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  1. 2 hours ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

    I can’t wait to see what Worthy looks like this year with a QB with the arm talent to get him the ball in stride.   I watched a highlight tape of his and there were at least 3 TDs he was robbed of due to the ball being short.  
     

    Also excited to see what Marion can do with him.  Eerily similar in play style to Addison but probably faster. Highlights are almost identical. 

    Also just the momentum of coming off a year where he actually played football.  The guy balled out after having his senior season cancelled and being a summer enrollee with  a new staff. Incredible. 

    He now gets an entire offseason being WR1 in the same system. Exciting. 

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  2. Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

    Get the best 5 linemen on the field 

    It can bit more nuanced as far as best 5 vs best overall unit. 

    Assume best 6 in order is Angilau, Banks, Campbell, Jones, Majors, Conner. I may decide that Campbell plays RT better than Jones, and Conner plays G better than Jones, so Jones becomes my sixth man. 

    Banks - Angilau - Majors - Conner - Campbell. 

    The "best 5" mentality might have hurt us in 2020, when Kerstetter moved to C. Inserting Majors theoretically could have produced a better unit. Hindsight, tho. 

  3. 2 hours ago, Burt Macklin said:

    Nope. He plays DE/edge and had a first rounder ahead of him basically every year. 

    Lol wut. We’re running back the same, shitty OL from last year except without our best Tackle. so we’ll be hoping Christian Jones and a true freshman who isn’t an early enrolled to start at Tackle. And we’ll eithe be running out Majors, who got killed all last year, or a guy who’s never played Center at that spot. I’d say those are some glaring weaknesses. 
     

    We would also still have holes at edge, ILB, and in-line TE. A guy like Moody is way too much of a question make to assume he’ll fix that. And Our DL is still the same DL that got run all over last year.

    To be clear--in addition to Ewers, Watts, Billingsly, Neyor, Mathis, Brini, Moody--in the portal you would like to add: OT, OT, C, Edge, ILB, TE, DL, DL, DL.  16 total transfers. Am I missing anyone?  

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    18 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

     

     


    Some things to keep in mind.

    Using Darrion Dunn as an example. Younger guys like Barron and Crawford lost practice and game reps in part due to him. Our investment in Dunn had a moderate benefit at best. That was year 1. Subsequent years may be a net negative.

    Some of our guys were likely a step slower at times due to the new system. So guys who are “potential” upgrades are starting over too. Whether people like it or not, the guys in the system now, if willing to work hard, will improve so portal guys should be definitive upgrades. Take Morris and Gray at OU. Did OU end up in better shape by bringing on two backups and pushing the future down the depth chart?

    And our portal adds for last year? I’m not sure we were any better with them. Culture maybe. I’d also assume if you invest heavily in the portal that if those dudes don’t get significant playing time that becomes known for future guys.

    Personally I don’t want a program that is too portal dependent. Our approach to Oline was correct in my opinion. Maybe we got lucky with coaching moves and NIL timing, but it did work out.

     

     

    1. Your "taking reps" idea is colored a lot by hindsight. The main mission going into the season was to win enough games to positively impact recruiting. Looking back, we should have been focused on playing young guys and developing for 2022. Given the mission, the best guys needed to play until a 'plausibly spinnable' season (7-5) was out of reach, which was the loss to Kansas. Also needed to foster a meritocracy, so if Dunn was better to start the year, you play him. Barron became the starter at the end of the year anyway. Pretty sure Crawford was hampered by injury all year. 

    2. I agree with portal needing to be definitive upgrades, but only once the roster construction has normalized. Were not in the emergency 'there are literally no EDGE players' situation from last year that necessitated taking 3 JAGs just to fill a room with bodies. But, for positions where depth is still an issue it does make sense to take guys that may not be definitive upgrades, but who will for sure impact the 2-deep. And OU only would have had 1 RB without Gray, so they were definitely in better shape with him. 

    I agree with your general portal sentiments, but right now portal is a really effective tool to normalize and upgrade the roster. 

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    1. The first rule of the Transfer Portal is you dont worry about numbers. 
    2. The second rule of the Transfer Portal is you dont talk about numbers. 
    3. The third rule of the Transfer Portal is if you do worry and talk about numbers, don't be a fucking idiot and have a fucking clue. 
    55 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

    That makes sense, thanks.

    So right now we have 27 HS commits, plus hopefully D Campbell and maybe Champ Lewis still comes. Let's say 28. Making up numbers let's say we count 5 of those guys towards last year's class. That means for 2022 we'd have 23 HS counters and room for 9 transfers?

    See rule 3, above. To reiterate: don't be a fucking idiot and have a fucking clue. 

