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  1. 14 minutes ago, Horn21 said:

    Finishing my first pour of the OF 1920 that I picked up last night.
    
    This stuff is fantastic. Lot of flavor for 93 proof and the char blends really well without being overpowering.

    I’m not able to edit in tapa for some reason, but this is the 1910 (not the 1920)

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  2. Finishing my first pour of the OF 1920 that I picked up last night.

    This stuff is fantastic. Lot of flavor for 93 proof and the char blends really well without being overpowering.

  3. 2 hours ago, Chrispy said:

    I’m certainly against it, but we both know why they continue to hire these individuals; they can pay them next to nothing. I’d turn them in if it would do any good, but it would only serve to sour our relationship. Some of these illegal aliens have been deported more than once and come right back, so there’s no point until our broken border is corrected. 

    So the strength of your conviction behind the nonsense that you spout on Surly is strong enough to maintain anonymity on a message board,  but not strong enough to stand up to your friends when they go counter against those convictions due to it making things uncomfortable for you.  And you've accused me of being weak-willed.

    Pretty telling admission about how much you actually believe the shit you peddle around here.

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  4. I’d wager that as a group, evangelical Christians are more afraid of illegal aliens (but in reality, more broadly, people who aren’t white) than any other demographic.

    The truth is that the GOP looks nothing like Jesus, and they’ve largely abandoned his teachings. They are perfectly content to take their marching orders from their party leaders rather than their savior.

  5. “Two thousand miles away, at the Pentagon, officials privately derided the deployment as an expensive waste of time and resources, and a morale killer to boot.”

    Yeah, but you’re assuming the Pentagon knows better than Chrispy and Trump about how to handle this dangerous caravan. Are you saying that you don’t believe this extremely valuable training session for the troops isn’t worth the potential $200 million price tag? Nice try, lefty.

  6. 3 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

    I’ve already explained this to you, but maybe I should send you a coloring book to help you fully absorb the information with pretty pictures. You have capitulated on identity politics and have been fully indoctrinated. The left has claimed another victim and I feel badly for you.

    Interesting take.  Here's how the identity politics is defined in the dictionary...

    i·den·ti·ty pol·i·tics
    noun
    noun: identity politics
    1. a tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.

    I haven't aligned exclusive political movement.  I have, however, pointed out that the only growing segment of Trump supporters are uneducated white men (a particular group as listed above).  Meanwhile, educated white men, educated white women, and all peoples of non-white races/cultures are running away from Trump.  One of these groups of people is growing stronger in its sameness, while the other is not.

    So, Mr. Identity Politics, you tell me which group is forming an exclusive political alliance based on identity.

  7. 20 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

    I live among them as well, but I’m very bored about this discussion of race. You lefties obsess over this stuff, it’s rather sad. Happy Friday guys, all this caravan talk has me craving Mexican food.

    And there it is.  The time-honored tradition of a beaten person refusing to use logic or reason and instead choosing to close with some variation of "Despite putting quite a bit of energy into this conversation, I now realize I have no leg to stand on, so I'll pretend that this conversation is now beneath me and bolt so that I don't actually have to answer any difficult questions."

    Well done.

    Up to this point, you have yet to answer what specific issue I have capitulated on (other than questioning why so many Republicans refuse to question Trump) or why you are content to not question him.  But you have successfully continued to deflect and call me a lefty, which is telling.

     

  8. 1 hour ago, Chrispy said:

    I support Trump, but he’s temporary, when he’s gone I’ll still be a Republican. You’ve capitulated, and that’s ok, but I’m simply not as weak willed. I also don’t personally know any bigots (lefty buzzword), but you better believe when I do, I’m going to let them know Horn21 strongly disapproves of their behavior. 

    You do know that Trump isn't actually a Republican, right?  Not sure if you've heard of it, but there's this thing called pandering for votes.  Trump is on record as pro choice,  pro gay marriage, pro ban on assault weapons, pro universal healthcare, pro high taxes / taxes on wealth.  You think he just saw the light?  Or would that be considered malleable and weak willed?  Or maybe he saw an opportunity to cash in his chips with the uneducated masses in America and realized he could say whatever he wanted and they would never question him.

