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  1. 1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

    Well, you were replying to me, which is the only reason I came back to this thread. She shouldn't have traveled with the vape cartridge. She also shouldn't have been charged with intent to distribute. The US should make all reasonable attempts to get her home, although I'm uncertain as to what reasonable entails. I know it doesn't mean every option is on the table. It also doesn't mean she should be allowed to rot in jail with no effort at securing her release.

    I'm not disagreeing with you that she shouldn't be overcharged, if that's the case. And I don't know what the criteria is for charging someone with intent to distribute in Russia. If she only had a single vape pen/cartidge, then yes that seems ridiculous. I'm also not saying she should rot in jail. She should be treated fairly as per the laws of the land in which she committed the crime, period.

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  2. 58 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

     

    So your friend with the 5+ years felony probation is the equivalent of Griner being charged with intent to distribute and given 10 years in prison?

    "I don't think she should be used as a political tool for Putin, but rather be treated like anyone else."

    So which is it? Is she being treated as a political tool, or is she being treated like everyone else?

    I guess you're not even trying to understand what I'm saying. I don't think BG should be treated ANY differently than anyone else would be. So if her charges have been unfairly upgraded, then no I don't agree with that. I was countering the group-think that what she did is "no big deal" or that she "wouldn't be charged with a serious crime" in the US. Again, in most of the United States, what she did is a felony.

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  3. 4 hours ago, SL Xpress said:


    This whole thing has become another example of the polarization of this country. You’re either part of a tribe that says, “fuck her, let her rot in jail for 10 years for pleading guilty under duress to an intent to distribute charge. It’s obvious she was carrying less than a gram of THC in a vape cartridge because she wanted to become the new Russian El Chapo. It’s ridiculous anything special is even being done for her.”

    Or, “nothing is more important to the conscience of this country than our precious Britney. We should be willing to give up our sovereignty if that’s what it takes to get her out of there. What is Biden doing? If this was Stephon Curry you know he’d be out already.”

    It’s just more virtue signaling. Someone’s position on this issue has become another short hand for where they stand on a whole phalanx of issues. 

    It’s a bummer people can’t seem to take middle grounds any more. She doesn’t deserve the treatment she’s getting. But neither does Paul Whelan. And a message for the kids at home. Don’t go to Russia. It’s not a safe country for Americans. 

    I'm a registered independent and my opinion on this has nothing to do with my politics. I'm pro marijuana/thc but I also think the law should be applied fairly, regardless of your celebrity status. All of the hypotheticals proposed in this thread are frankly stupid.

    As a regular traveler to Russia, she knew the law regarding vape cartridges and she chose to take the risk and she came up on the wrong end. I don't think she should be used as a political tool for Putin, but rather be treated like anyone else. 

    Manufactured products containing thc are a felony here in most of the US, and unless you don't consider a felony to be big deal you should be very careful about transporting them. I have an acquaintance(white chick) on 5+ years felony probation for a single thc vape pen that was found in her car on a routine traffic stop. She fucked around and found out just like Britney Griner did.

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  4. Just now, Degenerate Gardner said:

    Lulz on “standard penalty”. It’s a sliding scale bro, and there’s but one arbiter

    I didn't say there wasn't, Forrest. Let me try again just for you. Whatever sentence any average regular person in Russia would get, that's what she should get.  No more, no less. 

  5. On 7/8/2022 at 9:52 AM, Js1 said:

    If it was Tom Brady and not Britney Griner, this would be playing out much differently. 

    Not really. Tom Brady has much more trade value

  6. On 7/7/2022 at 10:55 PM, SL Xpress said:


    I don’t know if I’m a part of the victim brigade or not. I think she’s in a shitty situation, along with Paul Whelan and Marc Fogel, that’s borne more out of Russia’s desire to collect chits to use in negotiations with the US as well as to demonstrate to everyone internally and externally who has the real power in Russia (it ain’t the oligarchs, except in cases where they’re also high ranking state security) than to enforce its own laws. 

    I have no sympathy for WNBA player salaries, which is already subsidized above market value by the NBA and the force feeding of TV coverage with ratings below what other content with equal or less exposure receive. 

    I’m a huge women’s volleyball fan, almost exclusively due to UT’s success in the sport, and you see a similar dynamic in that community. A metaphorical “think of the children” dynamic that top US volleyball players are “forced” to play overseas to earn a living wage. To me they should be grateful there’s somewhere people are willing to pay to watch them play, even if it’s not the US. There’s not a pro volleyball league paying a living wage in the US because there’s not an audience for it.
     

    The WNBA players are able to earn a high salary compared to other industries. Comparing them to what the men make is a false dichotomy. If we paid people based on the level of effort a job required tenant farm workers would be our new billionaires. That’s not how a sustainable economy operates. That’s not about capitalism. That’s true of an ancient barter system. There has to be perceived worth involved. 

    As far as Griner and the other US hostages, there’s a wide range of actions the US can pursue, from absolutely nothing to stopping the shipment of military equipment to Ukraine and lifting the embargoes to achieve their return. Something in between those two seems to be the correct option, but where it falls on the spectrum is a political choice of the Biden administration and won’t be settled on this board, or by a multitude of change.org postings. 

    But talking about how stupid she is and how much she deserves this is simply about making yourself feel like a better person because you didn’t travel to Russia with a vape cartridge. 

    She isn't a hostage and she was stupid AND she does deserve whatever the standard penalty is for that offense in Russia. She fucking knew better and that's really all there is to it. She will get out when she has served her time.  Or we could trade her for Lebron. I would be ok with that

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  7. 13 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

    We didn’t dodge a bullet.  We lost a valuable asset for nothing in return, and when you are already over the cap it is difficult to replace that asset.  See Golden State doing the sign and trade for DLo when Kd left, and then flipping him for Wiggins and a lottery pick.

    Exactly this. If Cuban had signed JB when he was willing to take what DFS signed for, then we would've had a tradeable asset whether we wanted to keep Brunson or not. The whole thing couldn't have been handled worse if they were trying. Just stupid

  8. 23 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

    we're watching different games then.  his second game was bad.  so was his third game last night.  4-15 in each of those games.  he's a turnover machine from a combination of bad handles and poor decision making.  he has the skill and natural athleticism to contribute in the nba but he is far from that level. 

    Ok Debbie Downer

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