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My Friends,
Let's use this thread to post developments such as who has been contacted, who has answered, and sources regarding who is being considered. Please limit comments to the actual development. Please do not regurgitate opinions about other things. Please refrain from repeating a joke from another thread (can he teach tackling? regarding an OC). Let's keep this lean and move posts here to Coaching 2020 for broader blather.
Thank you,
RomaVicta
Per Recruiting Board
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Things turned fast on the Morgan Scalley pursuit as he offered a thanks but no thanks. A lot has changed in a year and he no longer needs a stepping stone job in order to be under consideration for head coaching jobs.
Bummer. He's beloved by his players and would have been a rainmaker recruiter.
Names we've heard since late last night include Jimmy Lake and Barry Odom, but right now things are pointing in Chris Ash's direction. I've heard that removing Todd Orlando as DC was Herman's decision. Orlando being a Herman favorite, along with Drew Mehringer (also terminated), makes more sense if Herman felt he'd be able to hire Ash. In a shocking coincidence, if Ash is hired, the best man across the entire spectrum of football worked with Herman at Ohio State.
I'm not sure Texas should be in a hurry to make a defensive coordinator hire but things seem to be moving pretty quickly in Ash's direction. They should definitely gauge all relevant parties to see how this hire would be received. I think Ash would be fine schematically and runs a four-man front but the locker room fit is questionable. As a recruiter he would be able to tell kids he coached Nick Bosa's brother.
On offense I still hear Graham Harrell is the top target. I know there's talk of Joe Brady out there but I'm not buying it for a couple of reasons: LSU will just match offers, and I heard UT wanted OC wrapped up pretty quickly. Brady's about to help LSU win a National Championship.
Clay Helton's employment may still be undecided at USC. I've heard a range of things, from they're still working on buyout details to the AD and BMD's being on different pages. The AD might be trying to hold on to Helton and Harrell. I don't know the politics of USC but it seems whoever made the call on hiring the new AD might still want Helton.
I think Harrell can be had regardless but it would be harder to pull him if Helton is still the head coach at SC.
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Somebody please start a new thread when there is news. This is like an overflow pond for all the other threads. It also seems to be rife with speculation adopted as fact and then wrapped in confirmation bias.
I think everyone is on record multiple times about multiple aspects of just a few subjects.
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I'd like to help you, dude. But. You know. Sayonara.
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Good for two reasons. Orlando ultimately failed. I won't have to look at this stupid thread title anymore.
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19 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:
Not sure what to make of this, but laughing anyway...
Is he in Florida working his ass off?
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1 minute ago, closetojumping said:
The whole “assume positive intent” approach is what leads to disaster and death in this life. Herman is a stranger to us. You don’t know him, nor do I. All we have to go on are 1) hope, 2) our own biases and experiences, and 3) facts as we understand them. 1 and 2 are useless when looking at the behaviors of a stranger. We have no idea what drives or motivates this guy in times of personal crisis. If he’s a full blown narcissist with the actual personality disorder, then there are some things we can predict, but that’s about it. Beyond that, we have 3, and as the discussion pertains to facts, there’s not a single fucking reason to assume positive intent with this guy at this point. He’s had 3 years. He’s shown us what he’s capable of and where his priorities are.
Also, if USC actually hires Urban Meyer, light a cigarette because our recruiting class is already fucked. He is going to feast on UT’s class like a great white chowing on a bloated grey whale carcass.
I'm not sure I described actions based on positive intent. Herman's actions, as I meant to describe them, were in terms of egoism and damaged ego-driven arrogance. I do quibble about the degree of those qualities ascribed to him by those who can't just believe someone is wrong or flawed without being absolutely evil.
"He's had three years. He shown us what he's capable of..."
I don't think it's that simple with Herman's three years. He had a shitty year. He had a pretty good year that started shitty and ended strong. His third year had great promise through the OSU win and then crashed revealing many profound problems.
We haven't seen what he will do when accountable for those results. We spend just hours awaiting his final actions or inactions eating our guts out in doubt. We assume the worst and then comment as though the worst has happened.
We won't have the complete picture of Herman until he shows his hand on how he plans to handle the current situation. I have some hope he'll make good moves, but I wouldn't bet a dime on it. As you say, we just don't know.
