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  1. 3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

    Yes, because police contracts have stopped those from happening. 

    Every time I think I understand how dumb you are you go and outdo yourself. 

    The incidents that get stopped before they can happen don't make the national news.

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  2. 4 minutes ago, Walser said:

    You're an idiot.

    Because I actually take the time to mentally compose myself and look at possible consequences before making a decision instead of knee jerk reacting emotionally without thinking about possible disastrous outcomes to these actions?  On this board I'm not an idiot, I'm a unicorn.

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  3. 57 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

     

    Go hide in your bunker, you draft-dodging, fake tough guy pussy.

    You realize, oh who am I kidding of course you don't, that the decision to go to the bunker is not the President's to make.  It is the Secret Service's decision to make and the president does not have a choice in the matter.  (The Secret Service had to literally carry Dick Cheney to the bunker after 9/11.)

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  4. 5 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

    Tell me why exactly politics and sports don't mix, when they've been mixing as long as both have existed. 

    What good came from the U.S. boycott of the 1980 Olympics?  It changed nothing in the world geopolitically.  All it did was deprive a group of athletes who trained for four years of their opportunity to compete in an event they had their hearts set on competing in.  Same with the U.S.S.R. boycott in 1984.  They changed nothing.   All the sham of the end of the gold medal basketball game in 1972 did was leave a bad taste in the mouths of the American players.  It did nothing to help world peace.  Do I even have to mention Black Monday in Munich?  No mixture of sports and politics has ever helped either sports or politics.

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  5. 9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Yes, right-wing America's tolerance of a black man kneeling on a football field tells us exactly how willing they are to compromise.

    Shut the fuck up, EMAW.

    I would have added this to my other reply from you but I blinked and the editing time expired.  I challenge you to find one post I have made anywhere on this site condemning the peaceful protesters acting anywhere in the country over this.  I have no problem at all with them.  I applaud them.  My issue are the ass clowns who are literally adding gasoline to the fire.

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  6. 3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Yes, right-wing America's tolerance of a black man kneeling on a football field tells us exactly how willing they are to compromise.

    Shut the fuck up, EMAW.

    Time and place for everything.  You don't fart in church.  Politics and sports don't mix.  He was welcome to kneel down in front of San Francisco City Hall anytime he wanted to.  Plus he wasn't kneeling on a football field, he was kneeling on a football field during the playing of the national anthem.  Again, you don't fart in church and you don't scratch your ass when the choir is singing.

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  7. 6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    I shouldn't encourage the troll, but it would seem any thinking person might realize that police discrimination against young African-American men is not limited to the crime of murder.

    True but so far in the 21st century the burning down of inner cities and the plagues of fuckwads setting shit on fire and looting does seem to be limited to cases that result in murder (or at least death) so doing something about those would seem to be the highest priority.  To quote Chuckie above me, so shut the fuck up and let's go from there.

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  8. 2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

    Great, so shut the fuck up and let's go from there.

    That's fine with me but it is never going to be enough for the screaming banshees on the SJW front.  They only see the first domino standing upright.  They have no foresight or knowledge of all the other dominoes that will tumble once the first one goes.  Compromise (like most words in the English language) is not part of their vocabulary. 

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  9. 3 hours ago, Captainant said:

    Interesting time to defend and minimize police brutality, EMAW. Boots really getting a spitshine. 

    I'm not defending it when it happens but the media wants you to think it happens literally hundreds of times more often than it actually does.  It both helps their ratings and meshes with their political views.  Has anyone in the media(other than Ben Shapiro which is where I got this info from) pointed out that in 2017 The Washington Post said there were 68 instances of unarmed African-Americans dying at the hands of police in the entire country?  Now that is 68 too many but that figure also includes the suicide by cop cases and cases in which they went for the cops guns.  That is 68 African-Americans in a country with a population of over 30 million African-Americans so it is not happening everywhere and all the time like the media wants the public to think.  

     

    Let's also stop and discuss the level of expectations that we are placing on law enforcement.  In whole they deal with tens of thousands of cases where they have to make a split second decision based on extremely limited information and if they get that decision wrong someone (either them, other cops, suspects, or innocent people and bystanders) dies.  Granted this didn't apply to George Floyd, there is no excuse for the decisions made there but my overall point is still going to stand.  If they shoot when they shouldn't shoot someone dies.  If they don't shoot when they should someone dies.  And society is trending towards expecting them as a whole to go 10,000 for 10,000 when making those decisions.  That is an impossible standard for any profession to obtain no matter what level of training and experience they have.  Would anyone do the job they are doing now if everyone doing that job as a whole were expected to make 10,000 important decisions in a row correctly?  And what the long term result of these expectations will be is that the better the cop the more likely he is to say "fuck this shit I'm getting a job working as an internal investigator looking into white collar crime cases for some bank or financial company or at the very least a director of security at some factory or shopping mall."  Meanwhile the worse the cop the less likely he will have alternative employment opportunities so the more likely he will stay being a cop, knowing that the police unions will do everything in their power to keep him employed.  Eliminating instances like George Floyd should be a reasonable goal.  Eliminating every single fuck up some cop anywhere in the country makes is never going to be.  The only possible way this could happen would be if every police force everywhere in the country went 100% Robocop and who knows if that would even work.