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  5. 7 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:


    It seems to me that this would probably mean that the coaches thought Casey was the better bet to win the next game, not that they think that Card doesn't have or won't have what it takes sometime in the future.  If they think he will never have the right stuff he probably wouldn't still be here.

    Never is a strong word. And him still being here in that case is not exactly a ringing endorsement. 

    To me--and although I have no evidence for this I'm sure the coaches must feel the same way--the thing that currently makes me most doubtful of Card's future is his mixture of great athleticism and piss-poor scrambling running ability. Even if he's taking sacks and missing throws, I would have a bunch more confidence is he's torching teams for 10 yards at a time running and showing off some athleticism. 

    His ability to turn wide-open 10 yard running lanes into nail biting 2-yard gains was flabbergasting. Sees defender 10 yards away and turns straight into the sideline, no pump fakes, no jukes, no COD, no head fakes, no cuts. Never seen anything like it from a "dual threat" QB with viable traits. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, NoName said:

    to be clear, you watched any Texas games this year...and determined that the team's largest need is defensive end, not linebacker?

    and beyond that, the choice is a guy who is a good but not great DE vs a guy who was a dang good LB but stuck behind the next great Bama pass rusher (Dallas Turner)?

     

    Defensive end was clearly the weakest position on the defense this year. That made the rest of the defense look terrible. 

    2020 Ossai and Jones made first-year-LB DMO and Juwan fuckface Mitchell look above average. 

    The drop-off in EDGE production in 2021 was astronomical. Thornton would consistently do nothing. Ovie would sometimes make a play, bust most other times get blown off the ball so bad an entire side of the defense would get compromised. 

    The defense managed to play average football when Jones was healthy. The rest of the time, hapless. 

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  7. 5 hours ago, Codaxx said:

    Part of my doubts on him is they also have  DE that many feel is better. The idea of Westlake having 2 Kids that are national prospects at DE seems unlikely to me. The other issue is positional fit. I dont see him as a guy that can play OLB in PK's system. I dont see that kind of athleticism. 

     

    3 hours ago, Codaxx said:

    Just trying to wrap my head around the idea that Westlake has two dominant Edge players that will be highly productive in college. Just doesnt seem right. Like lottery type odds that could happen. 

    Your take isnt lazy, it's nonsensical. 

    By your logic: Texas has "lottery-type odds" to land multiple 5-star OL, because Texas has never landed multiple 5-star OL. So if Devon Campbell commits to Texas, then we should automatically have doubts about his ability and rate him as a 4-star, because a 5-star OL is already committed. 

    Nonsensical.  

     

  8. 5 hours ago, closetojumping said:

    All I know is that I changed this thread title a few hours before Banks publicly committed. Things continue to get better and better with Coleman being told to go be mediocre somewhere else. 

    I feel like I need to change the transfer portal thread title now in order to conjure some further dark magic to suit our needs and wants. 

    "2022 Transfer Thread - Quinfinity War"

    He Is Inevitable

     

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  9. 7 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

    Why are people being so defensive about this; is it a Westlake thing? Odds are this guy isn't playing meaningful snaps here, and if he does, the same defensive posters will be over on the football board losing their fucking shit at every mistake he makes.

    It's such classic recruiting board homerism to ratio a guy for daring to predict that a low three star we offered at the last fucking minute has a 50/50 shot to play here. You would think after having our teeth kicked in for 12 years a little skepticism would be allowed. 

    Burke is a weird case as far as rankings. Skewed data set.

    Flew totally under the radar until late this year, expected to play a different sport. Started stacking offers mid-season. The kid didn't even get ranked until December 3, 2021. He's a consensus 3-star, but On3 has him as 4-star. Gerry says he will be in an On3 top-150 player. Absolutely dominated in the playoffs, consistently. 

    I wouldn't view him as 'just another 3-star' when making predictions about him. 

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    34 minutes ago, Getafix said:

     

    Cam Williams' Rating

    Gabe Brooks

    I've talked with Mike about him at length. We think he's anywhere from 350-370 right now. He needs to drop more weight. His tape is solid but it obviously does not stand up to our highly-rated guys of similar size, such as Kiyaunta Goodwin or Tegra Tshabola. He is certainly a high-floor prospect, but his ceiling is a big question mark.

     

    Meanwhile highly acclaimed OL coach and recruiting witch Mario Cristobal sees Williams as having a higher ceiling than Banks. 

    You drop 40 lbs of fat and offset with 10 lbs of added muscle. Speed and agility magically increase. All of a sudden you have a nimble 6'7 340 tackle prospect with massive wingspan and hands big enough to palm a football helmet.

