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RomaVicta

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  1. Interesting. I googled Texas Rangers Center Point Texas

    Your thread is off to a good start.

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    Mike Cox, the author of “Gunfights and Sites in Texas Ranger History,” believes it might have begun as a simple matter of convenience. The area has long been a favorite retirement spot. Since a number of Rangers had retired nearby, it made since they would be laid to rest there. With a fair number already interred in the cemetery, more and more Rangers from other parts of Texas started requesting to buried there as well. In fact, modern Rangers are known to request to be buried beside their brothers in arms in Center Point. Cox calls the little cemetery the “unofficial Arlington of the Texas Rangers.”

    Founded in 1872, the cemetery now holds over 1,452 graves. The first Texas Ranger to take his rest in Center Point was George Moore, who died in 1886.

     

    I'd like to see Comfort and Center Point stay the same. Comfort is a great place.

  2. 1 minute ago, MillerEP said:

    No worries, for the record I don't dispute most of what you said. I'm also not a Trump supporter, but I am a hugely patriotic American. Warts and all.

    I'm running a post behind in our exchange. I don't sense that you're defending Trump. The discussion has been good. Thanks for that.

     

  3. 12 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

    the US benefits from wiping out him and the head of Hezbollah in Iraq, because it impacts current ongoing anti-US operations and weakens the Iranian influence over a key strategic partner in the middle east. We disrupt the money, mastermind, and supplies to anti-US milita groups, while maintaining a base of operations in the heart of the Middle East. The short-term pain of the act will fade eventually, we're also keeping terrorists and wannabe terrorists occupied over there instead of them flying over here

    This is one of the rationales for the Iraq Invasion.  We create terrorists more often than diminish them. 

    Rumsfeld was on the right track in musing about an effective metric for judging our success. Americans don't want to face that possible truth. We want to believe the happy fiction above. And we keep making things worse.

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    was to wasn't.

    38 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

    Oh for sure we have, but we've always adhered the the rules if that makes sense. There is a code of conduct about these things, actually codified into international law and "norms" about what is acceptable for covert operations. Northern Alliance, Brigade 2506, Nicaraguan Democratic Force, Syrian Democratic Force, etc. As you can tell from the names, we've actually supported some "declared" group, or at least made one up ensuring that we were following the Convention. We're not angels but everything we do has some legitimacy to it, even if the intentions aren't the greatest. Russia usually adheres to the conventions also, we just don't like it because it's counter to our goals. The only time they crossed a line that we know about was the Crimea annexation, which is why it was such a big deal.

    Thanks for illuminating your earlier post. Russia and the US can make up rules to give their crimes the fig leaf of semantic legitimacy; they were superpowers at the head of large alliances. The fig leaf is, again, for the morons at home that want to wave the flag and find some way to say we are always the good guys. (I recognize that you do not go that far. I don't call you a moron. I think your comparison is superficial.)

    That legitimacy you describe is as much of an embarrassment as anything else. It's like our justification blowing civilians to smithereens when they get in the way: "We're different! We're not actually trying to kill the civilians! We got policies against that! 

    That's just bullshit if you find a disembodied liver or shin near the blast site and try to figure out who it belonged to.

    When we decide to use bombs and missiles, we are deciding to kill civilians. Own it. Own that the assassination of this Iranian fuck wasn't really a "defensive" action. It's an act of aggression, so justify it in that light. 

    When Reagan bombed Libya we absurdly called that defensive. We bombed Qaddafi's houses clearly in hopes of killing him. We did manage to kill some of his family as well blow up military targets. Even when he did something justified, the choice was to lie about it. We blamed them for a disco bombing in Germany when we knew it was the Syrians (whom we didn't bomb).

    I supported the airstrike. I might quibble about assassination of a foreign leader by the Air Force, but Libya needed to be smacked for a variety of other acts. "The acts of murder and terror supported by Libya justify a military response. The United States will not tolerate a foreign state conducting a proxy war against its citizens." Fuckin' A. I'm with you on this one, Ronnie.

    As for this assassination, this shit never does any good anyway. We're not cutting off the head of the snake. That thing is a fucking hydra and who knows where the other heads will strike? Was it worth the temporary thrill of cutting off the one head? How are our interests advanced beyond a dull-minded high five?

     

  5. 42 minutes ago, LABEVO said:

    Yes, the US doesn’t fund paramilitary groups ever....

     

    2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

     Nor sell arms to Iran in order to pay for it. 

    Outstanding combination of posts. The "neat idea."

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  6. 2 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

    This is 100% correct, but if he thinks their ideas or suggestions will indeed benefit him he will absolutely follow them down whatever path they go. Plus they know he's all about himself and they will use that to convince him that this will get him what he wants. He is so easily manipulated if you understand how to play him. 

