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  1. Fong notes on Bussey sticking with Aggie

    Lying to him about him playing all 3 phases was part of the pitch

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    Elko was the only head coach that went in-home and from the moment he got the job he was locked in on recruiting Bussey. Showing him his track record of not only developing players but guys that are NFL All-Pros.

    Ishmael Aristide signed his paperwork making his assignment official at A&M and then hopped in the car and drove to Bussey's house for his first in-home.

    Aristide and Kerry Cooks from LSU were the only coaches at Bussey's state title game.

    This new A&M staff made Bussey feel comfortable and he already had the relationship with BGA and Coach Gaines that helped as well.

    Aggies will use Bussey in the secondary, on special teams and offense where Holmon Wiggins quickly impressed with his track record.

    There will be no shortage of effort and relationship building on the trail with this new staff.

     

  2. 4 hours ago, Hornmatic said:

    I felt we had everyone sitting in the right seat and now everybody is in a different role not suited for their skillset. 

    Unless you directly knew someone on the staff why would you say that? Because we made the playoffs? I'm not even an ardent defender of any of them but I'm pretty confident you don't know any of them or how they work.Having parasocial relationships with the front office of a football team is pretty weird lmao

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  3. Hummer: How real is NIL? Anonymous recruits in college football's 2024 class dish on collectives, contracts and more 

    Interesting concrete numbers, if you're looking for Texas guys, Wingo, Owens, and Kern were our signees at this game

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    SAN ANTONIO — How much do incoming recruits earn from name, image and likeness (NIL) deals? It’s among the most speculated topics in college football, with rumors far outpacing actual information and context. With more than 100 of the nation’s best players gathered in San Antonio earlier this year for the All-American Bowl, 247Sports asked more than two-dozen blue-chip recruits about a variety of topics, including the engine of the recent disruption in the sport: Money and how it’s distributed.

    “Everybody likes money, but it’s kind of the money?” a top-100 recruit said about what he’d change in college football. “I think people don’t play for the right thing in college football no more because they’re getting paid almost the same amount as NFL players, so it’s kind of the money.

    “But I like money, so I ain’t going to say that.”

    Recruits did say a lot about money in their conversations with 247Sports. To allow players to speak freely, 247Sports granted them anonymity to discuss the details of their contracts and how the NIL process works in college football recruiting. It’s an issue that’s largely been shrouded in secrecy given the fact that NIL contracts are not publicly disclosed — collectives are private entities — and are not available through public record requests, like coaching contracts are, at public schools.

    Fifteen four- and five-star recruits disclosed to 247Sports either exactly what they’ll receive or around what they’ll earn at their school of choice. The values run the gambit from a few thousand a month to around a million a year.

    Recruit 1: $350,000 a year

    Recruit 2: $400,000 a year

    Recruit 3: $120,000 a year

    Recruit 4: $180,000 a year

    Recruit 5: $120,000 a year

    Recruit 6: $72,000 a year

    Recruit 7: $75,000 a year

    Recruit 8: $400,000 a year

    Recruit 9: Around $1 million a year

    Recruit 10: A few thousand dollars a month

    Recruit 11: Between $600,000 and $800,000 a year

    Recruit 12: Low-to-mid-six figures a year

    Recruit 13: Around $200,000 a year

    Recruit 14: $500,000 a year

    Recruit 15: Around $150,000 a year

    That’s how much blue-chip recruits can make — every player surveyed held a 91 rating or better in the 2024 Top247. Here’s what they had to say about how NIL works.

    HOW THE CONTRACTS WORK

    NIL agreements can vary greatly from school to school and collective to collective, but there were some commonalities in the responses when 247Sports asked players how their deals were structured.

    Usually, the first year of a contract is guaranteed at a certain number. But there are often incentives for players to raise their NIL payments based on how they play. Conversely, a few players mentioned their NIL payments could go down if they don’t perform well. Beyond cash, players often also receive additional incentives like a leased vehicle.

    “The way I have it, the first two years are 400 guaranteed, and after my sophomore year I can ask to renegotiate based on how I play,” Recruit 2 said.

    “If you produce, you get bonuses,” Recruit 12 said. “Some schools do it differently, but that’s how ours does it.”

    As for what players must do to earn the money, responses varied from appearing at charity events and social media posts to just being on the team.

    “It’s a collective thing,” Recruit 6 said. “Just be part of the team, everybody gets it.”