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  10. And now to destroy a whole narrative and probably get negged through the center of the earth in the process.  Bold parts are my emphasis.

    https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/the-truth-behind-racial-disparities-in-fatal-police-shootings/

    THE TRUTH BEHIND RACIAL DISPARITIES IN FATAL POLICE SHOOTINGS

    Contact(s): Caroline Brooks, Joseph Cesario

    Reports of racially motivated, fatal shootings by police officers have garnered extensive public attention and sparked activism across the nation. New research from Michigan State University and University of Maryland reveals findings that flip many of these reports on their heads – white police officers are not more likely to have shot minority citizens than non-white officers.

    “Until now, there’s never been a systematic, nationwide study to determine the characteristics of police involved in fatal officer-involved shootings,” said Joseph Cesario, co-author and professor of psychology at MSU. “There are so many examples of people saying that when black citizens are shot by police, it’s white officers shooting them. In fact, our findings show no support that black citizens are more likely to be shot by white officers."

    The findings – published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, or PNAS – are based on an independent database Cesario and his team created that catalogued each police shooting from 2015. The team – led also by co-author David Johnson from University of Maryland – contacted every police department that had a fatal police shooting to get the race, sex and years of experience for every officer involved in each incident. The team also leveraged data from police shooting databases by The Washington Post and The Guardian.

    “We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot," Cesario said. "If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

    The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

    Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

    “Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said. “Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”

    By connecting the findings of police officer race, victim race and crime rates, the research suggests that the best way to understand police shootings isn’t racial bias of the police officer; rather, by the exposure to police officers through crime.

    The vast majority – between 90% and 95% – of the civilians shot by officers were actively attacking police or other citizens when they were shot. Ninety percent also were armed with a weapon when they were shot. The horrific cases of accidental shootings, like mistaking a cell phone for a gun, are rare, Cesario said.

    “We hear about the really horrendous and tragic cases of police shootings for a reason: they’re awful cases, they have major implications for police-community relations and so they should get attention,” Cesario said. “But, this ends up skewing perceptions about police shootings and leads people to believe that all fatal shootings are similar to the ones we hear about. That’s just not the case.”

    One thing that was surprising to the researchers, Cesario said, were the number of mental health cases that resulted in fatal officer shootings.

    “It was truly striking and we didn’t recognize just how many there were,” he said. “This shows how underappreciated mental health is in the national discussion of fatal officer shootings.”

    Nearly 50% of all fatal shootings involving white civilians were because of mental health; it also accounted for nearly 20% of black civilians and 30% of Hispanics. These included two types of mental health cases: the first was “suicide by cop,” in which civilians intentionally antagonize the police because they want an officer to kill themselves; the second was a result of mental disorders, such as when a civilian is suffering from schizophrenia and poses a threat to officers.

    Although white officers are not more likely than black officers to shoot black citizens when looking at all fatal shootings, the data are too uncertain to draw firm conclusions once different subtypes of shootings, such as shootings of unarmed citizens, are examined. This is because these types of shootings are too rare for strong conclusions to be drawn.

    Cesario said that better record keeping – such as the FBI's National Use-of-Force Data Collection, which launched in 2019 – will enable researchers to understand police shootings in finer detail.

    Hear more from Cesario on the Manifold podcast.

    (Note for media: Please include a link to the original paper in online coverage: https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/07/16/1903856116)

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  11. 37 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

    Step 1 is to abolish the cop unions imo. 

    Abolishing government unions, that would be an interesting political platform for the Democrat Party to toss around.  I imagine once they stopped to think about the precedent they would have an easier time throwing around manhole covers.

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  12. 5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    EMAW telling on himself for not being able to have multiple thoughts in his head at the same time.

    Like it's possible to agree Floyd was murdered and that also does not give anyone the right to destroy innocent people's property and take away their jobs and businesses?  Everyone is going to remember the killing of Floyd.  Who is going to remember everyone else (cops, protesters, rioters, looters, and anyone else unlucky enough to be in the wrong situation at the wrong time) who has been killed due to the response?

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  13. 24 minutes ago, Tuco said:

    Yes, when Americans see undeniable evidence of a police officer applying excessive force on a black man, resulting in the murder of that black man, they agree it is wrong. 

    But that doesn't address the issue. Well documented, obvious excessive force resulting in murder is the tip of the iceberg. 

