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Posts posted by BillyBadAss
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Receiver was fucking held! That's why the ball sailed past
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Fair points, Ima, I just saw that really easy out for the Rs (a one-year extension) and was terrified they'd accept that offer.
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4 minutes ago, immamac said:
the war could have been won on this, this was the hill to die on. MAGA dies if they don't cave, full stop and in no uncertain terms and with no caveats. That's what Bozo doesn't get.
Again, I think the Rs would have likely capitulated before things got too bad and accepted the offer to extend the subsidies for a single year. This would have been the worst possible outcome for Dems. Everyone will have forgotten about the shutdown in a year, and nobody would feel the pain of the increased premiums before the midterms.
It seems you think the Rs would have held on long enough to tank the economy in ways that would still be felt next year - one can make some compelling arguments to that end, I'm sure, but to say it with "no uncertain terms and with no caveats"? eh..
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12 minutes ago, The Dog said:
This is a case of over-promising and then under-delivering.
Democrats needed to realize that extending the ACA subsidies was never going to happen. But they pushed that narrative anyway as if it was achievable. This fired up the base thinking that they could hold the line indefinitely. This was a miscalculation as the GOP doesn't give two shits that people's insurance premiums are about to skyrocket and were willing to hold out indefinitely in order to appease Trump and their misinformed base. So this was never going to happen - at least right now.
The irony is that this might get us Medicare for All sooner rather than later.
You might be right that some Dems feel that way, but those aren't really the people that matter in this case. The people who pulled the lever for Harris are going to vote D in the midterms, almost no matter what. What the Dems should care about is getting people who voted for Trump to either stay home or switch and vote with their economic interests.
I think they did about as good as they could do with the cards they had in that regard. I don't even know that they planned it - but ultimately that's the way it happened. If the Rs had agreed to extend subsidies a year in return for passing the CR, that would have been a disaster for Dems, IMO. This seems like about as good an outcome as they could have hoped for. The Rs will own those exploding premiums, as much as is possible in our disinformation society.
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3 minutes ago, immamac said:
To cause massive riots in the streets and a wholesale collapse of the government with no one able to ignore the realities that this is caused by a failed government that is completely controlled by a single party at the moment and that party is doing this on purpose. Large scale recall elections, impeachment, crashing of the stock market, enormous market disruption to the point of not being able to function.
But it wouldn't have gone that far - either A) the Rs cave and extend the subsidies a single year - this would have been a win for them ultimately, I think, without actually solving the problem or B) they nuke the filibuster and pass the bill without any D support.
B might have brought more attention, definitely more pain, but ultimately the same outcome, no? It's up the the voters to notice their premiums are unaffordable to motivate them to possibly vote differently.
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3 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:
Honestly, I’ve never seen any data on this, but I unfortunately have this cynical idea that the chuckleheads who don’t pay attention are still not paying attention and have never paid attention. certainly a few more people followed the ACA standoff every time they mentioned it.
Monthly premiums going up hundreds of dollars will make them pay attention, so I think it will be the bill in the mail instead of the media that will provide the information that matter matters.
This is my thinking too - they brought attention to the fact that the shutdown was over ACA subsidies. This is all abstract and doesn't really matter to most people. But ACA open enrollment is happening right now (opened Nov 1) - when people see the new premiums they should make the connection - why is my premium doubling? Oh - isn't that why the government was just shut down - maybe the Dems really did have a good reason, maybe Obamacare was actually helping me, yada yada.. Many of those people receiving subsidies may also receive SNAP - they got a double-dose of what the party many of them voted in thinks of them.
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For the folks that think the Dems blundered this, what outcome did you want to see it as a success?
In my eyes, if the Rs acquiesced and extended the subsidies, ultimately that would have helped the Rs, not the Dems. The Trump voters aren't getting the same info you and I are, they need to touch the stove and see the dysfunction affect them personally to be swayed.
So what was the desired outcome?
Extend the shutdown longer to extract maximum pain to make the Rs look even less able to govern? I can see that I guess - but at the risk that it backfires or doesn't really change the opinions of the average low info Trump voter.
Force the Rs to nuke to fillibuster? What good does that do the Dems? (asking honestly). Can't they just nuke it next time they are in control if they want it out of the way?
What?
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I understand morally why some Dems might want to extend ACA subsidies, I don't understand politically why they'd want to (right now). I really don't understand why they'd want to extend them only 1 year - which would stave off the pain of increased premiums until post midterms.
The Dems seemed to stumble into a good outcome - they shined a bright light on the fact that Rs are refusing to extend subsidies, without getting the subsidies extended.
This seems like a good political outcome ahead of the midterms when people who have freshly lost their insurance or been forced to pay out the ass for it are headed to the polls remembering Rs allowed the govt to be shut down rather than help.
What an I missing?
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On 4/18/2025 at 10:22 PM, TexEx15 said:
Yes the only fix is rip out and rebuild.
I'm in the same boat.. No, pools are not worth it.