    Recruit 2 said that there were no off-field requirements tied to his pay.

    “I think it’s just from the collective,” he said.

    There are some schools, even top-25 programs, that do not aggressively hand out NIL dollars. One elite recruit who signed with an annual conference title contender said that it’s on the players to seek out potential deals.

    They’re not handed to them as an incentive to enroll.

    “We get NIL,” one top-100 player said. “We have to earn it, though. He’s not going to point us to people and say, ‘Oh, give him an NIL deal.’ They have to do their research on us to come give us NIL.”

    As for what happens if a player chooses to enter the transfer portal — a commonality in this era — most recruits told 247Sports that their contracts would be void if they opted to leave.

    MYTHS ABOUT NIL

    Thirteen million dollars for a transfer portal class, $30 million for a recruiting class — you hear it all in the college football rumor mill, where posters like Sliced Bread can lead to national headlines.

    But what’s real with NIL numbers and what isn’t?

    You can go ahead and trash any thoughts that most recruits are getting paid millions annually to attend a school.

    “People get paid to play,” Recruit 14 said. “But the numbers that you be hearing are outrageous. … People are just lying and pushing it past what it is.”

    This isn’t to say that the numbers won’t approach a million a year for special players at specific positions.

    Recruit 14 told 247Sports that he and several other All-American Bowl players discussed how some quarterbacks could command a million dollars a year on the open market.

    As for the valuations made by outsiders, players had mixed responses about how accurate those are.

    Multiple blue-chip recruits told 247Sports that the numbers they see are spot-on while others, like Recruit 1, said that his were way off.

    “I’d say 50-50,” Recruit 6 said. “Speculation sounds better than whatever actually happens.”

    There’s also an assumption out there that players always take the most money. But that isn’t always the case, recruits insisted. A pair of five-star recruits told 247Sports that they took less money to attend the school they signed with, which meant losing out on hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    NIL is just one part of the equation as players make their decisions. Some will prioritize money. But others will go where they’ll be developed or simply want to be.

    “My school wasn’t the school that offered me the most money,” Recruit 3 said. “A lot of schools just threw out money and stuff. But I’m not chasing money. I want to play and perform.”

    For as many good things that come from NIL, there are horror stories out there about bad contracts from collectives or marketing agents.

    Look no further than former Florida DT Gervon Dexter, who signed a $436,485 NIL deal with a speculative investment capital company in 2022 with the caveat that the company, Big League Advanced Fund, would get 15% of his NFL earning for the next 25 years.

    That type of predatory deal, along with collectives not coming through on payments, is something that athletes are leery of.

    One top-100 recruit told 247Sports the schools that made him the wariest were those who offered an open checkbook from the start.

    “Schools just told me, ‘Give me a number and you can commit at that number,” that recruit said. “It was intriguing, but it kind of felt like a trap.”

    As for when NIL comes up in conversations with schools and collectives, recruits said it can vary greatly.

    Recruit 3 said that NIL money didn’t come up with any schools until his official visits, while Recruit 7 said that some schools just “throw it out there” very early in the process.

    Some recruits were largely kept out of the process, too, by their parents and representation.

    One five-star recruit told 247Sports that he’d been “domed” from the negotiations to allow him to focus on everything else.

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    “You have to thread out the real, because people throw numbers at you a lot,” Recruit 11 said.

     

  4. Shipp (247 LSU) on Bussey a day out doing an incredible amount of waffling both ways

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    Less than 24 hours out from Terry Bussey's final decision and three fanbases maintain hope.

    The 5-star from Timpson, Texas is set to reveal who he will sign with a little after 9 a.m. CT on Wednesday.

    Two sides continue to express optimism and some level of confidence in A&M and LSU.

    The A&M side still feels it did enough to keep Bussey in the fold as an Aggie, while confidence on the LSU side has not wavered. If anything, some outside the program feel more confident this morning than they did yesterday.

    LSU maintained regular contact with Bussey and his camp on Monday and into this morning. That is always a plus at this stage of the game. When a recruit or his camp starts to go dark, it's time to worry.

    I feel A&M would be the easy choice for Bussey, one that would give him a little more comfort, given his family he is closest to is in Texas. I think it takes on a little extra meaning in his case with all the trials the young man has been through.

    When you consider he never backed away from that A&M pledge and coming off that last visit in College Station, it's tough to not point that meter to the Aggies.

