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  1. 12 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

    What can they really do about it? Not in the universe of message board bullshit like "you have to have a private school in your conference so you can do stuff without telling anyone" or "Ann Richards kept Texas out of the Pac-10 in the early 90s so Baylor could go to the Big 12 with them". I mean in the literal real-world sense, what is Texas A&M going to do if the rest of the SEC wants the University of Houston? 

    Yea, the SEC is chomping at the bit to get UH but they just can't seem to pry them away from the AAC.

     

    Big16

    West div

    Washington
    Oregon
    USC
    UCLA
    Stanford
    Cal
    Arizona
    Arizona St


    Central div

    UT
    OU
    OK St
    TT
    TCU
    Kansas
    Kansas St
    Iowa St





    B1G

    B1G West 

    Wisconsin
    Iowa
    Utah
    Nebraska
    Minnesota
    Colorado 
    Illinois 
    Northwestern


    B1G East

    Ohio St
    Michigan
    Michigan St
    Penn St
    Indiana
    Purdue
    Maryland
    Rutgers




    WVU to ACC
     

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  2. 18 hours ago, LTbear said:

    To be clear I'm only spit-balling. My completely out-of-my-ass opinion is USC doesn't want to leave the PAC unless they really have no other option, and them talking about all options being on the table are just to 1) apply more heat to Scott & Co. to figure shit out and 2) setup future convos where, if revenue increases seem to be only marginal, they make the case their value to the conference warrants them getting a bigger share than WSU, OSU, etc. 

    Thats one salty spitball 

     

     

     

     

     

  3. 2 hours ago, LTbear said:

    That thought has crossed my mind. With the long relationship/ mutual respect the B1G and PAC have, perhaps 4-6 PAC teams see if they can become the western arm of a B1G PAC conference. The four Cali schools, UO, and UW perhaps.

     

    But I doubt anything happens and bet USC is just trying to lay the groundwork for pressuring the PAC into maybe giving them a bigger piece of the TV pie. 

    It doesn't seem like there is anymore $ to be squeezed from the Pac. I mean where is this extra $ going to come from?  Is the plan to just milk Washington st and Oregon st? I know they tried to sell part of their network for a cash injection but it seems that didn't happen, or are they still holding out hope there?

  4. 13 hours ago, utee94 said:

    The B12 isn't USC's only option.  If they'd consider traveling to far-flung options in Texas and the plains states, then they'd likely consider traveling to far-flung options in the midwest as well.  And they're an AAU university.

    USC to B1G talk not going away.

    If the new league were divided by former Pac schools in one div and former Big12 schools in the other, then USC isn't having to travel to far-flung locations anymore than they do now.

     

    WVU, to the ACC, Baylor dropped.

     

    On Pac side Oregon st and Washington st dropped, one of Arizona st/Utah/Colorado gets the last spot.

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  5. 5 minutes ago, utee94 said:

    Well I absolutely agree with you there.  Anyone that takes the simplistic view that a "merger" is likely, doesn't see the big picture.

    The B12 gains nothing from a "merger" with the PAC..  However, the B12 gains plenty by adding just USC and perhaps a traveling partner, depending on who it is and what eactly USC is asking.

    All of this speculation of course, based on the idea that USC would actually consider leaving the PAC.  I know they said nothing is off the table, but that would be a pretty major step for a program with a lot of tradition and history in that conference.

     

    Which is why from a USC prospective, it may be better to include 7 or so other Pac schools, keeping the division regional and historical. 

     

    Either way the fact is, which is now codified by the USC AD, that they are financially desperate, minor tweaks aren't cutting it, and a drastic change is going to have to be made in order for USC to be satiated financially. Standing pat is no longer an option for USC and Pac schools, a big change of some sort is coming.

     

    From a Big12 school perspective, and these may be varying but it would seem logical, that the priorities would be to keep their division regional, and receive as large a pay bump as possible. 

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  6. 3 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

    2019 season was a lame duck year for USC football.. they had a dead man walking for a HC (somehow got a stay for now), and boosters boycotting with no AD.  And still were pretty much even with attendance with ISU.  I'm not saying that Iowa st, KSU should be left behind or anything.  But SC is still SC despite the dumpster fire it currently is.  This notion of thinking that it's them and just one partner being allowed to join is a joke.  You can call it a merger or annex or expansion but a min of 7/8 teams from the Pac along with 7/8 of the current big 12 makes the most sense,

    Keep the schools in the same division as now.  The 9th conf game will be a random crossover game from the opposite division.

    Iowa St, KSu fans should be happy.. they have a chance to grab kids from Cali now too if this were to happen.

    The 8th and 9th conference games could be interdivisional, guaranteeing a home and away every year, and guaranteeing no longer than 4 years between matchups. 

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  7. I like that too but apparently the west coast Pac folks will regard Stanford and Cal as necessary inclusions. If that is the case:

     

    Big16 Pac div

    USC

    UCLA

    Stanford

    Cal

    Washington

    Oregon

    Arizona

    Arizona St/Utah

     

    Big 16 Southwest div

     

    UT 

    TCU

    TT

    OU

    OSU

    Kansas

    CU

    Utah/Baylor

     

     

     

    Iowa St and Kansas St to the B1G, getting them into the KC market.

     

    WVU to ACC

  8. 7 minutes ago, PhillyD said:

    Why even do this?  Just to lose Iowa State and West Virginia?  I'm sure Washington State is on board with this plan too.  At least try to make some damn sense.  This thread goes off the fuckin rails every year but this year in particular it's infested with idiocy.

    West                           Central

    USC                              UT

    UCLA                           OU

    Washington                Kansas

    Oregon                        TCU

    Stanford                      Texas Tech

    Arizona                        Baylor

    Cal                                Oklahoma State

    Arizona State              Kansas State 

  9. West                           Central

    USC                               UT

    UCLA                            OU

    Washington                 Kansas

    Oregon                         TCU

    Arizona                        Texas Tech

    Arizona State              Baylor

    Colorado                      Oklahoma State

    Utah                              Kansas State 

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