    What have I capitulated on exactly?  I've stated that I am against bigotry.  Is that what you are referencing?  Have I capitulated by questioning why so many Republicans refuse to stop and question Trump about anything?  Are you that threatened by someone who questions why people would blindly follow their party's leadership?

  9. 2 hours ago, Chrispy said:

    I disagree, I believe Trump made the prudent decision. I live amongst many ethnicities, so that xenophobic nonsense is a common platitude for the mouth breathers on the left. 

    I live among them.

    2 hours ago, Chrispy said:

    I didn’t say I had black or Hispanic friends, I said I live amongst them, with zero issues. That’s not the issue at hand, but I understand the need to obfuscate. 

    And I even behave myself around them.

    1 hour ago, Chrispy said:

    The Woodlands is more diverse than it’s given credit for, but I rarely think about it honestly. Your side of the aisle is the one consumed with identity politics, of which Horn21 is participating. I don’t need to know his position on Trump, he used the left’s buzzwords and gave himself away. 

    I look different than the people around me, trust me.

    1 hour ago, Chrispy said:

    I didn’t realize I said a bunch, I thought I said amongst, but that was in response to someone suggesting I was xenophobic. The overwhelming  number of people that live in my area are white, but that doesn’t take into consideration that vast number that travel through on a daily basis, it’s a very popular area. 

    Okay, so I don't technically live among them (which I previously used as a reason why I can't possibly be a xenophobe).  But come on...I have to look at them in their cars when they drive by sometimes, cut me some slack. 

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  10. 14 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

    You’re malleable, and that’s ok. Based on your posts, the Republican Party seems better off without you, good riddance. 

    Kinda odd for a staunch Trump supporter to use the word "malleable" in a negative light, don't you think?  If I were to change my official party affiliation, oh I don't know let's pull out a random number...5 times, would that be considered malleable in your view?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801

    3 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

    The Woodlands is more diverse than it’s given credit for, but I rarely think about it honestly. Your side of the aisle is the one consumed with identity politics, of which Horn21 is participating. I don’t need to know his position on Trump, he used the left’s buzzwords and gave himself away. 

    The only thing I am identifying you as is a person content to choose party over critical thinking.  You aren't alone.  Like I said, uneducated white males are your only teammates growing in number in that fight.  You stand shoulder to shoulder with bigots and those whose only message is one of fear.  I choose to not keep that sort of company, and yet there are so many in the GOP who wear it like a badge of honor.  I was okay with Trump being elected.  I was naive enough to give him a chance.  He's failed, and failed miserably, at being a leader.  

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  11. 16 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

    I’m sorry you feel abandoned; Godspeed on your transition to a lefty, you poor thing. 

    This is fantastic.  I'm a lefty because I don't blindly follow a political party down a road of lies and bigotry.  There is a reason why the only demographic in which Trump is gaining votes are the uneducated, white males.  He's losing ground with EVERY single demographic who wants to see our country move forward and not backwards.

    Godspeed on handing over your brain and your morals to anyone with an R next to his name.

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  12. 4 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

    I disagree, I believe Trump made the prudent decision. I live amongst many ethnicities, so that xenophobic nonsense is a common platitude for the mouth breathers on the left. 

    Ah, the old "I have black/Mexican friends, so I'm free to spout scare tactics about them" routine.

    I'm not on the left, by the way.  But the Republican Party did abandon me and many others with their refusal to stand up against hatred and bigotry.

  13.  

    7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

    Still have to process asylum requests.

     

    1 minute ago, Chrispy said:

    Denied. 

    Asylum requests at ports of entry are still valid and must be processed, just fyi.

  14. 4 hours ago, JustBecause said:

    Where are you getting your news?   There are trucks and buses moving just about everyone plus food and water.  This “trip” is certainly NOT organic.  Not even close. 

    Good call.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/11/09/migrant-caravan-mexico-president-trump-us-southern-border-immigration-asylum-central-americans/1939241002/

    "The migrants, who number between 4,000 and 5,000 and include women and children, will be on foot along a heavily traveled highway after they failed to secure buses from United Nations officials to get them to the U.S. southern border. About 200 marched to a local UN office to demand buses to transport them."