    However, rarely do you see a committed guy take three unofficial visits to a school in a 3.5 month span he isn't committed to. Getting comfortable enough to leave his state and relocate was an obstacle. I use past tense because it sounds like he and his camp are not as worried about Baton Rouge like they once were. It's no secret the city has had its share of stories in the news for the wrong reasons and it's something that has come up with more than one recruitment.

    I'll continue to make calls and reach out to others throughout the day and night and we will see if this confidence and optimism stays where it is.

    For now, LSU feels like it will win the big prize. Key words, for now.

    I never put in a crystal ball pick for Bussey's commitment in September, so I don't have to worry about either of the four picks that went in for A&M the first time around. Keep an eye on those to see if any are updated or changed.

    I'll probably put a pick in this time, though. I'm still not set on it but find myself leaning towards LSU, for now.

     

  5. 24 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

    It is a fairly meaningless distinction at this point but I'd argue Blue is RB1 going into Spring. He simply looked consistently better and more productive than Baxter when getting the ball. He didn't even seem appreciably worse at making it through contact than Baxter. It really doesn't matter though because both will feast if they stay healthy. 

    I think it is meaningful due to Sark's tendency to ride his RB1 so heavily. Obviously we had injuries to Baxter/Brooks muddying things this year but his MO has definitely been that the top guy gets way more carries. 

  6. 19 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

    Yea he lives across the street and there’s a moving truck….  🙄.   It’s the fucking offseason, this isn’t the thread to spread coaching rumors you see?  Simmer down Karen.  

    It's annoying when people come in days later with old info and ask to re-litigate it. Nobody is forcing you to check the thread every hour but it becomes annoying when you act like it hasn't been a conversation and bring nothing to the thread besides saying "rumors". Copy/paste is literally a second's worth of work.

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  7. 1 hour ago, BornAndRaised said:

    4 of the top 5 posts on the CFB subreddit are about this Tennessee situation. Seems like its definitely about to come to a tipping point.

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    It might be, but it's also January 31 and there's not a lot of other college football news to talk about 

  8. 2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

    Such stupid logic.

    Talent is talent. Who cares where they played their high school ball at. Brandon Baker and Ryan Wingo are better than every player ranked lower than like 8th in Texas.

    I agree with you but it's the dumbass narrative we lived through with Charlie Strong where people freaked out he wasn't recruiting enough Texas High School Football Players which made the Texas High School Football Coaches mad. Somehow this wasn't an issue for anyone else at any other school.

  9. 247 Sunshine Article

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    AUSTIN, Texas – Former Texas defensive line coach Bo Davis was universally respected for his role in helping set the tone and culture of a Longhorns’ defense that has steadily improved in three seasons under defensive coordinator Pete Kwiatkowski – and his biggest contributions to the program was his role in developing and getting the most out of several talents on the line.

    While Davis is widely regarded as one of the top defensive line coaches in the nation, Steve Sarkisian’s hire of 37-year-old Kenny Baker may have landed the program one of the fastest risers in the coaching profession and someone who is more than capable of guiding the position room.

    Despite not being a more noteworthy name, Baker has a growing resume of being able to grow talent and connect with his players – something that will be depended upon immediately as several Longhorns including Vernon Broughton, Alfred Collins, Colton Vasek, Sydir Mitchell, Jaray Bledsoe and others will be growing into increased roles with the departures previous standouts.

    Prior to spending last season with the Miami Dolphins, Baker earned his first FBS coaching job at Western Kentucky, where he served as defensive line coach for three seasons under Tyson Helton, son of longtime college head coach Kim Helton and the younger brother of former USC head coach Clay Helton.

    With the Hilltoppers, Baker and defensive coordinators’ Clayton White (now with South Carolina) and Maurice Crum Jr. (now with SMU) 4-2-5 defense helped develop several talents including current Atlanta Falcon DeAngelo Malone, who won a league Defensive Player of the Year award under Baker and defensive tackle Ricky Barber, who after being a lightly-recruited prospect earned Freshman All-American honors in 2020.

    Helton spoke with Horns247 to talk about what Texas is getting in the 37-year-old Baker and what makes him special as a fast-riser in the coaching profession.


