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  1. 3 minutes ago, gmr548 said:


    lol you first quoted me trying to deflect with talking about Beto individually, and now again with Abrams.

    At least Beto was tangentially related to the “Democrats are shitty people because they change their position based on public opinion” hot take. The Abrams thing just isn’t at all. It’s kind of sad to see you sit here and try to find something that makes sense without actually having to produce a substantive response.

    But honestly, while sad, it’s not surprising. I’m a moron for responding to you.

    Abrams is a fat, worthless piece of shit

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  2. 17 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

    Beto is a great guy.  Married a billionaire’s daughter and has never had a real job. Never worked.  He’s everything about white privilege you dipshits profess to hate. 
     

    I watched that little weasel lie in person yesterday about wanting to confiscate guns. What a loser

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  3. On 2/9/2022 at 1:56 PM, jimmyjazz said:

    Really?  Record profits justify price hikes? 

    I think the causality is the other way around.  I mean, I couldn't give a fuck what Sandy Soccer pays for her shitty grande half-lat almond smoothie, but when it skews closer to the every-day man on the street companies (the WalMarts, etc.) then that sucks.  (No accusation against WalMart, I don't pay attention to their quarterly reports.)

    You don't have a strong grasp of how economics works, do you?

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  4. 2 hours ago, Message Board User said:

    Now 8 losses in a row for Brooklyn, dropping them to the 7 spot behind Toronto.  Kyrie played 41 minutes; Harden 0.

    Is Harden injured or healthy scratch?

  5. 3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


    Cool. Nice concept.

    HOW?

    Y’all are looking at a punch bowl that is functionally all tires with a splash of punch, and saying “all ya gotta do is fish out the turds.” Shit, you’re looking at a body riddled with the most metastasized cancer ever seen, and saying “just cut out the cancer.” HOW?

    Answer: it can’t be done.

    Why don't you work on figuring that out? I was simply pointing out that he offered the same solution that you did

  6. 1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

    Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
    -- President Bill Clinton (State of the Union Address), Jan. 27, 1998


    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998


    "No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing.  He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.""Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998


    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
    -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998


    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001    

    "I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries.  I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."

    -- Sen. John Edwards (D, NC) Feb. 24, 2002

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
    -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.   We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."   "
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


    "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated.  He must be disarmed.  We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Edward Kennedy (D, MA) Sep. 27, 2002

    "Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein.  He is a brutal man.  A ruthless man.  A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.  He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.  He's a bad guy.  The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."
    -- State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois) Oct. 2, 2002

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002


    "My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."

    -- Senator John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

    "We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction.  It has refused to take those steps.  That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."
    -- Sen. Harry Reid (D. NV) Oct. 9, 2002



    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002


    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
    -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    "I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities.  I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein.  ...  Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein.  Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."  
    -- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D. CA) Oct. 10, 2002


    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002


    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

    "People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
    -- Ex President Bill Clinton, Jul. 22, 2003 (Interview with CNN Larry King)


    I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration.  And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction.  What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis.  It cannot happen.  We have to prevent it from happening. 

    -- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D, MT) Nov. 2, 2003
     

    But...but TRUMP!!!

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  7. 9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Cool.

    Tell me how you're going to get the police to accept any of that when their sacrosanct, inviolable attitude is "fuck you, peasant, submit and comply.  And any of you fellow cops step outta line, we'll drum you out?"

    There is no reforming American law enforcement.  It is so permeated with this attitude that it is irredeemable.  There is no good answer.  The only way to get rid of the poison that permeates all of law enforcement....is to get rid of law enforcement and completely start over from a blank slate.  But that's a shitty answer, because we need law enforcement in the interim. And they KNOW that....so they have no incentive to reform, because "fuck you -- wadda ya gonna do when we're gone?"

    American law enforcement now completely sees themselves as an occupying military force, and we are the hostile civilian population that has to be kept in line, by any means they see fit. 

    He said purge the police force 

  8. 1 minute ago, TexasEd said:

    Amber Guyger tried this too.

     

    The only purpose of the "legal gun" comment I can see is to avert the victim blaming

    It could have been a remote control, a spoon for eating ice cream, maybe a putter.

    Exactly. The point(poorly worded as it was) I was making was that it wouldn't have mattered if there was a gun present or not. I think they were going in guns-a-blazin, period. I'm not a fan of no knock warrants, or cops for that matter. 

  9. 11 minutes ago, mchookem said:

    i mean...yes?? 🤨

    story: http://specials.mystatesman.com/no-knock-warrants/

    he was def hanging with a bad crowd...as do a lot of kids. he was no angel..but he had no record at all, never arrested for anything. he was a stupid kid. i mean...they lived in gotdamn Crestview, he went to McCallum HS, we're not talking about a rough/tough kid here who grew up in the hood...i mean he wouldn't even play football despite being huge bc he didn't like hitting people!

    but the family are/were big 2nd amendment proponents*, so yeah there were a good number of guns in the house, all registered and legal, they would go to shooting ranges and hunt regularly (we'd even gone with a few times).

    another kid got arrested and gave them a 'tip' that he was some cartel-connected drug kingpin and APD ran with that 🙄 absolutely ridiculous. 

    i was in the courtroom the day APD testified about the surveillance...they admitted they observed no illegal or even suspicious activity.

    the 'evidence of drugs' found in the trash was just as likely his father's who is/was a regular pot smoker. like every third poster here lol.

    what really did him in was fucking social media...posting stupid shit on IG with his friends, posing with blunts and a pic with the AK which his dad bought. that was their big justification.

    anyway...dad was not home, just him and mom, awoken at dawn to someone busting in the front door and mom screaming...he grabbed the gun (kept in easy reach when dad was gone for work, to protect mom etc 🙄) and shot, to protect their home as he'd been taught. yes he is lucky he is not dead, they both are, only bc he was firing from upstairs.

    and literally seconds later, they realized it was police, he stopped firing and gave up, laid down, etc. 

    it's def a hard lesson and to his credit he recognizes how stupid he was to even be orbiting that world... it's just a fucking travesty how it played out and how his life has effectively been ruined bc he was trying to be 'cool' 😕...but mostly bc APD had a hard on for this shit back then. 

    anyways... that's the story.

     

     

     

    (*there's a legitimate conversation to be had about how different his life might have turned out if they simply weren't big gun enthusiasts, from the social media aspect to the 'shoot first ask questions later' defensive posture to the shooting itself...at worst he might be on probation for a minimal drug charge. but i know it's impossible to have that conversation without 'going CR' and frankly it's pointless.)

    If not for a few, it could be possible. This discussion need not have anything to do with politics. 

    Question: is there no hope he can successfully appeal the conviction? Seems like it's pretty clear his perception was that the house was being invaded and he was defending himself.

  10. 14 minutes ago, Bookman said:

    Ummm, yeah. We have these things called "prisons," and there's probably one near you. If you go there, you will find more than one person convicted of those crimes.

    Oh ok bro, didn't know they were part of an organization. Thanks for the information 

  11. 2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    If particular situation is a grift (vs sloppiness or ignorance) it should be sniffed out. 
     

    same with any trump related scams. 
     

    I don’t care to play teams when people are stealing money from other people. 
     

     

    It only took 7 posts for the "But Trump!" mantra. Congratulations on your restraint 

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