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Posts posted by UpperWestside
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7 hours ago, Js1 said:
Leading from behind, as usual
Also that’s a what’s in it for me if I don’t try to pass legislation making it even harder to run an athletic program from that congressman. Just an attempt to grift.
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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:
Except attention, money, at-bats, learning to win, etc. And she gains the same from him.
Not picking on you because that’s the conventional wisdom, but let me turn the idea around- why would a compelling, high contrast race between two good candidates who are very different from each other be bad?
I feel like I already answered this, but I’ll try and restate it with more words. I do not, in theory, think it is ever a bad idea to have this in a time of normalcy where you have a modicum of decorum etc. These are not normal times. Every single day he is not out canvassing the state presenting to voters in Texas his ideas for how to attempt to right a ship that’s leaning heavily towards sinking is a day wasted. You want to hold this contested primary in a time where contrasting two candidates and their ideas matter is different than the current landscape of combatting fascism that now has a fairly firm grip on Texas. Time is of the essence in attempting to fight back. Talarico is, and I think this will hold true, the right sex and color for that state. I find that abhorrent because I’d personally rather vote for women of color almost all of the time. I was able to vote for AOC once when I lived in her district. Talarico will be able to talk to people who normally do not want to hear one of those evil libtards because of how he looks and that he’s a man. It’s not right, but it is what it is.
I also happen to like Congresswoman Crockett quite a bit. Her and AOC are two that I enjoy listening to. She just is not going to win a statewide race in fascist Texas. I want ideas to matter and I want to hear a diverse array of them. I won’t agree with every single thing a Democratic candidate thinks or says, but I want to hear their ideas in a normal time. This just is not it.
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20 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:
Great points and totally valid about cutting research.
However, the Time of London has one of, and possibly the most highly regarded metric for world university rankings in the world. For their 2026 rankings, the US, as usual, has 7 of the top 10 universities in the world, and 13 of the top 20, as well as over 50% of the top 100. That is a fact.
My point is that we always complain and think everything is at its most terrible.
Do we have a lot of dumb, anti-education morons in this country? Hell yes. Do we have a crazy weird world of college sports? For sure. Do we have the most and best universities in the world. Also true.
I am looking at a country destroying public school education right now and that has no political stripe because New York is gutting their public schools in favor of charter schools the same as Texas is and those two states are polar opposites on most everything else. The results of this will not be seen until 15-20 years down the road.
The United States has world class universities because the world has been coming to the United Staes to get educated because we used to believe that’s a good thing. Invite the world to come here to get educated and if you have something valuable to add to America we wanted these people to stay and work here. The last decade has shown that is no longer the case. When you actively scare off great professors and foreign students it has an effect and it’s one that will show up down the road. I use history as a guide on almost everything and history says what’s happening now will not end well for higher education.
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7 minutes ago, LCHorn said:
Who would you rather he be facing in the primary?I just clearly stated my position on this.
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6 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:
I’m glad she’s running. Primaries are good. If Talarico can beat her he’ll be in a much stronger position against whoever.
I feel primary challengers are good in normal times and in states that are not like Texas. Talarico gains nothing by having to make his case against Congresswoman Crockett.
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1 hour ago, Deej said:
The academic side.
Yep. It sucks. A fairly decent portion of American society would rather field a great football or basketball team rather than invest money into students who are struggling to make it through school. It’s embarrassing how little we care about academics in the US as a whole.
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8 minutes ago, ButtFumble said:
https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances
https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/104151
it is hard to talk shit about Utah being broke with that going on
bad news champ....ASU subsidizes their athletics with $19 million+ in academic side funds
over the last 20 years the academic side subsidy for ASU has been at least $10 million per year with the exception of two years when it was $8 and $9 million and for the last 10 years it has not been less than $10 million and in 2022 it was $75 million (da covids)
I don’t know what you want me to say about ASU being in the negative as well. There’s only a select few schools turning a profit. I don’t think that’s news to anyone here. I think I already said more schools are going to do this. If ASU folded up the entire athletic program it wouldn’t have any tangible effect on me. It’s just entertainment. I don’t base my life around the football team or athletic program.
And it’s pretty easy there “champ” to talk about Utah doing this when they should just drop football if they are taking PE money to field a team.
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6 hours ago, bluto said:
The belief in her as a viable candidate for anything greater than the house is on par with that fuckin idiot wulaw’s cfp claim on the football board.
Wulaw also thought that Dodgers getting Ohtani for the price they paid was a bad decision. He's like an older Helo.
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I have an uncle that'd have a coronary if she won the seat. He's not particularly religious nor does he seem to care about Maga from what I can gather, but Crockett is a no go for him.
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5 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:
PE exists for the exit: what’s the exit here?
Getting alcohol sold at all of their sporting events. Should be fun watching Mormons drink during the game and not before it anymore. No way that alcohol ban stays in place with this deal. BYU will probably follow with that as well. Should make for some good Mormon on Mormon violence, especially during football and basketball games.
I know it’s not that simple, but seeing this transpire will be something.
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5 hours ago, PittsburghTiger said:
Doesn’t this firm own part of the Alpine F1 team?
Yes and apparently it’s a real dumpster fire.
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2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:
This is like running Stephen Miller for senate in California.
Not her best idea doing this. She won’t win the primary and she’ll just be wasting Talarico’s time having to focus on her in this primary. Democrats seem to have terminal bad decision disease.
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5 minutes ago, tokamak said:
Individual seats? You sound poor. It is high time that some forward-thinking visionary builds the first ever luxury suite-only stadium. Think of the monetization!
