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  1. 4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

    So I don't really know where this should go, but has anyone else noticed the right wing love of Elon Musk?  It seems like a weird juxtaposition with their environmental views.  Is it just because he's a billionaire and kind of an asshole?

    He says things that piss off liberals. That’s about it.

  2. 1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

    I wish people would stop crediting Trump with well thought out and nefarious plans - general malice and stupidity are really what’s going on. 

    Yes, and I hope my post didn't come across that way. Trump and his supporters have had zero psychological development past early adolescence. They're morons, but they like a lot of the same things. For example, engaging in violence and then blaming the victim. (i.e. DARVO) Thus, regardless of whether they actually believe these preposterous absurdities, I believe they enjoy them, and can't wait to employ them. And ultimately, I think we'll be the fools in the end if we fixate on how stupid anyone would have to be to believe these ridiculous things Trump says. It's far more useful for us to consider that their support for what Putin is doing is a tell that they'd like to also do the same thing.

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  3. 4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

    I have a lot of problems with an overly broad social safety net. I’ll take a Medicaid expansion and prolonged unemployment benefits any day over what we are seeing from the current GOP

    And this sort of rhetorical concession shouldn't even be needed if we were having a discussion with someone in good faith.

    The real world outcomes of continuing to support the GOP are obvious. Support for the GOP amounts to a desire to end of the Great Experiment altogether - even if you "agree" with their "ideas."

     

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  4. 1 hour ago, slorch said:

    Wanna know why people hate Cloakroom?

    having a real discussion with multiple, multiple posts, and yet some (weakass) posters cry for censure or times out.

    Grow the fuck up motherfuckers.

    98% of the posters in here just want to talk shit through.   Couple of y'all are wanting to cancel shit.  Go fuck yourselves.

    Right above this post, @TwiceHorn asked you some legitimate questions. Why don't you direct your attention to the posters here who are providing you the "real discussion" you're seeking?

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  5. 50 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

    I don’t want to call him stupid. I think he is just someone with an exceedingly low educational level. You can kinda tell when people fit that profile. He may have graduated from college and yet didn’t understand or retain anything he learned five minutes after the semester ended.

    To be more specific, I think he's someone who has never developed any measure of self awareness. When he gets an impulse telling him, "hey this chart makes Biden look bad, I'm gonna go post it on Surlyhorns," most of us in that same circumstance would stop and ask ourselves, "wait, I realize that I'm highly motivated to agree with the inference that this chart begs me to make. Maybe I should look it over once more before sharing it triumphantly."

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  6. A friend of a friend whose family manages a huge equity fund told me once that all the hedge funds recruit self professed Marxists out of school because they have the most accurate understanding of how capitalism actually works in the real world. Not fully sure if it’s an exaggeration, of course, but I find it amusing.

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  7. 7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Also, to win the nomination or the election, Trump needs more than his "base."  He needs a goodly portion of more standard Republican types and independents.

    If he keeps sounding like a lunatic on this one issue, it's going to hurt him.  And he can't hang up on a debate like he can Steve Inskeep.

    Based on 2020’s results, how do you figure the votes aren’t there among the “more standard Republican types and independents?”

    There is some conjecture at play either way, because we don’t know how these voters responded to Jan 6, but I think it’s a safer bet to count people who voted for Trump over Biden 2020 as Trump voters in 2024.

  8. 8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


    This is how treasonous the GQP is: Ted fucking Cruz is not treasonous enough for them.

    Let that sink in.

    Ted Cruz, the guy who casually mentioned a few days ago that, yeah, if the GOP wins the house in 2022, they'll probably go ahead and impeach Biden. For something. Whatever it is. Yeah, that Ted Cruz.

  9. 3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

    I think it's fairly important when this kind of stuff comes out, because it reaffirms what a lot of us think, or our experience with the Q-following relatives/acquaintances/etc.

    It's one thing for us to say "obviously these people are mentally ill and need to be treated as such", and it's another when we get actual proof from years past.

    It ties into what Bama Chick is talking about - what pushed them over the edge.

    But for me, it also gets into the twin issues of how we need to have a long talk about how these people people 1) are being radicalized and 2) being used and abused, which then leads into who is doing the using and abusing.

    Because right now, the GOP is using and abusing these folks in a way that political parties/campaigns haven't done so in the past - GOP members, all the way up into the highest positions in the party, are feeding misinformation to their followers, knowing that these mentally ill types are hanging on every word.

    It's very easy to point to Tucker Carlson's legal team saying basically any rational person doesn't believe what he's saying and that he's just pumping out entertainment, but we are overlooking the non-rational/mentally-ill types are lapping this stuff up.

    I don't tend find the psychology of Trumpers all that complicated when I encounter it. We live in a time where people who don't ever grow up out of adolescence are still inculcated with enough examples of adulthood from television and movies that they more or less develop the ability to act the part. So, their acting job is sufficient to convince most of us that they are "normal" adults, and we're all busy with our own lives so we don't pay much attention anyways. But behind the scenes, they spend their entire adult lives hanging on to the adolescent view of themselves as the center of the universe. When a conspiracy fantasy comes along that offers them a once in a lifetime role of being a soldier in an army that's saving "western civilization," it presents their ego with a good enough and more importantly *realistic* opportunity to be special and noble that they're happy to share center stage with everyone else who is in the same boat as them.

    They're children in grown up bodies.

    But, I've only seen a few handful, so I could obviously be wildly extrapolating from a small sample set...