    Annndddd, in his dotage he will be led to believe that he is the instrument of God perhaps divine himself. You don't think that will appeal to him as he decides how far he is willing to go to avoid the coming shame of the impeachment trial and likely defeat in the general election?

    You are the God King, Mr. Trump. Act as such and all of heaven will be yours. Decorated in garish gold with many mirrors and portraits of you.

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    1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

    I do buhlieve Lindsey is gettin' the vapors . . . "if you want more, you will get more".

     

    I could kill this fuckers for rabble rousing with tough talk.

    We celebrate blasting the leader of an organization because that's what we're best at. We've dealt a blow! This will deter them! Thing is, these assassinations don't seem to change much of anything. I'm fine with killing the leader of an organization that threatens the US. I'm not fine with acting like such actions are more important strategically than they are.

    We're fighting hydras not snakes.

    Rumsfeld was so right about the lack of a metric for determining if our policies were harming or helping our opponents. These high profile assassinations (purely defensive harrumph harrumph! Let's not forget who the good guys are in our simplistic little minds!) are something like the weekly casualty reports from Viet Nam. See? See? We're winning because we're killing more of them than they are of us!

    Again, our cynical leaders cast us as the liberators of Paris fomenting a widespread reform in Iran. Our short memories don't hold the fact that an earlier American assassination of an elected leader of Iran plunged that country into the hands of an oppressive autocrat king.

    I'm reminded of Apocalypse Now where the Americans hose a sampan with heavy machine gun fire wrongly thinking a girl was reaching for gun. One person on the boat is still barely alive and the Americans become saviors at the turn of a short moment. We're not killing them in droves! We're saving them! Outstanding metaphor scene.

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  8. 10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

    Have no fear bro!

     

    Good for him. All who support a war with Iran should be lining up to do the same. It's much better than celebrating the men who do so and then ignoring the needs of those men when they return home. The chicken hawks only like the vicarious thrill of combat; they've no time or empathy for what it costs the real soldier.

    I did look this guy up on google. Says he's a "fraudster" and general right wing grifter. My bet is that he has some condition that will prevent the Army from accepting his enlistment. It would be amusing if he were wrong about the defect, and the Army took him anyway.

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    You're mine now. Let's see that okay hand sign, private.

  9. 6 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

    1) You didn't answer my query. I asked if the average 11 year old would like this movie and you never answered that question.

    2) Yes, I am sensitive when people question my parenting. Here's the thing: there are a lot of things that I do wrong. I'm a shitty internet poster. Most of the time, I am a shitty husband. My profession is teaching and while I usually do a pretty good job at it, sometimes my students would describe my teaching style as "shitty". However, I am a pretty fucking good father. It's the one thing that I usually do in a non-shitty way.

    I did answer your question. I didn't question your parenting.

    I do wonder about your defensiveness. Have a nice weekend.

  10. I don't know how effective this will be in slowing Iranian aggression. I don't know about lobbing missiles near a civilian airport.

    I am tired of us bombing other countries and then announcing the actions to be defensive. It's just wimpy and dumb to call this kind of attack defensive. This labeling is not at all unique to this administration either. We just won't smack somebody in the nose and say that's what we did.

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    President Donald Trump ordered an airstrike at Baghdad International Airport that killed Qasem Soleimani, a key Iranian military commander, in a "decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad" that was intended to deter "future Iranian attack plans," the Pentagon confirmed Thursday.

    This is an assassination. Own it.

    I'm not convinced this was a great move. I'll have to read more tomorrow. On first look, the act appears to be as many have described above: a vanity murder so Trump can pretend he's a man for a few days.

    The world likely hopes to see the US brought down a few pegs after Trump has strutted all over our friends.

    This whole thing is pathetic.

     

  11. 4 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

    Thanks for the lecture and parenting advice, but you misunderstood my intention. I have, and will continue to, show my son all kinds of movies to expand his taste. However, with this movie, he was expecting a "Michael Bay, explosion every minute" type of movie and I was trying to temper his expectations, because I could tell the movie was not going to be like that at all. 

    You seem sensitive. Sorry for answering your query.

  12. It's amazing how little of the movie I recall in the few months that have passed since seeing it. My first reaction was, "Norwegian monkeys in space? Are we talking about the same movie?" Then I called forth a vague memory of a baboon or something floating around.

    So many acclaimed and supposedly serious movies just don't leave the mark they should. The Shape of Water or Gravity are interesting movie experiences, but I just don't take much away from them. Sandra Bullock's tear floating in front of me at the 3D screening was moving.

    The FX Christmas Carol with Guy Pierce is the latest thing I can think of seeing that really left an impression. We'll see some movies over the next few weeks. It sure would be nice to be devastated or uplifted or at least driven by a movie to consider it after I return to the light.

  13. 52 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

    Exactly.  That is what active measures is about.  Sewing so much distrust and discord that people throw up their hands because they don't know what to believe.  I've witnessed it firsthand already with my FIL.  He is one of the smartest people I know, but he is just full on giving up because he thinks all media is dishonest.  