Who is gonna be the first school to play home games on the moon?
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11 minutes ago, Derka said:
So Juan how’s that move over to Flushing working out for you? Enjoying playing for one of the worst run franchises in pro sports in America?
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47 minutes ago, Satchel said:
Texas really did not need Sec money’ but yet here we are.
Which points to the greed of the whole operation. This will all eventually collapse upon itself. I’m not saying UT will go broke in athletics, but overall this is just not a sustainable way to do things. Utah is just small potatoes and they aren’t winning anything with or without this money. When the more prominent schools opt into this either on their own or through their conference affiliation it will not be a good time. I expect that ASU will also one day face this same decision. I’d like to hope they’ll decline, but that just isn’t how human beings are wired. There is never a number on money that makes it enough for people that have the wiring to eternally chase more of it.
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2 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:
The debt makes sense, to a point. Big-time football is advertising for the university as a whole.
SMU saw a decline in student quality when they shut down the football program for the death penalty. Conversely, their move to the ACC saw the opposite effect. Better and more students means more money, now AND later. So, going into some level of debt to keep your name as part of the game makes sense.
There is a limit, however.
That I can understand. That line where the limit is gets crossed by so many schools to the point of absurdity. Your mediocre football program cranking out a Jeff Fisher wet dream of 5-7 or 6-6 is just a pointless program to overfund. I realize this is mostly preaching to the choir, but more money into education means your graduates will be better prepared for the world they will step int. Buying that 4 star WR for your football team that never does anything is, well, it’s just ignorant and a slap in the face to the professors working their backside off to provide a great education.
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2 minutes ago, Deej said:
A lot of schools just need to shutter their football programs instead of continuing to chase debt.
Or take the hit to the ego and drop down to the FCS. If you’re going into debt to fund your overall athletic program you are sending the message loud and clear that the school cares more about athletics than education. This is such an incredibly ridiculous American mindset. Get young people a quality education that they can then use to help out in society. But no, let’s get more state of the art practice facilities built for our football team that never wins anything that matters. Screw the students here to get an actual education.
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8 minutes ago, immamac said:
I don't think you understand how money works. There is no way PE can give Texas more money. Its not possible.
I think I understand people and the corrosive effect of money upon them. It’s odd that you earnestly believe a school would turn down money. PEOPLE ARE GREEDY. Jesus tap dancing Christ you live in a state filled with clowns in positions of power that will always want more money. To think any obscenely rich institution, it’s athletic programs or whatever else, would say “your money is no good here” just won’t happen. You can bookmark this thread for when it comes to pass a few years down the road.
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13 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:
UU's financials. https://utahutes.com/documents/2025/1/21/FY24_NCAA_Revenue_and_Expense_Report.pdf
tl;dr
Revenue 109,793,853
Expenses $126,835,478
So when this happens to schools, and I know it is most athletic programs, are they getting loans to cover the shortfall or just dipping into education funds to break even?
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4 minutes ago, immamac said:
It in no world makes any sense for either side. PE does well when there's something wrong and/or someone needs the money.
Texas athletics or the University do not need money and are running arguably better than any other university already. There is no advantage to it under any circumstance and if some PE firm wants to light money on fire and pay 100B for the Texas brand which is over 10x the value of the current highest sports franchise on planet earth, Texas would simply refuse because they have nothing to spend 100B on.
None of that matters. More money is more money. People who base their entire worth on having more of it, even at a school like Texas, will take it. This is just some simple human psychology and how greed will inevitably lead to Texas doing this. It won’t be right now or even in the near future, but as sure as the sun rises everyday it’ll happen. Aggy is the one I am eagerly waiting on with this. They’ll take the money and try to make the Tackle Box seat 200,000 fans.
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2 minutes ago, immamac said:
Texas is obscenely profitable and has no need for a deal like this?
Have you met the people making decisions? They have an insatiable appetite for money. It will eventually happen at Texas. The number offered will be astronomical when it does.
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Good on Australia for seeing how incredibly destructive social media is. It has trained people to not be able to form thoughts or ideas on their own. Just something else in a long line of human ideas about communicating that has had a corrosive effect and is actively destroying our world.
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6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:
Yeah, ostensibly the revenue for the vultures comes from licensing and marketing and shit.
But where it's likely to come from really is ticket prices, concessions, and shit like pay toilets.
I can’t wait until they are forced to sell alcohol at the games because of this. State law notwithstanding at the moment, it’ll get changed and all those puritanical clowns will be putting down five or six 15 dollar tall boys before blacking out in the 3rd quarter.
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On 12/3/2025 at 3:31 AM, Carl Spackler said:
RIP Elden Campbell. Way too young.
He was a member of my favorite Laker team. It was the 92-93 Lakers that would’ve beaten Phoenix in Game 5 if not for a Barkley offensive goaltending that wasn’t called. That team had Big Game James on his last legs and a young Vlade. Sad that Elden lost his life the way he did. He always came across as a gentle giant. RIP.
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Jasmine Crockett (Texas Representative)
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I do not know how else I can say why this is not in the best interests of Texas Democrats. Fascists run Texas right now. Ms. Crockett is not going to win a statewide race under those circumstances. I have a better chance of the Lakers signing me to play shooting guard than she would have flipping that state right now. No amount of spectacle is going to change that. Talarico, once again, should be out canvassingTexas trying to break the fever grip of fascism that has engulfed the state. He’s the one for this cycle. Whether he wins or not I do not know. I do know Ms. Crockett should’ve ran for Congress again. That is where she can affect change.