    1 hour ago, slorch said:

     You are so correct. People that will ignore the laws  already exist in our country would never hide behind children to get their way. They’re absolutely reasonable and just really wanna be contributing to our society. Just like they contributed to theirs. 

     I’m not the one posting bullshit cartoons, questioning the valor and bravery of our service men and women... but slorch is full of hate. LOFL.

    I don't know anything about you as a person.  But you take a pretty callous and shitty view of your fellow humans.  That's nice and all that you're afforded the opportunity to brag about not using your kids as a shield.  It's very macho of you to take that position.  Most of the world, however, was born into shit and squalor.  And some of those people are seeking a life that doesn't include being killed if they don't join the local gang.  In your super brave point of view, what would you have them do?  Accept the fate of their family being murdered?  Would that be the honorable choice in your estimation? But hey, those poor fucks aren't contributing to their society, so they got that shit coming, am I right?

    I am assuming most of us on this thread were born on 3rd base here in America, and some of you assholes seem think you hit a triple.

    1 hour ago, Chrispy said:

    No, I understand your position, I just think it’s wise to be prepared for the worst case scenario. Seeing as the border is already overwhelmed, the military is a very welcomed sight. 

    At their current pace and destination of Tijuana, the majority will arrive in ~95 days.  Even if some break off to Laredo, they're still more than a month away.  Adding to the countless reasons why this is such a stupid move to send the military, the rhetoric has made uneducated Americans even MORE fearful of those of different color/culture/ethnicity.  What a sad thing to walk around in fear of someone different than us.  Don't get things twisted, that is exactly what this is about.  No one wants to admit it, though.  If some gang had taken over Winnepeg and we had 5k Canadians walking to Minnesota, this wouldn't even be a blip on anyone's radar.

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  15. On 11/5/2018 at 7:59 AM, Machinator said:

    Such fake news.  I was in that car.  My friend was driving with his foot on the brake going less than 2 mph.  Some drunk moron not watching where he was going walked into the fender of the car.  And then he started screaming.  Immediate mob mentality because some idiot wasn't paying attention.  Within 10 seconds there are 5+ people banging on my friend's vehicle, red-faced and yelling.  My friend rolled up the windows when another moron threatened to break off the passenger window.  Mind you, my friend's 8 and 9 year old daughters are in the vehicle while grown men are screaming into the car.  So, the original moron then decided that he hadn't caused enough of a scene, so he walked in front of the vehicle, took 2 steps backwards and dramatically flailed onto the hood.  At that point, the people he was with ran up to the cop.  The cop stops us and says "I don't think you're in the wrong, but people out here are drunk and angry.  That was a tough loss and a lot of these people are looking for a fight.  But if someone gets hurt and you're involved, it won't matter if you didn't do anything wrong.  No one is going to side against a pedestrian.  So, I'm gonna chat with you for a bit until the people who are pissed are long gone."  About this time some guy who looked like a Texas student walked up and said "I saw the whole thing, and those people were assholes.  You didn't do anything wrong."

    Long story short: Laura Smith is a liar.

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  16. 1 hour ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

    Yes and I believe it answers your as well. 

    You seem to think that you have a "gotcha" here somewhere because I identified myself as a lifetime Republican/Independent.  Is the gotcha that I haven't identified as a Democrat and therefore have been okay with those bombings?  Your response to my pointing out Republican hypocrisy is to point out additional Republican hypocrisy, it seems. Congrats?  The U.S. has committed atrocities across every manner of political party affiliation, so I'm at a loss as to what your point is here.  

    Here is my point:  Republicans have defended the family separation because "illegal" and have stated they're okay with it.  "Keep them out" Twitter, message boards, in person.  You name it.  They've defended the practice.  Many of them.  It seems as though you are trying to connect the dots that I have defended the act of bombing innocent people.  I haven't.

  17. 1 minute ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

    Lol... as a lifelong Republican/Independent party of pro-life supporter, how can you balance killing and destroying families on a daily bases with daily bombing runs overseas (average of every 12 minutes we drop a bomb even though we are not at war)? Is it just because it's not in your backyard? Or because the news doesn't cover it anymore?

    Are you under the assumption that I support it? I don't. Does that answer your question?

  18. 28 minutes ago, Bookman said:

    That says a lot about your friends.

