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  1. 50 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

    The Texas DL is more required to be quick (especially laterally, but also upfield in a hurry)

    That's a good strategy when facing a finesse team looking to spread the field horizontally and vertically while using RPOs and misdirection. 

    That's not Georgia football though.  They're gonna run it right at you and dare you to stop it even though you know it's coming. That takes a different type of DL to stop it. 

  2. 18 minutes ago, Constant said:

    It’s a start, but UGA still played Austin Peay and UMASS this year alone. The November SEC vs. FCS bye-week is bullshit. 

    Maybe. It does suck from a fan perspective, but it does help the team to rest and heal up late in the season. Nothing is stopping other conferences from following suit. 

     

  3. 14 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    As game 1?

    Exact dates aren't set yet for seasons past '19. That being said, at least two of them will be game 1 (Virginia and Oregon).

    CORRECTION- They all do seem to be opening games other than ND

  4. 7 minutes ago, Constant said:

    I agree with that. I don’t think they classify as ‘decent’ though. On the whole, Texas non-con schedules are much more difficult than any given SEC team, though. 

    UGA has scheduled home and homes with ND (2nd one is next year), Clemson, Texas, and UCLA. One offs with Virginia and Oregon. Working on it. 

  5. 6 hours ago, Treefidy said:

    Austin Peay 

    SCar

    middle Tennessee

    Mizzou

    Tenn

    Vandy

    LSU

    UF

    UK

    Barn

    Umass

    GT

    Thats a season long murderers row I tell you.  2.5 respectable teams, the rest are meh to just terrible 

    I would bet pretty big we end with 1-2 losses playing that schedule this year.

     

    Well, you wouldn't have played the juggernaut called Maryland, so that's one less loss there. 

    😈

  6. On 10/8/2018 at 4:26 PM, sushihorn said:

    For the SEC and B1G teams Herman's offense will not require much adjustment except in detail.  It has many similarities to what OhSt has been running or for that matter to what Alabama is moving towards.  Herman's offensive scheme won't give Texas any systemic advantage against them.  By the same token, the Texas D will be well prepared to face offenses that look like what they see in practice.

    The primary impact here is on Big XII match ups since spread passing has become the dominant form of offense - especially among the better teams.

     

    On 10/8/2018 at 5:45 PM, sushihorn said:

    That's fair to the extent we are talking about top teams.  But they do see this type of attack in the SEC with MSU and (as you point out) Auburn.  The other members of the SEC at least see power run based spread and have defenses designed to stop power running if not run spread per se.  They require less adjustment to defend Texas than a defense playing a base nickel that is effectively a dime defense with a DB at SAM.

     

    On 10/8/2018 at 6:01 PM, sushihorn said:

    Absolutely.  Seeking contact and punishing defenders is an important part of what Herman is doing.  That really shows results after 3 quarters of pounding if you can sustain drives.  I think of OU's offense as Aikido and Texas as Krav Maga

    Thanks for the timely bump. I feel this is a very candid assessment of how a smashmouth spead could fare against a team like UGA. 

  7. 3 hours ago, So_co said:

    One thing Auburn and LSU do have is a stud DL. That was a big reason for being able to slow Georgia's offense.

    To illustrate my point:  

    LSU DL:

    DE 97 Glen Logan 6-4 297 So.

    NT 91 Breiden Fehoko 6-4 291 Jr.

    DE 90 Rashard Lawrence 6-3 317 Jr.

     

    Auburn DL;

    Buck 91 NICK COE (6-5, 282, So.)

    DT 95 DONTAVIUS RUSSELL (6-3, 320, Sr.)

    DT 5 DERRICK BROWN (6-5, 320, Jr.)

    DE 3 MARLON DAVIDSON (6-3, 278, Jr.)

     

    Texas DL:

    DE 44 Breckyn Hager Sr. 6-3 255

    NT 97 Chris Nelson Sr. 6-1 315

    DE 90 Charles Omenihu Sr. 6-6 275

     

    UGA OL:

    LT 71 Andrew Thomas (6-5, 320, So.)

    LG 66 Solomon Kindley (6-6, 335, RSo.)

    C 53 Lamont Gaillard (6-2, 308, Sr.)

    RG 77 Cade Mays (6-6, 318, Fr.)

    RT 79 Isaiah Wilson (6-7, 340, RFr.)

  8. 14 minutes ago, kopp0e said:

    Texas has a very physical & aggressive defense, that can impose it's will, I look for the team to do the same vs UGA... 

    One question. Do you think #44 would be starting on the DL of either LSU or Auburn?

