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  1. On 3/26/2018 at 2:04 PM, Beau Vine said:

    84: Former LSU HC Les Miles

    “Hire Les Miles! This is your opportunity to save face and end this wild week on a high note! He'll probably take it!” 

    I've gotta say, that's the first time in 15 years I've seen "Les Miles," "save face," and "high note" used in the same line.

  2. 6 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

    Shouting down occurs on both sides.  For example I hear anger at evolution.

    If I had a kid they'd lear what scientists have to say about evolution and what Christian fundamentalists have to say about creationism.  You don't have to believe anything.

    That's a terrible example. There's scientific evidence that supports evolution. No such evidence exists for creationism. Those are not "two competing theories" and it's not a matter of "belief" either. One is a fact and one isn't. They cannot both be right. What you're talking about is opinion, which are things like "blue is the best color" and "steak tastes better than lobster." There's no right or wrong answer to those. Evolution? Yes, there's a right and a wrong answer. I know that hurts people's personal feelings, but personal feelings do not change facts. It's the same as the Flat Earth Theory. Those are not two competing "theories." The Flat Earth is a flat out fraud. Period.

    6 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

    Across the board, I believe in understanding the views of various parties in controversial topics

    I would agree to a limited extent. When people propose views that have no basis in reality, there's no reason to "understand" shit about them. I'm not going to try to understand a person who things that NASA is an organization that's dedicated to the suppression of the "fact" that the Earth is propped up in outer space by 1,001 giant space turtles.

    6 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

       I don't support being forced to listen to anybody.  I'll pick an advocate who is polite (reading versus listening accomplishes this) and knowledgeable.

    What does "polite" have to do with it? The only thing that matters is "is what this person saying true or false?" There's an old proverb that says of a pathological liar "he would rather climb the tallest tree in the forest and tell a lie than to stand on the ground and tell the truth." This is somewhat related. I'd rather listen to the rudest motherfucker on Planet Earth speak accurately than to the politest motherfucker on Planet Earth tell lies and fairy tales.

    6 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

    There are some ideas which should not be permitted to be expressed.  Our laws do an excellent job of defining what these are.  If your personal behavior deviates very far from the law in what kind of speech you think should be permitted you have a problem. 

    You're talking about two different things. Behavior and expression of ideas are in no way the same.

  3. 24 minutes ago, bernorange said:

    There is a difference between negative feedback and censorship.

    And certain people don't know what that difference is. For example, and I'm not at all sorry if I trigger a few people with this, but if one wants to argue (since we're talking about him) that Milo getting disinvited to speak at Berkeley was a violation of his 1st Amendment rights/protections, one has already lost the argument. It's very well to talk about the differences between negative feedback and censorship, but I'm not even going to pretend to pay attention to anyone who makes the distinction based on which political ideology the speaker is representing. 

  4. 16 minutes ago, Caddox said:

    I agree with all of this, but you have to actually debate that person. You can’t use violence or force to prevent the person’s ideas from getting out there. If they’re bad ideas that will come out in the discussion.

    Milo is a perfect example. He’s a self promoting provocateur. Well kids need to know what that is, and why he is doing that. Once they know why he is there it will properly frame the conversation. But turning him into some symbol of hatred is making him something he isn’t and creates curiosity behind what he is saying that isn’t really consistent with why he is saying it. 

    I don't disagree with any of this, except for the part about Milo. Milo isn't a provocateur. Milo is a troll. A provocateur is someone who inspires or, provokes (SWIDT?) a discussion on an issue that isn't often discussed. A troll is someone who just says shit to piss people off/push their buttons. Milo does the latter. He even admits to being self loathing due to his gayness. But yeah, I agree that the answer to deal with even a troll (much less a provocateur) isn't to beat their ass.

  5. 22 hours ago, FondrenRoad said:

    Yes, but I also read what you wrote.

    "I think the idea that shouting down people with views you don't share or attacking them personally is horrendous.  I do not feel threatened by opposing views and don't understand why others do."

    It seems like you don't want an aggressive response when it comes to your viewpoint.  "Shouting down" someone isn't the same as shutting them up.  If you think your view has merit, shout back.  If everyone seems to be shouting down your views, perhaps you should actually take a hard look at your views and first, make sure that you truly believe them, and second, understand why those "shouting you down" feel the way they do.  What you want is for people to be required to sit and listen to your viewpoint.  You want a safe space.  However, when you say something like "a woman's place is in the home and the kitchen," most women, and many men, are gonna tell you to "fuck off." 

    The article itself is fine.

    100% this. Politics isn't a part of a person's little ghetto/cult. When you articulate publicly just about any view, you're going to have to deal with public opinion, to the extent anyone is listening to/reading you. If you cannot handle the negative feedback, you should retreat to your cult/ghetto and stop pretending like you have anything to say publicly. Yeah, Milo can speak and I think even the most left-of-center should go listen to him, but the tradeoff is that Milo has to suffer their questions/comments to the extent that they're valid against his insipid horseshit. If the speaker sets up a filter to where he only gets positive feedback directed at him/her, fuck them. They don't belong. They've proven themselves to be soft, numbskulled, indoctrinated buffoons that can certainly read canned talking points, but they cannot defend them. If you can't defend what you're saying, what the hell are you trying to do? 

  6. 10 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

    This is the least exciting mania buildup in a long time in my opinion..  What’s with not bringing out Undertaker yet to build up a match that is in two weeks, dumb.

    Possibly because he won't face him in a match, Cena will have to settle for someone else, and then Taker will do a run-in during that match. It's funny because I mentioned Cornette earlier and he's long speculated that Taker will, at some point (and maybe he's already there) act not as a competitor but as a specter that looms over Wrestlemania given his run of dominance for so long. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he spent a few years doing exactly that: fucking with other guys who call him out, they end up losing their matches, and Taker basically cuts a promo stating "even in death, people still lose when they challenge the Undertaker at Wrestlemania."

  7. 3 minutes ago, Clearlakehorn said:

    This is correct. Trump is an upstanding member of society and a billionaire who knows how to run this country. I bet he didn't even know she was a porn star and just met her to give an autograph and she's making up this whole story now as a money grab. 

     

    There's nothing believable at all about her story. Not like the Clinton Foundation murders what are Bill and Hillary saw to it that Foster and others were slain In Cold Blood while Chelsea watched. What is the investigation for that?

    It's funny because this is actually less stupid than the actual clear_lake_horn

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  8. 23 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

    Red leader....slugga, assume you'll not be posting after you get Randy Allen's gig?

    Don't want it. I want Kevin Kelley to have it. I'd be glad to join his staff, however. I mean seriously, who wouldn't want to be a part of that renegade madness?

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