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  1. 4 minutes ago, SKJ said:

    There is no substantial information in your post.

    Do YOU even cold war, bro?

    The nation ATTACKED the United States. Who gives a fuck how many diplomats we, or they, have in each other's country?

    Our moron in Chief is too busy selling our country to Russians. I'd say we get that sorted, then worry about some fucking diplomats

    can you honestly say that if trump had permanently reduced the number of russian diplomats down to 395 and then the state department had complained to the media that this resulted in a critical shortage of us staff in russia when the russians mirrored that, that you wouldn't call trump an idiot for that too?

    my point is you hear a superficial poorly researched story and you jump to the conclusion it supports your bias against trump.  now you are invested in that take and digging in to defend that position when you do not have a fucking clue whether it was a good decision or a bad one by trump.  that is exactly what fake news is intended to do.  what's the difference?

    i have zero idea why trump didn't reduce the number permanently.  perhaps it was a fuck up.  my point is that with 5 minutes of research and i can find context to that story that was not being reported.   i don't trust the media to tell me the whole story, and i wait before i jump.  you shouldn't either.  whether it is deliberate spin or the product of the shrinking resources available to news outlets and the credulous kids writing stories today, the news we hear today is shit. 

     

     

     

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  2. 2 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

    I really don't give a flying fuck who it is.  But obvious bot is obvious.  We've had years of experience sussing them out.  Best to ignore and move on. 

    and yet you have no idea what the chad fuck you are talking about.  no socks.  no shaggy history except under this username.  sometimes a lurker is just a lurker.

     

     

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  3. 3 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

    i would think the bolded part in his post is a dead give away where his allegiance lies...and it ain't with the USA.

    go back to what is left of shaggy.  i registered in about 2012 and lurked before that.  you can check my posts.  if i am a russian bot i must be a sleeper bot recently activated.

     

  4. 5 minutes ago, SKJ said:
    9 minutes ago, krutov said:
    i'm going to go ahead and guess you have zero idea how many diplomats the united states needs in russia in order to serve and protect your nation's interest.  for reference though, apparently the obama administration thought that number was 1210  but now there are 455.
    and do you even cold war bro?  this is par for the course.
     

    You do understand that it's about time to stop giving a fuck about Russia, right? Of course you don't... You're probably a bitch-ass Russian.

    i do understand you have no answer to the substance of what i said so you're going ad hominem

     

  5. 5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    What does "of national standing" even mean? There were about 400 journalists, policy talking heads, and various other randos on an e-mail list. They argued about how to cover things. Some tried to convince others to cover things certain ways. These are the exact same conversations journalists and everyone else have all the time.

    The journolist scandal boils down to: "Liberals are talking to each other!"

    The only actual problem was that it was full of lazy thinkers who purposefully cultivate a thought protection bubble, but we're talking about op-ed writers for liberal magazines. It's like finding out that Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity talk to each other sometimes, "OH MY GOD!!!"

    And no, it's not fucking worse than a massive corporation forcing journalists to read off a centralized script.

    let's just say that's a rather charitable characterization of the journolist story, and leave it at that.

    as for the sinclair story, it depends on the script.  the script in question was an apolitical editorial statement by the organization.  sort of like putting "democracy dies in darkness" on your banner when a republican gets elected: it betrays a partisan leaning but still commits to telling the truth.   pretty much all you can ask of a news organization.

    just an fyi that i mostly lurked on shaggy for over five years.  i am posting now because i cannot believe how full of shit the hugo gang has become since the transfer.  as much as i disagree with most of what you say, i don't put you in that category, but i do put that post in that category.

     

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  6. 6 hours ago, SKJ said:

    I'm going to go ahead and guess you don't understand why we would reduce the number of Russian "diplomats" in our country

    i'm going to go ahead and guess you have zero idea how many diplomats the united states needs in russia in order to serve and protect your nation's interest.  for reference though, apparently the obama administration thought that number was 1210  but now there are 455.

    and do you even cold war bro?  this is par for the course.

     

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  7. 2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

    Journolist was basically friends talking to each other, completely free to either stay on message or not. What's happening here are corporate overlords forcing employees to read a script and pretend it's genuine.

    They're extremely different.

    uh, they were journalists and editors of national standing discussing how to shape and present facts in a coordinated fashion for partisan effect.

    which is 10,000 times worse than a trite self-serving blurb devoid on any actual content given to a bunch of ron burgundys to read out on their local news broadcasts.  you think the folks reporting on local tv news are shaping the national conversation?

     

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  8. 8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

    This.  If you don't conclude that this is tinpot dictator bullshit, you are a lost fucking cause.

    The president of the fucking United States.  Attacking the fucking THIRD LARGEST AMERICAN COMPANY BY MARKET CAP, taking down that market cap by BILLIONS of dollars (billions of dollars that USED to be part of the net worth of the American people who hold stocks, 401ks, etc.).

    If Obama did this, the Trumpkins' heads would explode.  But their orange god does it, and it's just fine.  Because the orange god did it.  QED.

    For fuck's sake, people.  This admin is so far off the rails, we can't even see the tracks from where it stands.

    funny you should mention rails.  how do you feel about john sherman making statements like this? 

    "If we will not endure a king as a political power we should not endure a king over the production, transportation, and sale of any of the necessaries of life."

    i bet union pacific shareholders took a beating. 

     

     

  9. 4 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

    this is the stupidest administration ever 

     

    no, it's the stupidest media ever.  zero memory, analysis or context before running with a story.  and twitter feeding the outrage hungry just makes it stupider. 

    five minutes of googling reveals that when obama expelled 35 diplomats last year he also permanently reduced the russian diplomatic mission to 455.  the russians eventually retaliated by expelling 755 us diplomats to get the us number down to 455 also.  i am not a journalist or anything, but, i guess that move by obama backfired for america.  and i guess maybe the us diplomats in russia do not want to go down to 395.  just a guess though.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/03/russia-us-diplomats-expulsions/556985/

     

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    7 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

    yeah, this is super troubling. the consolidation happening in the media world is a bit scary.

    seriously?  sinclair is an old fashioned third rate broadcast group straight out of the 70s.  local tv stations have been using lame packaged content like that for decades.  how is that concerning to anyone? 

  11. On 3/27/2018 at 3:44 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

     

    can you explain how that is not a false equivalency?  greenburg is complaining about what he alleges is a pattern of corrections in a particular direction.  he's not complaining about the fact media make mistakes and issue corrections.  he's also complaining about a much bigger and fundamental error in a story by cnn compared to the error in his publication.

    i see no double standard.  explain it to me.

     

  12. On 3/31/2018 at 5:35 PM, atomheartbevo said:

    Here’s the script they are being forced to read (with regional variables). 

    https://thinkprogress.org/sinclair-forces-reporters-to-read-script-about-fake-news-63ae6fcea30e/

    All the Trumpkins need to shut the fuck up about media bias. If 200 stations came out defending Obama with basically the same script, they’d be shitting themselves and lying on the ground in the fetal position. 

    But at least we know what stations not to watch. 

    can you explain how that script defends trump or is inaccurate?  those stations may or may not be pro-trump in content, but the script you are complaining about appears to be 100% accurate and apolitical. 

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