    I like that Texas' philosophy is a physical brand of football.  UGA loves physical football, and won't back down from a battle. 

  9. 15 minutes ago, sushihorn said:

    Just don't give them multiple short-filed opportunities.  Make them drive the length of the field.  Auburn basically did that and Georgia scored 27 on them.  Some will argue that LSU has a better defense than Texas.  Pretty tough to make that case for Auburn.

    One thing Auburn and LSU do have is a stud DL. That was a big reason for being able to slow Georgia's offense.

  10. 12 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

    What are his measurables? We'll more than likely target the smallest DB all day long. That's our equivalent of a power running game -- burly WRs pushing around smaller DBs.

    Here are the two likely starters:


    27 Eric Stokes (6-1, 185, RFr.)

    3 Tyson Campbell (6-2, 185, Fr.)

     

    Both guys are fast as fuck.  They were both 100m guys in HS and both have PRs of 10.39.  Stokes has really shown a knack for playing instinctive football. Campbell ....... not so much.

    In contrast, Baker was only 5-11, but was easily the best CB to come through UGA since Champ Bailey.  

  11. Former 5-star Tyson Campbell will most likely be his replacement.  Here's a good summary of how his season has gone:

    "It’s been a pretty normal freshman season for Tyson Campbell. Like a lot of true freshmen who come in and start on day one, there have been some rough moments. With Deandre Baker shutting down his side of the field, opposing teams have targeted Campbell all season as the weak link in an otherwise solid secondary.

    When put under that spotlight, Campbell has struggled at times. One thing you can say about his play is that he is almost always in a position to make a play on the ball. His raw physical talent stands out and he’s very rarely flat-footed or out of position. What he does seem to struggle with however is the instincts to make a play at the right time. That has led to several big plays but more importantly, it’s also led to quite a lot of pass interference calls."

    You guys should target him all day long.  He's a walking, talking PI penalty if he doesn't have a complete and total blown coverage beforehand.  

  12. 5 minutes ago, thrillhammer said:

    i'm shocked your coaching staff is even letting fields practice.  if you announce your leaving the team you might as well pack your locker.  

    Two main reasons for that. 

    One is we don't have another scholarship QB.  Started the season with only two on the roster and luckily made it through with no injuries.

    Second reason is I think we are still trying to convince him to stay.  It's a long-shot, but I don't think the coaching staff wants to burn the bridge.  

     

    With that being said, the old school coach in my head is screaming get that joker outta here if he doesn't want to be a part of the team then GTFO! 

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  13. 8 minutes ago, thrillhammer said:

    any other big losses for this game on your side?  transfers, injuries, early draft enrollees, etc?

    One big loss on the injury front is possible. #99 Jordan Davis was missing from practice due to a rumored back injury. He's a true FR who started to see a lot of playing time at Nose after the LSU loss.  We'll probably find out more today when beat reporters ask Kirby about it in New Orleans. 

    One other injury to a third string RB, James Cook, and a possible transfer in a backup TE are not much of a concern. 

    Of course, there is also the distraction of QB Justin Fields transferring. It's said he's been giving 100% at practice in prep for the game, but I'd rather not see much of him during the game. 

    Also, as of now, no draft eligible JRs have declared, so at least there's that. 

    How about at UT?

  14. Because I was bored and wanted to dig a little deeper, here are all of the WRs from the SEC and then the Big 12 that have earned stats in the NFL this year so far.  The data had Rec and Targets, so I calculated the catch percentage to see if one league or the other caught the ball better in general.  With 62.2% for the SEC and 63.1% for the Big 12 it looks to be pretty much the same.  For those that want to know the total number of WRs it's 41 for the SEC and 22 for the Big 12.

     