    Rs gleefully go along with it because they are too simple to see what is happening.

    They've been lapping up propaganda from Rush and the Rs about the evil of the media, unions, lawyers, and Congress for years. It's all wrapped in an illusory Liberal bow to make dull-minded hatred even easier. They shake their fist at pictures on FOX while being held upside down and shaken for their few unspent pennies.

    I hadn't thought of it before, but Putin's team may have actually learned active measures from the American right. That hate engine was designed to separate the little guy from his few avenues of redress against the powerful. Now they trust the market and corporations. The atmosphere could ignite, and they'd blame wind turbines for doing it.

    A well-run hate engine churning through Idiot World is really something to see. We live in great days, my friends.

  14. 1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

    The Trump figure does NOT include donations from foreign donors/governments to entities like the NRA, Liberty University, Prager U, and other advocacy groups that will spend millions on disseminating Trump propaganda in this election cycle.

    Campaign donations are only where the action is if you're looking at people who aren't all-in on corruption.  Otherwise, campaign donations are a sideshow.  The real action is elsewhere.

    It's out of control. The electorate has been offered proof that it's out of control. Too few see it as even a bad thing. Just win baby!

    Let's pat Greta Thunberg on her head and celebrate her efforts for two seconds and then back to the mac and cheese with the TV blaring a kid movie in the background. 

     

    Without the GOP, the US could have taken the world lead in addressing world problems. Imagine, taking the lead through sound policy rather than waving the threats of tank battalions or incarceration at the evil brown people.

    And the band plays on.

  15. 1 hour ago, tchookem said:

    Because "they all lie", it's a stupid justification, but it's the one they use to rationalize.

    Nevermind the fact that "politicians lying" used to mean making campaign promises you won't be able to keep; today Trump has normalized disinformation with alternative facts. If they like the lie they'll ignore that it was said.

    Concisely put.

    Instead of taking umbrage at being labeled dishonest, Trumpists use the label as a cover to be outright liars. It's maybe the most damaging aspect of both sides; it erodes trust in any person or institution. 

    Advantage Putin.

  16. 23 minutes ago, Js1 said:

    Trump - 46.5mm

    Dems announced so far - $78.9m

    Two things:

    Is there comparison stat with the opposite party field vs a president seeking reelection?

    Is the Trump figure adjusted for how much will be illegally siphoned off for the family and paying off porn stars?

  17. 14 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

    at least some of the fansville ones are funny.  *or at the very least, not terrible 

     

    Culpepper was a fucking beating.

     

    but then again if we are talking about bad Dr Pepper spokespeople, you cant  ever forget having a real good time with Pitbull.  yeah a real good time. 

    Amen on Pitbull. That was a beating.

    I'm fine with Culpepper and fansville. They'd be better if they'd have more variations.

    The Dr. Pepper ad with the lineman dancing in the endzone shown 20 times a game was worse than Abu Ghraib. Where's a sniper when you need one?

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    Take the fucking shot!

  18. On 9/21/2019 at 11:01 PM, HornOnTheBayou said:

    Would an eleven year-old like this movie? My son wants to see it, but I'm afraid he'll get bored without the explosions, car chases, titties, robots, and a comic sidekick.

    Interesting question.

    If you take your child only to movies with the formula you describe, how will his taste expand?

    I was fascinated and mystified by 2001: A Space Odyssey when I was about that age. It was my Star Wars and I caught it each time it rolled around to theaters over the years. Many movies not aimed at children impacted me even thought I couldn't say exactly why or sometimes what they were about. The Hustler and Hud were movies I saw before junior high (middle school). Having seen them and had them make a mark on me as a child made rewatching them as an adult an even richer experience. Hud in particular said different things to me at different ages.

    Zulu pops into my mind as another movie that was not directed at children that terrified and captivated me with the action and brought something more than just a heroic tale of a thin red line.

    Make room for something other than fun and distraction to entertain kids. You don't just feed them McDonald's and pizza. So it is with movies, my friend.

     

  19. 3 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

    What a spectacular season from a spectacular player.

    Bittersweet watching him shine last night. Even with little separation (or with one hand), he still found the ball and made the catch. Wish the 'Horns could slap him with a franchise tag and keep him for a fifth year.

    Some NFL team is going to be very pleased with its mid-draft pick.

     

    Yes.

    I had no idea what we had until some articles before the season and then Devon exceeding expectation leading to last night's spectacular performance.

    He's the kind of killer you can win national championships with. His name will be with me as long as I breathe. Best to Duvernay!

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    [Nixon]To be clear that violence would be wrong. [/Nixon]

    4 hours ago, Red Five said:

    I don't think I'd be able to handle a Trump re-election. I'd probably basically remove myself from society. 

    Don't forget to take a special someone with you.

    Edit: With extreme prejudice.

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