    (Photo: Stephen Lew, USA TODAY Sports)
    “How Kenny got on my radar is I reached out to who I call the godfather of D-line coaches in [Former LSU, USC defensive line coach] Pete Jenkins and as a longtime college and NFL guy, he really started grooming defensive line coaches and ran coaching clinics as he got older,” said Helton who was looking for a defensive line coach after former Hilltoppers D-line coach Jimmy Lindsay left the program to take a Power Five opportunity with Illinois. “I’ve had several of those guys who came from that tree, so when I had a coach (Jimmy Lindsay) leaving my staff, he gave me Kenny’s name as one of those next superstars from the Pete Jenkins tree.”

    Entering his sixth season as head coach at Western Kentucky, Helton has been a noted developer of coaches over his tenure that’s seen the program go to five straight bowl games and Helton amass a 40-26 record.

    Several former assistants have taken Power Five jobs including Lindsay, who would later go on to coach at South Carolina and LSU, current offensive coordinators Zach Kittley (Texas Tech), Ben Arbuckle (Washington State) and South Carolina defensive coordinator Clayton White.

    When Baker arrived in Bowling Green, Kentucky, Helton immediately saw Baker’s ability as a coach.

    “When he got here, immediately he was my kind of guy,” said Helton. “You just know when a guy walks in the door if he captures his players and Kenny does that, players are always looking to be educated and want something that’s going to be beneficial to their game. Kenny Baker is a guy who can walk in the door and make a player better and capture his room.”

    Despite his relatively young age, [33 at the time of his hire at Western Kentucky], Helton was emphatic when talking about Baker’s ability to make players better through his attention to detail and coaching techniques.

    “When you talk about having tools in your toolbox to help your team defeat an opponent, he can immediately look at a player and say okay, this is where this guy is at and this is his foundation, this is what I need to do in order to help him take the next step and then once he master’s that, he’s giving that player another tool to help them,” said Helton. “That’s really important, especially in today’s game when you’re not only talking about high school guys, but guys from the portal and JUCO players, who may all be at different stages of their development.”

    Kenny Baker
    Western Kentucky Defensive Line Coach Kenny Baker (Photo: Western Kentucky Athletics, 247Sports)
    Baker will arrive in Austin with a defensive line room that’s filled with players in various stages of their development, like the aforementioned Collins and Broughton, who are primed to be the next pair of defensive tackles to pick up where T’Vondre Sweat and Byron Murphy left off – along with returning defensive ends Ethan Burke and Barryn Sorrell, who are established players but still have room for growth.

    Malone spoke about Baker’s role in helping develop his game further, after coming off a 2019 season where he earned Conference USA’s Defensive Player of the Year honors following a 99-tackle, 22-tackle for loss and 11-sack season.

    “He made me a better player, not just pass-rusher but overall in ways that I didn’t even realize I could be,” said Malone. “It’s the way he teaches techniques and fundamentals, you always feel as if you’re learning from him.”

    Helton concurred with Malone’s sentiments.

    “He’s a really good evaluator of talent and seeing where a guy is, meeting them at their level but then there’s a certain standard that he expects a guy to reach,” said Helton.

    Baker will have massive shoes to fill in following Davis, who goes down in Longhorn lore for his legendary speech to the players as Texas left Iowa State’s Jack Trice Stadium after their 2021 30-7 loss to the Cyclones and the bond he built with his room – with several stalwarts like Sweat, Murphy and Collins being effusive in their respect for Davis.

    Helton believes that Baker won’t have an issue building the types of bonds and earning the trust of his position room – having witnessed Baker’s ability during their time together.


    Western Kentucky coach Tyson Helton (Photo: © Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports, USA TODAY Sports)
    “Being in your early and mid 30’s is a great age for connecting with the guys because you’re not that far removed from being those guys’ ages, but you’ve been through some trials and tribulations yourself,” said Helton. “He makes you feel important but at the same time, he has full command of his room and sets very high expectations for his room and his players, I’ve always said your room is a direct reflection of you as a coach and he took that to heart and I think that’s why guys connect with him.”

    “Being in your early and mid 30’s is a great age for connecting with the guys because you’re not that far removed from being those guys’ ages, but you’ve been through some trials and tribulations yourself,” said Helton. “He makes you feel important but at the same time, he has full command of his room and sets very high expectations for his room and his players, I’ve always said your room is a direct reflection of you as a coach and he took that to heart and I think that’s why guys connect with him.”

    Baker assumes the final staff opening with winter workouts underway and a pivotal spring practice session looming as Texas looks to return to the College Football Playoff and capture the ultimate goal of winning a national championship.