    It's certainly telling when a bunch of well-off white men are outraged that a well-off white man had to face some tough questions and claim that his life was ruined.

    These same people largely turn a blind eye to brown children being torn from their parents and whose lives will ACTUALLY be altered in a devastating way, perhaps forever.  Trump has publicly stated that family separation was used as a deterrent.  He's on record as saying that. 

    As a lifelong Republican/Independent, it is unconscionable to me that the party of pro-life can be so cavalier about the real impact on the lives of innocent children being used a political toy for our president.  But hey, he's got an R next to his name, so we're all good. 

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  19. 2 minutes ago, Kyle said:

    I don't think I'm doing a good job of helping explain the nuances, but I doubt it really matters. Nothing I am going to say or share is going to change your mind or anyone on the board. I thought I owed you a response. If you disagree with me, no skin off either one of our backs. I will continue to believe that words matter and see a difference between a "political stunt" and a "dirty trick." For example, a "dirty trick" would be if the GOP funded the caravan and then deployed the troops to fight it, but you'll never see it that way and alas, It is really not worth anymore of our time. Have a great week.

    Spare me the martyr routine.  I've been a registered voter for 22 years and yesterday was the first time I've voted for a number of Democrats.  I've seen it your way for decades.  Continuing the "agree to disagree" in lieu of seeking the truth is lazy.

    These caravans have been coming to our border for 2 decades.  Trump made it an issue as a fear-mongering tactic to get his base to vote.  And then he made up a story about it being a threat worthy of military deployment.  And then he publicly gave authorization to fire on someone throwing a rock.  You're fucking A right that words matter.  In 20 years of seeking asylum through these caravans, they WILLINGLY turn themselves in at the border every time.  EVERY. TIME.  

    In what world is the President of the United States sending troops and giving orders to fire when there is ZERO threat necessitating such an action not a dirty trick?

  20. 6 minutes ago, Kyle said:

    A "dirty trick" and a "political stunt" are two different things. Is your contention there is not a caravan of Central Americans attempting to enter the U.S. illegally? I can see where there would be value in have a military presence there to retain order given how these guys treated their entry into Mexico. Nuance is important - sending troops before the election absolutely was political but not without merit or value IMHO - unless you think the caravan was just a fabrication.

    Huck has sufficiently dismissed your odd position, but if you don't believe us, perhaps you'll believe retired military leaders...

    https://www.npr.org/2018/11/05/664492127/several-former-military-leaders-speak-out-against-troops-sent-to-u-s-mexico-bord

    DUBIK: What makes it different is the timing. There's certainly nothing unusual about using federal troops in support of domestic authorities. That's done many, many times. What's abnormal is the timing of this deployment in relationship to the midterm elections.

    ......

    KELLY: And so again, what bothers you about this particular deployment at this particular time?

    DUBIK: Well, again, the timing because it didn't appear to have any military purpose. There's no military invasion. There's - didn't appear to be any invasion, actual invasion probabilities. So why send them?

  21. 2 minutes ago, Kyle said:

    Words matter. If you want to have a reasonably dialogue, it has to begin with personal integrity. Sending troops to the border is not a dirty trick. One can agree or disagree with it, but it is not a dirty trick by any definition.

    What was the "false pretense" or "complete fabrication of the truth?" 

    Immigration is a extremely complex moral and political question that requires more than hyperbolic emotion to solve.

    Am I to understand that your position is that sending 8k troops was not a political move?  Sending the troops to combat something that has taken place regularly for...20 years?

    Let's be clear.  There is ZERO threat posed by this caravan.  It has reduced significantly in number (as it ALWAYS does).  Trump completely made up this idea that it's full of MS13 and general "Middle Easterners" and even if it was, he sent the troops while this scary caravan was 1,000 miles away.  He did it before the election because....wait for it...it was a dirty trick. 

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  22. 17 minutes ago, Kyle said:

    I was one of those people stimulated by the Kavanaugh hearing because dirty tricks inherently turn me off to both sides. I did not support the lack of vote on Garland, and I did not support the fake hit on Kavanaugh.

    Were you stimulated and or turned off by the dirty trick of sending nearly 8k armed troops to the border under a false pretense and a complete fabrication of the truth?  

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