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  10. 7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    “Be great or be nothing” is as close to Ricky Bobby plagiarism as you can get on the right side of intellectual property law, and so I am just going to admire the blatant grift and wish them all well. 

    It's such a stunning bit of accidental self ownage, too. I look at that poster and I see 10 guys all ready to sniff the sphincter of greatness, because they know what greatness takes.

  11. 21 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

    You see, if you deny something long enough, it becomes inevitable. Then you're off the hook! The buck is passed.

    Let the kids deal with the inevitable. They can live in my Escalade with the tow package and extra big engine when the shit goes down. They can keep water in that huge gas tank that provided me with so much range.

    They'll love their ol' granpa for having such foresight!

    It really seems like you can boil down the modern GOP to one basic underlying premise: all of the people who can actually do any work are long gone, so the only position they can feasibly take on literally any systemic issue is inaction. They're not even good at rationalizing inaction anymore; they just repeat their tired covers of the same old hits that were written by the last generation of conservatives, like "the free market can fix it!" and "the left is just using the issue to scare you in to their agenda!" The fact that they are sent to Washington to pose as lawmakers in this bullshit theater does mean they need to offer the public something vaguely resembling an agenda they actually intend to accomplish. Bigotry seems to be the only agenda that any pack of idiots can successfully deliver, which I think explains its appeal to them.

    These narcissists deny climate change instinctually because their underdeveloped psyches can't actually solve problems. Their bigotry stems from their incompetence... among other things, of course, such as their envy of anyone who is actually successful in life without having to pretend.

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  12. I'm a sucker for stories about psychologically broken people. In particular, I found the co-dependence of the two characters to be really fascinating. It's wasn't just about a guy being bamboozled by his therapist. In the end, it was about two people who mutually supplied something different to one another, that made the other whole. And the lack of self-awareness of Dr. Ike was really well done... he doesn't ever show any signs of being aware of his own narcissism. His rage comes infrequently and always quickly dissipates, and you get the sense that because he's so good at manipulating, he seldom really needs to really leverage his nasty side, and so he likely isn't even aware he has one. You can really believe that his internal dialog, for the most part, is that of an upstanding therapist: thoughtful, observant, and genuinely compassionate. I have to give Paul Rudd props for being able to shift his expression subtly and effortlessly whenever his focus diverts to his vices.

    It's easy to hate the guy, but the uncomfortable truth is that we all have our moments, and I think what made the show work is that as crazy as the events that unfold really are, we can still see ourselves in these crazy characters.

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  13. 4 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

    You do you, the offensive line's entire objective is to block, blitz pick up is secondary in the Sark offense because he tries to get his best players in open space. You can't do that while blocking. I never saw blocking as a primary issue for the RB's except in wildcat and they had really good results with that from my recollection. I recall the RB room being the deepest and most talented room on the roster. Not sure too many people would argue with that. Blitz pick up from RB's being an issue is nitpicking when it comes to this team's deficiencies on offense. I come from the lean QC perspective. What are your biggest issues and fix those. You have corrective actions to fix those issues. 1. O-line, 2 QB, 3 WR, RB issues would be last. Having said that, they should always strive to improve in any area that is possible but to insinuate that RB blitz pickup was a major deficiency on the offensive side of the ball is absurd.

    So, Deming’s ghost for WR coach? Wonder if he can be a volume recruiter, too.

  14. On 12/7/2021 at 6:07 AM, Fastbreak said:

    I think a real question needs to be asked about why these people want to destroy America. There has to be something I am not seeing about the root cause?

    Once we hit a certain point we will never be able to come back, and 2024 is looking like that point in time. I don’t think the country will last through the decade.

    Before the election I predicted here that there would be a civil war coming. Now I think that the side for freedom is too weak to fight and it will simply be a silent takeover. 

    That first paragraph sort of implies that people are consciously thinking about the ramifications of their actions. I don't think that's the case.

    Imagine, for a second, that Trump summoned the GOP's leadership to a private meeting in secret. Now imagine he told them he will sink the party -- something he absolutely has shown a willingness to do -- if they don't make sure he "gets the votes he needs" when he runs in 2024. What would the GOP do? Faced with a choice between losing their power, and giving in to Trump's demands for an engineered electoral victory in 2024, I pinky-swear-promise that the broader consequences would not factor in to those people's decision. And hypothetical secret meetings aside, Trump has taken every opportunity to present that dilemma to the GOP. Get him the votes, or he will destroy it all. He's actually done it all in plain view of the public, it's just been too shocking for most people to accept, so they reassured themselves. "It can't be this bad." It's every bit that bad.

    American democracy is not being destroyed by design. It's crumbling because it's moral foundation has eroded. The character and integrity needed to sustain its structure is gone. You saw it not only with every GOP vote against both impeaching and removing Trump, but also the way the GOP representatives conducted themselves during the investigation proceedings. You saw it with the way that their propagandist news outlets actively distorted and obstructed their audience's view of the truth.

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  15. I’ll throw in my prediction for how the right explains Trump’s Epstein flight.

    JFK Jr was actually the pilot, and he and Trump were having a secret “mile high” meeting over the Atlantic, where they were planning a big event that timed Jr’s return to the spotlight with a batch of top secret arrests of Dems and high ranking RINOs. Unfortunately, som dem high ups (led by Schiff) caught the scent, so Trump played 4D chess and laid down this smokescreen, including doctored images of Trump with Epstein, to throw the left off their trail.

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