    Unfortunately, the American public is still unwilling to 1) demand punishment when cops assault people when it only results in pain and injury, or 2) stop always giving the cops the benefit of the doubt. That is being proven out by reaction to what the cops are doing today.  Many Americans won't question that the cops are firing rubber bullets and tear gas into peaceful protests.  They categorically refuse to believe protesters if there isn't clear video evidence.  

    I don't think the shitheel cop who killed George Floyd was trying to murder him.  I think he was trying to torture him.  And if Floyd hadn't died, he would have gotten away with it.  If there hadn't been video evidence, he would have gotten away with it.  We need to change that situation.  That change needs to happen in the mindset of the American public. Until that happens, there will continue to be the occasional murder, resulting in the occasional riot.  

     

    I have no problem with anything in this post but if this was a problem that had an easy solution we would have found it by now.  Everyone on all sides of the issue only wants to skate around the edge of the pond where the ice is safe.  Until we go out on the thin ice of the issue we are going to dance around the problem instead of solving it.  However going out on that thin ice makes everyone involved with the discussion uncomfortable because to have the honest discussion you have to risk other people having instant emotional reactions to some questions that have to be asked to make a serious attempt to change things and no one wants to risk falling through the ice by asking them.

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  14. 29 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

    bear with me here. maybe, just maybeeee, black people (and people of other skin color) are really angry at injustices they see and are lashing out in anger. 

    why is the most obvious scenario not one you are willing to entertain?

    Let me ask you this question.  When the people doing the looting return home are they thinking  "What happened to George Floyd isn't right" or are they thinking "I got a new TV"?

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  15. 8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

    I actually think it's cool that so many non-UT posters are here.  It's not hard to understand when you look at their main sports-based forums.  Just like it's fun to fuck around in the cfb subreddit with other fans.

    And I'm here indirectly because of Thujone - I used to be a mod on another site (general comedy site), and one of the other mods on that site was a poster on a previous version of this site (groverat for those with long memories, I think he was banned early on at TOS or a previous version) , and he used to post links to Thujone's artwork in the mod forums, and would bug me since he knewI went, and that my wife was currently working on her masters at the time, and because I'd post in the UT threads in the sports forum.

    Thujone and his artwork have pulled in many to previous versions of this site.  Probably got 15-20 of us from the site we were mods on easily, because Thujone's artwork was perfect.

    Yeah, I can't remember the exact work or details but I found my way here via a six degrees of Thujone.   Also, other than the EMAW site where my password is in some kind of internet limbo and I have yet to figure out any way to communicate with anyone on that site without it all the other K-State forums I have come across are like reading paint drying.

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  16. 18 hours ago, SwanderedTalent said:

    You know one thing I don't really see you do, that other site owners do-- you don't really throw your weight around. That last sentence is as close as I can recall seeing you say "this is what I like, this is what I want". There are plenty of other sites which either start to take on the personality and interests of the owner, or get run by the inmates. This one seems like it's still floating along on the current, which would explain why it is reflecting the turbulence of the moment.

    I doubt Blacklab sees moderating this place worth having another heart attack over.

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  17. 18 hours ago, SwanderedTalent said:

    I don't think it is, actually, when (or if) the posters from those fanbases are primarily here as yet another outlet for political bullshit. It's bad enough anyone would seek out a sports message board for political validation, it's even worse when you strip away the common denominator of "at least we're all Texas fans". 

    You have a female Alabama fan with her feelings hurt here. What part of that computes?

    Maybe if we actually had some sports to talk about things would change a bit.  

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  18. 19 hours ago, Bama Chick said:


    Please don’t play dumb.

    You NEVER exude this energy towards the Johnny Sacks of this site when they post their right wing garbage and the fact that the president of the United States has publicly called for the murder of protesters blows any bullshittery about removing politics from this discussion out of the water.

    Everything is political in 2020 because our president makes it so and you know it - you just don’t want to be bothered .


    Anyway, enjoy this new hot single from Taylor Swift.

     

     

     

     

    Trump did not call for murders of protesters. His exact Tweet was "when people start looting people start shooting."  Looting is not protesting.  Looting is looting and people have the right to protect their property and possibly their lives from being threatened.  No one involved with running or working in those stores that were looted had anything to do with George Floyd getting killed.  Causing innocent people to lose their jobs and their property is not an effective method to convince them to join your cause.  In fact it is more likely to drive them away from your cause.

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  19. 8 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

    As many have said over time, why not just get rid of the ability to rep in CR? Positive or negative. 

    Because there are twats like Upper Westside who  go looking for posts to neg rep in non-Cloak Room threads simply because they don't like the posts that poster makes in the Cloak Room.  He's apparently ran out of Cloak Room posts of mine to neg rep so now he is going back through the NFL playoff threads and neg repping all my posts in those threads.

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