Good post.
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1 hour ago, Cajun said:
The same kind of bitch that tolerates repeated Zero Blitz on 3rd and 17.
I'm a football idiot. The game has grown far more complicated since I knew anything about it. Even being a dumbass, I hate watching that blitz. It must be dawn up that the blitzers loop and immediately engage a blocker instead of eluding him.
It. Never. Gets. Home.
I know from reading the football smart guys around here and other sites over the years that a massive blitz on the third an long is not such a great strategy when you could lay back, play zone and keep the receivers short of the sticks. Yet, we hold on to our blitz tradition like the Aggies do to their idiotic Howdy and pouch grabbing traditions.
The fall of Orlando is sad and will be difficult for Herman, but Orlando can't deny the facts himself.
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1 hour ago, Walden Ponderer said:
For those of us who want to hold out on the sliver of hope that Herman can rehabilitate himself, this is an absolutely necessary scenario. There's not surgery for arrogance quite like hitting rock bottom, and minus an 0-12 season, there is nothing more "rock bottom" than having your designated protégé stab you in the back and undermine what little you are already doing right.
If he's going to turn around, he absolutely needs to come close to bleeding out, and then be grateful for the transfusion.
This fits what I'm thinking. If Herman is the narcissistic arrogance engine some of you claim he is, he will see his failure here as a completely devastating reflection upon him. He, if he is as described, will cut any throat to avoid that fate.
I don't think he is the foul character that those rightfully critical of his and the team's performance want to believe. I believe he does have enough of those egoistic qualities to make changes. Just about all successful head coaches and executives have those traits. I think many here give too much weight to these decisions and actions not happening at light speed.
Again, I agree with the criticism of coaching and scheme for the most part. Sticking to all of that does point to arrogant and unsupported confidence in one's ability. I think we'd be best off if Herman does a profound self-assessment and makes changes in accordance with the culture he believes in.
I don't relish another coaching search and selection. If Herman holds this recruiting class, I'm fine with giving him a year with his coaching choices to see if he can start getting the performance rightfully expected of his players. If he's gone after that, he leaves a cupboard in good shape.
Lastly, I am happy about the way the team decided to play after the first quarter of the Tech game. Something happened to wake them up and play with self-pride and genuine joy. I suspect it was the example of Duvernay and Sam and Roschon on offense. The defense followed suit and played with energy and power. We could have watched the whole season end with a pathetic ass-kicking. I feel encouraged at least about the spirit of the team.
Hook 'Em!
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On 11/29/2019 at 11:54 AM, DDD Dad said:
It looks like Trump must have walked into the Presidential Kitchen and caught Mick taking an extra scoop of ice cream.
"You gonna ban me from the Afghan trip?"
"Oh no. You're going, Mick. You're going."
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Not soon enough. He should have fired his staff when the gun sounded or it's not good enough for Surly.
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He lifted his team today to close out a fabulous season. I never expected this from him. I'm an idiot and he is a hell of a man and player.
He and Roschon are my players of the year. Inspiring and effective Longhorns. They saved us from a dismal day today along with Sam.
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9 minutes ago, workswithseed said:
I see, so only people dying from knives okay as long as it fewer people.
Begged for being wilfully obtuse and disingenuously representing the arguments of others.
Not negging you for employing both the no you and you mad bro responses. Those are too pitiful to raise ire.
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1 hour ago, workswithseed said:
I mean I'm just making the same statement he made.
You don't have to be so mad how dumb they sound when directed at you.
Stubborn adherence does not a cogent argument make.
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30 minutes ago, workswithseed said:
I bet after you die knives will be outlawed.
Any answer or "argument" is enough for many in Idiot World.
Hur Hur, let's outlaw knives! Hur hur, now you see how futile outlawing assault rivals is, libtard!
Follow knowing nods from the usual morons proud of their hostility to logic, science, and intellectuals while they cling to a God that bears no resemblance to the one described in their sacred texts.
Low rent sophistry for low IQ people.
Please leave your leftover turkey out on the counter overnight before diving into it tomorrow for lunch. Yum!