    Player College Rec Targets Catch % Yards Yards/Catch TDs
    Julio Jones Alabama 100 152 65.8% 1511 15.11 6
    Amari Cooper Alabama 66 91 72.5% 953 14.44 7
    Calvin Ridley Alabama 56 82 68.3% 699 12.48 8
    Robert Foster Alabama 19 33 57.6% 468 24.63 2
    Gehrig Dieter Alabama 0 1 0.0% 0 0 0
    Odell Beckham LSU 77 124 62.1% 1052 13.66 6
    Jarvis Landry LSU 72 132 54.5% 827 11.49 3
    D.J. Chark LSU 14 30 46.7% 174 12.43 0
    Brandon LaFell LSU 12 16 75.0% 135 11.25 2
    Russell Shepard LSU 10 19 52.6% 188 18.8 2
    Russell Gage LSU 4 6 66.7% 49 12.25 0
    Mike Evans Texas A&M 74 120 61.7% 1328 17.95 5
    Christian Kirk Texas A&M 43 68 63.2% 590 13.72 3
    Josh Reynolds Texas A&M 23 44 52.3% 303 13.17 3
    Damion Ratley Texas A&M 13 20 65.0% 144 11.08 0
    A.J. Green Georgia 46 77 59.7% 694 15.09 6
    Chris Conley Georgia 29 44 65.9% 280 9.66 5
    Isaiah McKenzie Georgia 18 23 78.3% 165 9.17 0
    Javon Wims Georgia 0 1 0.0% 0 0 0
    Donte Moncrief Mississippi 42 83 50.6% 604 14.38 3
    Laquon Treadwell Mississippi 34 51 66.7% 295 8.68 1
    Cody Core Mississippi 11 24 45.8% 124 11.27 1
    Mike Wallace Mississippi 0 3 0.0% 0 0 0
    Antonio Callaway Florida 39 71 54.9% 507 13 4
    Demarcus Robinson Florida 19 28 67.9% 182 9.58 2
    Deonte Thompson Florida 16 28 57.1% 150 9.38 0
    Brandon Powell Florida 4 6 66.7% 17 4.25 0
    Alshon Jeffery South Carolina 57 82 69.5% 702 12.32 5
    Bruce Ellington South Carolina 31 42 73.8% 224 7.23 1
    Damiere Byrd South Carolina 1 2 50.0% 8 8 0
    Pharoh Cooper South Carolina 0 1 0.0% 0 0 0
    Cordarrelle Patterson Tennessee 20 26 76.9% 244 12.2 3
    Justin Hunter Tennessee 3 13 23.1% 21 7 0
    Josh Malone Tennessee 1 4 25.0% 12 12 0
    Randall Cobb Kentucky 37 56 66.1% 356 9.62 2
    Jarius Wright Arkansas 31 43 72.1% 337 10.87 1
    Keon Hatcher Arkansas 1 2 50.0% 8 8 0
    Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt 18 25 72.0% 287 15.94 2
    Trent Sherfield Vanderbilt 11 18 61.1% 125 11.36 1
    Jimmie Coates Auburn 1 2 50.0% 12 12 0
    J'Mon Moore Missouri 1 1 100.0% 10 10 0
        1054 1694 62.2% 13785 10.8 84

     

    Player College Rec Targets Catch % Yards Yards/Catch TDs
    Dede Westbrook Oklahoma 57 87 65.5% 669 11.74 6
    Sterling Shepard Oklahoma 56 91 61.5% 692 12.36 4
    Kenny Stills Oklahoma 33 55 60.0% 521 15.79 6
    Danny Amendola Texas Tech 52 71 73.2% 509 9.79 1
    Michael Crabtree Texas Tech 51 94 54.3% 567 11.12 3
    Keke Coutee Texas Tech 28 41 68.3% 287 10.25 1
    Jakeem Grant Texas Tech 21 34 61.8% 268 12.76 2
    Cameron Batson Texas Tech 8 11 72.7% 82 10.25 0
    Derrick Willies Texas Tech 3 5 60.0% 61 20.33 0
    Tyler Lockett Kansas State 51 64 79.7% 800 15.69 9
    Jordy Nelson Kansas State 47 66 71.2% 586 12.47 3
    Marquise Goodwin Texas 20 35 57.1% 366 18.3 4
    Marcus Johnson Texas 6 8 75.0% 102 17 1
    Josh Doctson Texas Christian 39 68 57.4% 469 12.03 2
    Jeremy Kerley Texas Christian 2 4 50.0% 7 3.5 0
    Tavon Austin West Virginia 7 10 70.0% 130 18.57 2
    Kevin White West Virginia 3 5 60.0% 70 23.33 0
    Shelton Gibson West Virginia 1 3 33.3% 48 48 0
    Marcell Ateman Oklahoma State 14 28 50.0% 147 10.5 1
    James Washington Oklahoma State 13 33 39.4% 153 11.77 1
    Corey Coleman Baylor 5 7 71.4% 71 14.2 0
    Terrance Williams Baylor 2 3 66.7% 18 9 0
        519 823 63.1% 6623 14.9 46

     

     

  15. 45 minutes ago, sushihorn said:

    The NFL tends to love measurables and often values them over college production.  That will favor SEC teams, many of whom field guys who are better athletes than football players.  Specifically WRT to Georgia's WRs, none of them even appeared on the Belitnikoff Watch List.  It's not just MY opinion that they are not great receivers.  OTOH Nauta did appear on the Mackey watch list so my impressions from just watching the game were reasonably correlated with what knowledgeable people saw on both counts.