    When closing his thoughts on Baker and reflecting on his career advancement, Helton affirmed his belief that Baker is ready for the task at hand.

    “I’m not surprised at all that he’s getting a job like Texas, he’s going to do a phenomenal job down there,” said Helton.

    Baker assumes the final staff opening with winter workouts underway and a pivotal spring practice session looming as Texas looks to return to the College Football Playoff and capture the ultimate goal of winning a national championship.

    When closing his thoughts on Baker and reflecting on his career advancement, Helton affirmed his belief that Baker is ready for the task at hand.

    “I’m not surprised at all that he’s getting a job like Texas, he’s going to do a phenomenal job down there,” said Helton.

     

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  10. 6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    He'll be back with a new handle in a day or two, and he'll be incapable of altering his posting style or behavior, so then we get the fun of sniffing him out repeatedly. Sort of like Carl. This is a gift. 

    My favorite part is the absolute refusal to acknowledge people calling him out for the bit, and I hope he continues to not acknowledge it if he comes back. The closest he's come was negging me once for calling out how stupid one of his posts was.

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  11. 10 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

    Outside of Archmania, it seems like Sarkisian likes to slow burn on the recruiting trail in terms of commits and top targets. That does not lend itself well to dozens of football board idiots coming in and derailing threads for 20 pages at a time when something big goes down. It also is not helpful that the 9.95 sites have switched to youtube content and Gerry has gone national. It negates all of satya and BO&Ws gut reactions that we get to dogpile. 1000 pages may be a bygone era of McRibs, spoilers on 9.95 info, and cat facts.   

    I think recruiting in general has just become a lot more "solved" than it was 5-10 years ago. There's not as much mystery and surprise as to where players are going to pick which leads to a lot less speculation and ideating of what direction the staff could go and overall discussion. Having looked at class predictions as they change from Spring to Fall it does feel like you can expect to know what the class will look like by September minus a few pieces. Plus you've lost 2 full months of discussion per class with ESD becoming the new signing day. 

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  12. 4 minutes ago, CaseMcCoyTruther said:

    Chip Kelly may be leaving UCLA for an NFL coordinator job (Seahawks according to Twitter rumors). Anybody on the Bruins roster that Texas may want to poach?

    He's not leaving the millions on the table he'll get for simply staying 1 more year and getting fired. 

  13. CJ bringing gas on Will Johnson as an option. Believe he's a Michigan legacy so I'm skeptical but I'll huff the hopium

    https://ontexasfootball.com/news/potential-next-route-for-portal-cb-r48/

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    Texas is still hot in pursuit of former Washington CB Jabbar Muhammad, however as Bobby mentioned earlier this afternoon, the Oregon Ducks are positioned to take the pole position with Muhammad now in Eugene.

    Now, if Muhammad does decide to join the Ducks, there is another name from another program to keep an eye on.

    Jim Harbaugh is reportedly headed to Los Angeles today for a 2nd in-person interview with the Chargers. A deal is within "strikiing distance" per Zach Barnett of FootballScoop.

    Should Harbaugh depart, a name passed on to me to keep an eye on in regards to a possible portal entry is CB Will Johnson. 

    Johnson was the Defensive MVP of the National Title game a former five-star prospect out of Grosse Pointe, Michigan.

     

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  14. 6 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

    Bobby reporting at the new site Muhammad is leaning Oregon

    https://ontexasfootball.com/forums/topic/90-update-on-jabbar-muhammad-tuesday-1219pm/#comment-825

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    Sources tell On Texas Football that Jabbar Muhammad is likely favoring Oregon at this moment. Muhammad, a Washington transfer and second-team All-Pac 12 selection in 2023, visited Texas last week. He then visited Alabama over the weekend.

    But Oregon is expected to host him this week and the Ducks have gone from a major player in this recruitment to his potential leader.

    Muhammad is expected to make a decision by no later than Jan. 30.

    The Longhorns have already inked eight players in the NCAA transfer portal, the latest coming earlier today from Tiaoalii Savea, a 6-foot-4, 305-pound defensive tackle from Arizona.

     

    Seemed inevitable given the lack of sunshine from Bama and the no guaranteed snaps here

     

    Side-note: @immamac is there a best practice for supporting the OTF site when cross-posting news? I try to link to stuff like the Athletic etc because I know the clicks do matter. Maybe posting the link can embed in some way? 

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