:

    I was a big Ugwoegbu fan as a recruit. Huge athletic upside and a hard worker. I don't know how much harder the reads for ILB vs. OLB are in SpeedD (thinking of his learning curve). I assume that the LB spots are used more as attackers/disrupters than the standard read-react that you often see at ILB. Barnes is just a football player. I don't think you'd want to continue the path of not recruiting clear ILBs prospects but at least these 2 guys are good football players. Having Kobie McKenzie is a good start, he's going to be very good. I expect Mukes to be an outstanding OLB in a couple of years. I guess I'm not sure what the profile for Grinch's ILB is, based on the guys he's targeted as recruits vs. who has played it from the current roster, but  I assume that Stutsman will carry 225 -230 and play inside unless the Sooners get Wallace. Wallace looks like he could carry 235-240 pretty easily, big lean frame. 

    Ugwoegbu flashed late last season.  Rumor has it he is doing well inside (but not ready to start there) while Barnes is doing...less well.   Stutsman's main recruiter was Odom, so he should at least get his first look inside.  I don't know how much McKinzie's moves to '21 and back to '22 threw a wrench in this cycle.  There was less urgency in the '21 LB class when it looked like he could make it.

  15. On 8/23/2020 at 1:16 PM, Armybrat said:

    There is an interesting thread on SEC Rant - “OU Cheating” - that immediately morphed into a “the whorns cheat even more” fantasy. 

    Wait, SEC fans think OU and Texas cheat?

     seth macfarlane spit take GIF

  16. On 9/3/2020 at 9:59 AM, golfclap said:

    Assuming Spray Tan is Wiltfong? If so I approve of the nickname. Otherwise I completely agree it's a thing Murray will have to learn. Anything you say to a recruit - you are saying to all the recruits and the other coaches. 

    there's a shitton honestly.

    First, do you know what the number is for OU in this class? You guys have 14 right now - and signed 23 last year but with 4 guys in from the portal - I don't know where each of the counters go. So do you have numbers to count back so that you can take a full 25, even with the transfers? I've tried to find it but no definitive answer. I am assuming that the way the Gilliam/Burris/Abiara situations played out that OU is feeling the numbers crunch despite only having 14 (officially) in the boat.

    Safe to assume that Byrd was the silent at the Summit? 

    I think we'll see Farooq, Byrd, Wheaton, and I assume in the end Foster added to the class - which gets it to 18. I imagine you will fight for Leigh until the fax is sent it. Same with Jardin Gilbert, is that a good assumption? Do you have any idea who else will end up with those last few spots? 

    Is Trevin Wallace (the BC LB commit) still a possibility? Is Chase Hattley a possibility or is his status dependent on Gilbert? is there is scenario where they'd take Hattley and Gilbert? 

    the 2022 thread could use some discussion as well - esp with how deep the in-state crop is for Oklahoma in 2022. 

     

    Spray Tan is DeMarco. That was his name in Brennan Clay's wife's phone.

    Can't nail down the exact number either.

    Yes, Byrd is in and was probably the eyes from the Summit.  The "O" emoji from that weekend was 2022.

    Leigh is going to take that LSU trip and from there it sounds like a coin flip.  Recent history recruiting against LSU hasn't been great, but none of those kids have been from northern Virginia. 

    Haven't heard anything about Gilbert or Hattley.  With four DBs already committed and space becoming limited, both of those guys would be a lot.  As of a couple weeks ago, Wallace was on the table.  Have to assume he still is...there's no sure ILB in the class (247 lists Stutsman as OLB), no others on the horizon, and the current roster situation is such that we're moving Ugwoegbu inside and Barnes down.

  17. 9 hours ago, golfclap said:

    Insert Leper Messiah joke here ________. 

    It's fucking annoying that we can't get at least a couple more Sooner fans to come and actually talk recruiting (like quigley) without going full butthurt and getting crowdsourced. they read surly constanlty and post updates from us all the time, and talk shit about me, but I have yet to neg a single one. (that I can think of)  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

     

    *31-page thread flinging poop at class, team, coaches, program, school, state*

    "Why can't they come here and be nice?"

    And yet, here I am.  What recruiting are we gonna talk about?  I don't trust Spray Tan yet and saying stuff like that to Edwards is a rookie mistake.  But the more reliable OU outlets see this as two holes for two pegs:  OU and UT will split Wheaton and LJ Johnson, one way or the other. Is there more to it?

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