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16 minutes ago, The People’s Elbow said:
I’ll share something for which I’m not thankful: the absence of true and thoughtful conservative voices in the Cloak Room.
There was a time many years ago when a reasonable amount of dialog was at least thoughtful and more balanced. Even amongst the usual political shitposting, there was for some a minimum standard to discourse and, more than occasionally, an exchange of beliefs as ideas.
Actually, I was going to congratulate the thoughtful conservatives who are forced to review how to use their votes to find appropriate voice for that philosophy. Many have had to embrace the cold for the moment, and that can't be easy.
I'll be happy when traditional GOPS find a new home. Maybe then we can refine the party of the left.
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Is there a betting pool on what time tonight the White House will release some damning document in the misty gloom of a holiday weekend eve? Maybe 11pm EST which would be 8 out west? Or will they take no chances and release the pee tape or something at 3am EST after everybody has gone to bed?
Also, if Trump could evoke any sympathy at all, the above boxer tweet would be genuinely sad. Depending upon how the next 16 years go, it will be interesting to see if the Imperial Archives declare the image genuine or if history classes in the remaining republic hold it up as further evidence of the would-be dictator's derangement.
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The Aggies are convinced that they are not the Texas Tech in their match up. People are tuning in to watch the Aggies as much as LSU.
We're relevant! People care about us! People laugh at tu!
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46 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:
Yeah, this too.
White men should not be allowed to run shit for at least ten years. Again, to quote Henry Rollins, this man's world is a poorly run carnage fest.
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5 hours ago, Tuco said:
From the hearings, the Republican line of questioning would imply that the delay was due to a reevaluation of corruption efforts after Zelensky was elected.
And how fucked up is it that we have to infer what the White House position is from how Republican Congressmen "hear" the evidence?
Yes. Trump and the GOPs were quite disappointed that the corrupt guy was ousted by a huge majority and replaced with a genuine anti-corruption candidate.

How am I supposed to cut a deal with a guy like that?
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At least we all agree that quadroons deserve the vote but not your negroes in general. The other sensible restrictions on voting and holding office will work themselves out similarly.
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As for Dem timing, isn't it wise not to push for big developments right before a weekend or holiday? I'm fine with the break. Strategize and get after them next week. We on this board are impatient, I think.
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10 minutes ago, Eastwood said:
It would be wild if we got the equivalent of the Nixon tapes. We all think that the Forever Trumpers will just come right out and say that they don't care and that Trump can abuse the constitution all he wants, but I want to hear it. I want it on the record forever.

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Actual Coaching Staff Developments
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Thanks Mo from the Coaching Staff 2020 Thread:
This was posted over in the Recruiting thread, seems it needs to be here as well. NSIAP.
Thanks @Getafix
Mike Roach / Horns 247
The Stampede (Pt. 2): WR coaches that could boost recruiting
There are now several openings on the Texas coaching staff. After former wide receivers coach Drew Mehringer was dismissed and Corby Meekins was re-assigned, the Longhorns are left with former analyst Andre Coleman in an interim role for the bowl season. Traditionally, the wide receiver coach position is usually reserved for one of the stronger recruiters on staff, but they also must be a strong teacher of the position.
The new offensive coordinator hire will probably have to weigh in on who his new wide receiver coach is, but the Longhorns have a chance to make their team better while strengthening their recruiting staff with the right hire at the position. I spoke to several recruiting sources around the state of Texas to get an idea of what coaches would be the ideal targets for Tom Herman and his future offensive coordinator.
Regardless of the current state of the program, there is still a lot of power and prestige that comes with wearing the Longhorn logo on the chest. Texas should be able to land a great candidate for the job.
Emmett Jones, Kansas
Background: Jones played his high school ball at Seagoville and then walked on at Texas Tech before entering the coaching profession after graduating from North Texas. Jones rose to prominence as the offensive coordinator for legendary high school coach Reginald Samples at Dallas Lincoln and Dallas Skyline. Jones then moved on to accept the head coaching position at South Oak Cliff before taking a collegiate position at Texas Tech in 2015. When Kliff Kingsbury was fired, Jones took a position on Les Miles’ staff at Kansas. On the field, Jones was integral in the development of Texas Tech receivers Antoine Wesley, TJ Vasher, and Keke Coutee.
