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  1. 8 hours ago, bullet said:

    Gene Chizek won a real championship at Auburn in 2010 and got fired 2 years later.

    More of a testament of Cam Newton than anything regarding Gene Chizek IMHO, my point is that if a terrible coach can go undefeated at place which went winless within a few years, the place is more valuable than one thought haha

  2. 1 hour ago, bullet said:

    UCF might continue to do very well.  But you can't deny that they went from a 12-1 Fiesta Bowl winner to 0-12 in just 2 years with the same coach.

    Yet Scott Frost some how won a championship there, if that's not a sign UCF is a power nothing is

  3. 7 hours ago, 'stache said:

    The Big 10 being part of that makes no sense. They are the direct competitor with the SEC. they don’t need it to roll in that much money. I can see maybe with the PAC based on the rose bowl history and relationship, but not to bolster the money or prestige.

    I agree with you, it makes the B1G look weak IMHO

  4. 18 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

    And still the only conference to pull it off and the only one that has made multiple cases for it and will be adding a team that was regularly one of the other 3.

    ACC pulled off two teams last season with ND and Clemson

  5. On 8/11/2021 at 9:07 PM, bullet said:

    I was including Washington.  Forgot that their MNC was coach's poll, not AP.  Miami won the AP that year.

    No worries, had a feeling that may have been your intention to include them but I honestly had to double check to make sure for U Dub.  I like the idea of those who are proven in the pools within the modern era and call it day, but at the same time I kinda feel that College Football requires a "Class System" to survive; otherwise it is essentially an NFL lite and will lose its charm.  

  6. 1 hour ago, camel at sea said:

    This is true.  But it leaves out a lot of programs that *almost* won a title.  WVU ('88, '93, '07), OSU ('11), KSU ('98), TCU ('14), and Baylor ('14) have all been agonizingly close to winning or playing for a national title.  That's just within the Big 12.  Even though they didn't win a title, those type of seasons keep those fans coming back, investing in tickets/donations, watching on TV, etc.  It's a major change to what college football is if you remove those "almost" seasons from the equation.  

    Would also cut out Wisconsin, Virginia Tech, Washington, and others.  Honestly feel that Washington deserves a seat at the table over Oregon, the O in the middle of Autzen means Zero National Championships after all.

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  7. 12 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-jan-04-sp-50475-story.html

    Warsaw Rules.


    When Janikowski was arrested for possessing GHB in Tally - and tried to bribe his way out - he said in defense that he did not speak English well enough to even understand the cop.

    English literacy is no bar to FSU gpa eligibility. Also, Deion Sanders did not attend ONE class his last semester at FSU. Not. One. Which was fine with Bobby.

    Buddy went to UF (has a National Championship Ring) same time when Leak was QB under Urban, same bullshit of Leak and the other players never going to class and many being illiterate. Something about stones and glass houses... Otherwise I didn't know that y'all cared this much to dunk on Bobby after he just passed away, thought y'all were the class of the SEC?

  8. 3 minutes ago, Bama Llama said:

    When FSU had little talent or clout Bobby bootstrapped the program into national pos rep by scheduling road games against powerhouses and eventually winning most of them on and off campus. Good on yer and hope the afterlife is good for you.

    In 1981 they went through a gauntlet Bowden coined Octoberfest; they played at Ohio State, at Notre Dame, at Pitt, and at LSU all back to back.  They won most of those games, just lost to Dan Marino Pitt. Crazy to think FSU had schedules like that 40 years ago.

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  9. 34 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

    I think the City of San Antonio would jump on the chance to wash its hands of the money losing Alamodome if Bexar County jumped in and offered to float the bonds for a new stadium like they did with At&T or whatever it will be called now.    Where it would go and would they coordinate with UTSA  is the question.   The Alamodome site would make a great baseball stadium site and would be bigger boost for Downtown potentially vs the current situation.  

    I agree, when I lived there always thought that a MLB team in San Antonio would kill it.  Used to go to the games that HEB would put on at the Alamodome, was always a good time.

  10. 9 hours ago, bullet said:

    Not only that, but most SEC fans, including my Georgia wife, insist Texas is NOT the South.

    The fact that we don't insist on sweet tea is a clear signal!  And to top that off, we have our unsweetened tea or Shiner bock with beef BBQ, not pork.

    I always thought Texas wasn't the South too.  When I lived in San Antonio the girl I dated there truly believed that Texas was the South. Always felt that Texas is more of its own identity the longer I lived there.

  11. Ahhh the Texas/Ohio St/Texas/Bama//FSU/USC/etc... are evil villains argument.  I just assumed if they hate you, embrace it. It just means those other fan bases are jealous of ya

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  12. His son Terry said it was pancreatic cancer, that really sucks.  Glad Bobby is in good spirits during this all, he is a great guy and wish him the best on his remaining days.  Thanks Bobby for building FSU, we would be nothing without you.