It seems there are thousands affected and very few have or likely will see any compensation. My builder went OOB. The concrete company that mixed the faulty concrete is OOB. The respective insurance companies are finding any reason to not pay out.. it's a mess.
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Is it frowned on to post for-sale firearms in this forum?
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How many times can they mention Freemantle and his 2 fouls?
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10 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:
I decline to do so, but could some brave soul check in on texaggs and let us know the general themes?
"Sure is starting to feel a lot like the early 2000's. So glad we bent over and let these ****bag ****stick foreskin sucker asswipes into the SEC with us. **** Sankey with a 10-foot claw dildo in the ass for eternity. "
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If anyone is interested in 2 tix to Billy Strings at Moody Center tomorrow - check the For Sale (best buy coupons) board.
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Selling 2 - Sec 114, Row D, seats 4-5
Paid $90 for each after fees $180 total. Would let them go to a Surlite for $150.
Ticketmaster has them held hostage it seems and can't sell them there, but can xfer them.
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It will be interesting to see how America reacts if they do succeed at massive deportations. It's one thing to think about it in the abstract and far away. It's another to see people in your own community affected. What happens when local restaurants or services start to be visibly affected? Food prices increase or there are shortages of things like chicken. Construction halts, you can't find a lawn service, the office trash stops being emptied, etc.
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This American Life did a segment on the logistics of it all - they spoke with a senior guy at ICE and he walked through a lot of it.
TLDR; - they can deport massive amounts of people if most restrictions are essentially removed, but still there are limits.
Worth a listen: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/846/this-is-the-cake-we-baked
(the part I'm talking about starts 7 minutes in, and is 17 minutes long)
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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:
The last round of Trump - when they weren’t NEARLY as powerful - they tried to launch an effort to deport lifetime US citizens like my dad (that is, people born in US border hospitals in the 30s and before, when record keeping wasn’t A+). What gives you the idea they won’t be more emboldened this time?The reason I don't think it's a concern is because there are logistical barriers to deporting people. Personnel to round people up, processing facilities, transportation to the "home" country, agreements with the home country to allow the plane to land and how many people they will process a month, etc. etc.
They can fully max out all of that capacity with much lower hanging fruit for years before they'd be out of illegals who are "easy" to deport (have no protections or recourse). Trying to do the same with citizens will take much more effort and require complicity across the states, congress, supreme court, federal agencies, etc.
It just doesn't seem likely to me.
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The guy was asking if he should be worried if his wife might have her citizenship revoked. Some of you seriously believe that's a worry? Seems hyperbolic.
I realize who/what we are dealing with in the incoming administration, but there is soooo much more lower hanging fruit than trying to peel back well established parts of the constitution - especially to apply retroactively. And if we get to that point, there are larger worries.
To boot, the guy is married to this woman - pretty easy to gain residency and citizenship via marriage anyway. There are plenty of things to worry about right now, but I don't think that poster needs to seriously worry about his citizen wife being abruptly deported, personally.
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3 hours ago, hookem2010 said:
Currently a citizen herself, obviously. But is there any way in this fucked up country that they would attempt to revoke citizenship?
Birthright citizenship is in the Constitution, 14th amendment. You should not be worried at all.
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Just now, wildcat09 said:
What is that from?
Unless I'm mistaken, that was the green new deal bill:
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres109/BILLS-116hres109ih.pdf
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On 11/25/2024 at 5:02 PM, wildcat09 said:
That's basically what they've been doing for the past several decades.
On 11/25/2024 at 4:04 PM, The Original Greaser Bob said:This sentence captures what the problem is. Are billionaires really trying to subdivide us into groups beyond the haves and the have nots? By slicing and dicing people into genders and races and sexual identifications, we are dividing ourselves.
Let's stop. I think trans people are in a unique situation but as far as others, we should help those who are economically disadvantages and stop putting them into groups.
Dems should pursue radically color and sex blind policies that are based solely on economic need. They should also favor all forms of social inclusion but not politicize appropriate social behavior.
My perception is that many dems conflate every issue with identity. Take the Green New Deal - the message was not "climate change affects ALL of us, we really need to take it seriously". It was:
"Whereas climate change, pollution, and environmental destruction have exacerbated systemic racial, regional, social, environmental, and economic injustices (referred to in this preamble as ‘‘systemic injustices’’) by disproportionately affecting indigenous peoples, communities of color, migrant communities, deindustrialized communities, depopulated rural communities, the poor, low-income workers, women, the elderly, the unhoused, people with disabilities, and youth (referred to in this preamble as ‘‘frontline and vulnerable communities’’);"
Why? What can that possibly accomplish other than to alienate many of the people you'd need onboard to effect real change?
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14 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:
R.I.P. Pimp C
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3 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:
Any of you guys hit the Wilco Winterlude shows at Moody over the weekend?
I'm going to both nights at Cain's this week. 60+ songs over two nights and no repeats...
Super pumped for some DEEEEP cuts.
They were top notch - tight, Tweedy's voice great, etc.
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Texas @ Georgia November 15, 2025 - The Beginning or The End
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Arch had looked pretty good most of the night. Not perfect, but pretty damn good.