On the recruiting trail, Jones was responsible for landing players such as Velton Gardner, Ta'Zhawn Henry, SaRodorick Thompson, Riko Jeffers, and Steven Parker.
On the Field: Jones has a strong relationship as a wide receiver developer, and he has experience in multiple offenses. The bulk of his collegiate experience came under Kliff Kingsbury as an air raid coach assigned raw but athletic prospects at the position. Jones also has a strong reputation among the players who play under him.
Impact: Jones would instantly be one of the most dangerous recruiters in the country. He’s been able to put together strong groups at Texas Tech and Kansas, but that would be nothing compared to what he could do with the Texas logo backing him. Jones would specifically shine in south Dallas where his ties to the area and knowledge of prospects provide him with a built-in advantage no other in-state team has.
One south Dallas coach I spoke with said, “He would win recruiter of the year at Texas. It wouldn’t even be close. He will shut down Dallas if they let him loose.”
Interest: In speaking with several sources familiar with Jones, I was told that while he has a good thing going at Kansas, it would be difficult to turn down a chance to recruit for Texas. Should the Longhorns make an offer, I expect him to take a long look at it.
Ra'Shaad Samples, SMU
Background: Texas fans are no stranger to Samples. A former standout at Dallas Skyline (under Emmett Jones), Samples signed with Oklahoma State but ended up transferring to the University of Houston. Following his playing career, Samples served as an offensive assistant where he worked with running backs, receivers, and quarterbacks. Samples later followed Tom Herman to Texas and assisted Drew Mehringer with wide receivers while serving as an on-campus recruiter.
Samples was key in helping Texas open doors in south Dallas which was something they hadn’t been able to do under Herman. He played a big role in landing Ja’Quinden Jackson who plays for Samples’ father Reginald at Duncanville, and he served as a primary point of contact for several other prospects before being hired by SMU in a full-time on-field coaching role.
On the Field: This is Samples’ first year as an on-field assistant, but he has experience working with most of the receivers on the current Texas roster. His inexperience could be a negative factor, but SMU wide receivers have been incredibly productive this season and he comes from a strong tradition of coaching.
Impact: Samples made a big splash with the Dallas to Austin movement while on staff at Texas. His recruiting impact carried over to SMU where Samples has the Mustangs in the race for several big-name prospects. Samples has obvious connections at Duncanville, but he would be an effective recruiter in any region. His name carries enough power, and his relationship-building skill and genuine personality allow him to relate to kids from many different social backgrounds.
Interest: Samples loved his time at Texas, but an on-field role at SMU was too tough for him to turn down. Samples is starting to build quite a following back in his home city, but Texas would be a strong move for his career.
Jeff Traylor, Arkansas
Background: Traylor is currently the associate head coach and running backs coach for Arkansas. The former Texas assistant rose to prominence as a high school coach and turned his alma mater Gilmer into a Texas powerhouse.
Traylor was hired by Texas after winning three state championships at Gilmer and served under Charlie Strong for his last two years in Austin. Traylor went on to serve under Chad Morris at SMU and followed him to Arkansas last year. With Morris out at Arkansas, Traylor will be a coveted free agent. Traylor has been a jack of all trades coaching special teams, tight ends, and running backs at the college level.
On the Field: Traylor doesn’t have college experience coaching receivers, but there’s little doubt he could do it. Traylor’s offenses in high school were among the most innovative in the state, and his wealth of coaching experience means he could likely transition to the position easily.
Impact: Traylor has been a dynamite recruiter at the college level, and his influence in east Texas is unmatched. Texas fans saw that when Traylor helped to land players such as Brandon Jones and Montrell Estell. Traylor would continue to lockdown east Texas, and he has the ability to step in as a specialist in any region of the state. Traylor’s lack of experience at the receiver position would be offset by his tremendous recruiting ability and reputation as a player’s coach.
Interest: A source I spoke with during the fall said that Traylor was the only assistant from Strong’s staff that Tom Herman had an interest in keeping. Traylor was considered for an off-field role but chose to move on and keep coaching. The same source indicated that Traylor would very much be open to the idea of returning to Austin.