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  13. 5 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

     

    Hard to say on the schedule.  OU/UT = anOSU/PSU.  But ask Ohio State what it's like to play Wiscy and @Iowa on a regular basis.  That may be the reason ND scheduled the Badgers at neutralish sites, Lambeau and Soldier Field.

     

    But it's easy to say with the money.  Has any school not named Notre Dame voluntarily taken a pay cut for a better conference culture fit?  And when we turned down the BUG in the late 90s, there was not a crystal clear contractual 8-digit sum in play.

    The only case I can think of is South Carolina leaving the ACC to go independent due to North Carolina Hubris, or Chicago leaving the Big.

  14. 2 hours ago, utee94 said:

    I don't think Nebraska or Arkansas would have any better chance at the playoffs than they do now.  They'd just be losing to Iowa State and Baylor instead of Alabama and ... well... whoever Nebraska plays in the B1G.

    I agree that the Big XII would be harder opponent wise for Nebraska; however I believe Nebraska recruiting would more than likely improve in the Big XII due to having greater exposure within the State of Texas.  Arkansas would have an easier schedule due to being out of the SEC West.  Either team will be in a premier league so a 10-2 Arky/ Nebbers would probably have a much higher probability in a hypothetical Big XII vs their current homes with an expanded playoffs.

  15. 21 hours ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

    This gem is notable from that thread:


    Let's check in on the last few years of bama/aggy scores:

    2020: 51-24 (27 pts)
    2019: 47-28 (19 pts)
    2018: 45-23 (22 pts)

    Average margin of victory for bama = 23 points.

    I can't imagine why bama fans would expect they'll win by at least three touchdowns. Clearly they're delusional.

    2012 is all that matters hahaha!

  16. Not sure why Texas or OU would want to leave the Big XII when they are in better position to remain kings of their domain.  If I was the Big XII I would push Nebraska and Arkansas to join the conference.  I am sure both school will display hubris on being in a "better" conference; however both know in their hearts that they belong in the Big XII due to historic rivalries, geographical fit, and most importantly having a better chance to actually make the playoffs.  

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  17. 17 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

    You’re forgetting the aggy factor, Nole.  Its force is like dark matter.  You can’t measure it but it makes up half their being. It will consume Baggins too.

    Very true, they are a delusional bunch who seems to routinely throw logic out the window.  I do find it amazing how they overbid for a coach who is clearly regressing.  Jimbo benefited from a special time at FSU where all the football programs around them were down, they acquired a few generational players in key positions due to down recruiting at the neighboring programs, and a period of time before the ACC transitioned into a decent football league.   Jimbo has always been arrogant;  but this period really ramped it up and I don't see that true piece of him ever disappearing.  I don't expect for him to be going "full aggy" for much longer due to his proud nature; however I am looking forward to the inevitable meltdown\faction wars between him, the fan base, and the university's administration.  I said it before and I will say it again, Thank you A&M for getting rid of this cancer from FSU; while he helped to build up FSU in a down period, he was never equipped to continue a juggernaut pace after a few years.  It will be a lot of fun to watch this all unfold after season 2 when they inevitable finish at the 7-5 area and all the aggy faithful begin to question their new lord and savior.  Grab your popcorn; the aggy\jimbo rollercoaster will be grand in 2020.

  18. 7 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

    There are multiple factors that should be in aggy / Jimbo's favor:

    The SEC west is in a downwards trend and there are immediate factors that should should help aggy.... hear me out.

    1.) Arkansas has a new coach and is rebuilding... they were shit so its going to be awhile

    2.) Miss State won't be able to sustain its current level of success IMO and has a new coach

    3.) Ole Miss's coach sucks and they can't cheat anymore / have sanctions

    4.) LSU's coaching caliber is down. Roster is still talented, but this isn't LSU of old.

    That leaves Alabama and Auburn as the top dogs.

    If ever aggy is going to post a winning record in the SEC west / the SEC as a whole, it has to be within the next 3-4 years.

     

     

    Honestly everything you said helps them in recruiting (which is probably more important in the grand scheme for their future) Texas really needs to get back to winning again so it can further halt aggy recruiting.  Otherwise I would also throw in that they play South Carolina every year too, I know Muschamp got a lot of criticism while at UF but I always thought he was still learning the ropes there and ultimately met his end at Gainesville.  Muschamp will still get a lot of quality players on his team because he is a great recruiter; so I wouldn't rule out South Carolina giving aggy some fits in the next couple of seasons and beyond.  Otherwise your concern is warranted upon them acquiring good talent, I feel they are primed to do well in that arena; however their current team is going to have some growing pains the next two seasons for sure.  Oddly I can see aggy giving Jimbo a pass if he does mediocre his first two seasons because I can see him doing well in recruiting.  Jimbo will be known as a builder at FSU and was far from a maintainer.  I can see him doing the same at aggy, and peaking around year 4 or 5; however he will regress shortly after (assuming he is still there). 

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