    True, but the Georgia offensive philosophy of running the ball first and spreading the ball evenly when passing doesn't really ever give an individual WR a chance to put up big numbers that catch the eyes of voters for these awards.  

    A valid argument could be made that the UGA WRs do deserve more credit than they are given on a national basis, but due to the offensive gameplan, they don't get said credit.

  16. Conclusions from the data:

    1. SEC WR production in the NFL is greater than Big 12 WR production in both total amount of production and on an average production by team basis.
    2. Alabama is by far the leader of the pack when it comes to WR production in the NFL, and it's not even close.

    Inferences from the data:

    1. If NFL production is any indication of WR ability, which I would argue is true, then SEC WRs look to deserve more credit in a general discussion than they may have received.  
    2. This data really doesn't mean jack shit for who will win on Jan 1st.  Just fun back and forth with opposing fans for me.

     

  17. Total points for the BIG 12 teams on the list and also the average number of points for the total number of teams in the conference even though not all are represented in the NFL

    Column1 College Total WRU Points Column2
    9 Oklahoma 446.6 BIG12
    12 Texas Tech 383.8 BIG12
    16 Kansas State 308.4 BIG12
    47 Texas 106.8 BIG12
    49 Texas Christian 97.9 BIG12
    69 West Virginia 59.3 BIG12
    71 Oklahoma State 57.3 BIG12
    85 Baylor 15.9 BIG12
        1476 147.6

     

    Total points for the BIG 12 teams on the list and also the average number of points for the total number of teams in the conference even though not all are represented in the NFL

    Column1 College Total WRU Points Column2
    2 Alabama 744.7 SEC
    5 LSU 528.2 SEC
    7 Texas A&M 452.8 SEC
    17 Georgia 301.5 SEC
    23 Mississippi 219.3 SEC
    27 Florida 202.4 SEC
    28 South Carolina 195.6 SEC
    42 Tennessee 124.9 SEC
    56 Kentucky 82 SEC
    59 Arkansas 78.4 SEC
    60 Vanderbilt 77.7 SEC
    95 Auburn 2.2 SEC
    97 Missouri 2 SEC
        3011.7 215.1

     

     

     

  18. So, I found a site that will help bring some clarity to this discussion.  It's run by a database guy that has a youtube channel that's worth a watch and he recently branched out and created this site that constantly updates NFL stats and he pulls them out by college and also by position group.  Here's the top 50 as a teaser.  I'm breaking it down by Big 12 vs. SEC and will update soon.  

    SOURCE:  http://collegefootballnerds.com/NFLStats/WRU

    Scoring Methodology

    1 Reception 1 Point
    10 Receiving Yards 1 Point
    1 Receiving TD 6 Points
    1 Rushing Attempt 1 Point
    10 Rushing Yards 1 Point
    1 Rushing TD 6 Points

     

      College Total WRU Points
    1 Clemson 860.3
    2 Alabama 744.7
    3 USC 618.5
    4 California 577.6
    5 LSU 528.2
    6 Southern Methodist 513.8
    7 Texas A&M 452.8
    8 Maryland 447.5
    9 Oklahoma 446.6
    10 Ohio State 437.4
    11 West Alabama 403.1
    12 Texas Tech 383.8
    13 Pittsburgh 368.2
    14 Notre Dame 347.8
    15 Penn State 329.2
    16 Kansas State 308.4
    17 Georgia 301.5
    18 Fresno State 295.4
    19 Minnesota State 290.3
    20 Washington 268.4
    21 Central Michigan 264.3
    22 Eastern Washington 222
    23 Mississippi 219.3
    24 Northern Illinois 212.7
    25 Florida International 210.1
    26 Oregon State 205.9
    27 Florida 202.4
    28 South Carolina 195.6
    29 Utah 184.5
    30 Western Michigan 171.2
    31 East Carolina 164
    32 Colorado State 163
    33 Temple 162.3
    34 Miami (Fla.) 160.2
    35 Kent State 157.4
    36 Rutgers 155.7
    37 Georgia Tech 150
    38 Abilene Christian 145.2
    39 Pittsburg State 140.5
    40 Western Oregon 133.3
    41 Ball State 131.9
    42 Tennessee 124.9
    43 Central Florida 124.7
    44 Michigan 119.2
    45 Grambling State 117.8
    46 Memphis 110.4
    47 Texas 106.8
    48 Georgia State 98.7
    49 Texas Christian 97.9
    50 East Central (OK) 94.8

     

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