    Definition of a high ceiling. 

  11. 5 hours ago, Bevo said:

    I'm thinking 2OL, 1WR or 2WR if we miss on other targets, possibly 1TE. On defense, 1DE (or pray like hell 1 of the freshmen is ready to play), 2LB, 1CB, 1-2S (probably 2 with one being big enough to spin down). That's 12 total with it split evenly between O and D.

    I'm excited to be proven wrong on this ongoing debate of whether "numbers matter," but we don't have the numbers for this. Based on 33 counters. 

    We sit at 22 HS recruits. We take:

    1. Agbo
    2. Campbell
    3. Red
    4. S (Mathews/LTG)
    5. CB (Harris/Brice)
    6. WR (Winfield)

    That's 28 HS recruits. We would take Brooks. We would take Stewart. We would take Perkins. But call it 28. 

    That leaves 5 spots for transfers. 4 after Ewers.  I want WR, OL, LB, DB. Sounds like DB (Watts) and OL (Dunlap) are in the bag. So 2 open spots. 

    However you slice it, it looks like were taking 2-5 transfers. We also need to process out 8 more current schollies to open those spots, but thats a separate debate. 

     

     

     

  12. Re: replacing Kobie:

    Red has too good of hands and route running to be an LB. His value is APB. He is the Jamarion Miller replacement. He also has value as a wildcat if Sark starts seeing that as an ongoing wrinkle. I like the idea of 210-pounders who can do standing backflips on offense. 

    TJ Dudley would be ideal.

    Tea leaves, I could see the Terrance Gibbs offer being the staff front-running the Kobie de-commitment. Gibbs has LB snaps on tape, his coach has said he plays D and O, and looks like he's around 210-215, if not more. Let him develop as an LB while he heals from the injury. Still don't like the take. 

    I think we take also take an LB portal. I loved the UNLV guy's tape. Staff will probably be patient until after NSD2. 

    Longshots would be Jacoby Mathews or Perkins, both tweeners. Not holding my breath. 

     

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  13. 2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

    Sometimes takes a couple of years for that injury. As a lower end take it's not a bad gamble. Fozzy didn't look nearly the same at first but a few years later he was getting NFL snaps. 

    I don't necessarily disagree.

    However, for this class in particular I would lean away from taking flyers on injured guys with long recovery timelines. We need contributors all throughout the depth chart, ASAP. I could see keeping this guy warm until NSD2, but even then I would rather look to the portal. Also need more durability on the roster. 

  14. 2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

    Ok, no. They've been telling anyone who will listen that they're going to have to fix this thing by breaking it down to the studs and roots and then building it back up. That started becoming mantra after the 4th or 5th buttfucking in a row. That wasn't the song and dance heading into the OU game or the summer. 

    How they're planning on doing it involved a heavy dose of the transfer portal. They're probably doing something stupid and naive by not letting several guys from the portal announce already. If they fuck up the Minnesota lineman because they think they're taking their 4 top targets at OL plus the 2 committed, they've learned nothing over the past 10+ months and that's ... par for the course, I guess.

    The 33 is recruits and transfers. They'll go over that number anyway if they can. Stop worrying about the numbers. They'll always make them make sense and NIL only improves that for every school.

    If you think Texas winds up with only two transfers, you need to get your shit together, seek some help, and rejoin us later when you've rejoined the real world. 

    If you're interested, I'll bet you whatever you want to bet that Texas will take 6 or more transfers this cycle by the transfer deadline, and you can have 5 or less. 

     

    I'm not disagreeing with your first point. But having a certain mantra before OU doesn't mean that that's the same mantra now. I think the coaches clearly misjudged the state of the roster last summer. So going into what they thought was going to be a 9-3/10-2 season, their plan could very well have been to focus more on transfers this cycle and plug any remaining holes. But after the, as you so aptly describe, "4th or 5th buttfucking in a row," I would assume their mindset changed to needing to tear this thing down to the studs and rebuild from the ground up. If I'm a coach, that means shifting to a focus on HS recruiting to get as many fresh-faced dudes in here as possible--I'm not sure you can do a full teardown/rebuild with transfers. 

    And as you point out, I can't think of any good reason for keeping transfer announcements under wraps, except for their focusing being on landing HS recruits--at the risk of losing transfer commitments. 

    To your second point, the basis of my post was on a 33-man counter. If roster rules are no longer relevant--which I have not seen any evidence for that being the case--then yes, anything is possible. Otherwise, I'm working off 25-man counter, 7-man transfer surplus, and limited EE count-backs. I would love to be shown evidence that roster rules no longer matter. 

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