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I know TX certainly has talented players and might do just fine at OL - I'm just responding to the poster who seemed to think the OSU line was completely revamped. The only loss from the CFP line was Jackson - which was a big one of course, but the other returnees all showed out well last year. I think the bigger issue for OSU is replacing both the OC and the OL position coach - that has potential to really screw things up for a while. I think OL coach Frye did an incredible job last season....and apparently the NFL thought so too.
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For OSU, 4/5 OL positions are returning starters. Talent/experience-wise, I would take OSU at OL, WR (easily), TE, defensive secondary. Perhaps at RB depending on TX health status. I think talent and experience are more or less a wash overall between the two teams. As stated in my initial post, I'd give TX with a slight advantage at QB because of Manning's game experience, and a bigger advantage on the sideline because OSU is breaking in new coordinators. If forced to predict I'd say TX wins 28-24 but one play could break the game in either direction.
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Most OSU message-board fans I've seen are not super excited about Patricia and expect some pains in the early going. He was not a popular hire (especially compared to Knowles, who was somewhat of a slam dunk). Scuttlebutt from fall camp is that things have been going well with him so far, but there's really nothing else to say about it until we see something on the field to judge him by.
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Smart play - gotta keep the money-maker mug in optimal working condition. FWIW the wife and I made the return trip to Austin in '06, our first visit to Texas, and we had an outstanding time. I think the UT fans probably went out of their way even more than usual to play the counterpoint to their experience the year before, and were overly hospitable to the point of near annoyance. It was a great intro to the town and a large part of the reason we live here now.
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Man, I hate hearing stories like this. There's no defense for it. I think the lack of history actually aggravated the situation, since the "first ever game" hype was so massive. Later that same season I went to the whiteout game at PSU, one of the first they had, and we were treated much the same way - the wife and I were both afraid for our safety while we tried to make our way back to the car afterwards, groups of frat boys and drunk divorced dads coming up in our faces the whole way to shout and intimidate. Mrs Borrominion is never going back to Happy Valley. Anyway I only mention it because I can relate and it stinks to have our fanbase associated with it. I really doubt it will be anywhere near that hostile this Saturday, but I don't blame any Texas fans for skipping this trip.
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Pretty cool that you found yourself on that broadcast! I actually snuck into that game - we were living in Philadelphia at the time and weren't planning to attend, but got caught up in the hype and decided to drive out the night before. We got to the stadium without tickets - and there were none to be found. No scalpers. Not just expensive, but nonexistent. We had almost settled on watching the game from the Varsity Club when my wife decided to try to sneak in with the entourage around the marching band. (I had been in the band while in school so we were familiar with the routine). We just placed ourselves in the middle of the pack of band guests who all had field passes, and walked right in the main gates with a police escort. When we got close to field level we jumped out of the pack and ran to the upper deck to find my dad, who was sitting alone and for whatever reason in that madhouse there were two empty seats right next to him waiting for us. Drunk kids that didn't show up, I guess. It all felt like fate, meant to be a glorious night that would go down in OSU history. It panned out that way too, until Sweed caught the pass.
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I can't argue much (although I suggest you might try a night game at Penn State!). Not an excuse but by way of explanation, night games were still rare in '05 and the hype for that game was off the charts. The environment has definitely gotten a lot more corporate, stale, and tame in the intervening years.
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This clip brings up three thoughts: - Man, I miss Musberger - It is so frustrating that this Saturday isn't a night game. I mean, come on now. - That 2005 loss was SO aggravating. It felt like 10 individual plays should have broken differently and any of them would have made the difference (Hamby's drop, the botched safety on the KO return, Ginn getting tripped by his own guy on a potential return TD, the dumbnity of our squib kick before halftime that allowed TX a late FG, etc etc). It's still in the top-5 most annoying losses of my lifetime, I think. (On the flip side, by the time you played for the national title I hated USC so much that I was doing happy laps around the apartment when Vince scored that TD).
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From an OSU fan perspective, I don't think the outlook is "greatest OL ever" (Orlando Pace isn't suiting up, anyway) rather than just a sense of relief that the unit is more likely to be a strength for once after seeming to hold things back during the Stroud-McCord years. It's desperately needed with a green QB, of course.
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Thanks to you and all the others for the great answers. I had kind of forgotten about Baxter because of the injury - hope that he's back to good health. Seems like there is plenty of production ready to go in that position - IMO it may be the key of the game for TX. I think Manning will have his moments of success but I don't think TX can win with a pass-first approach...the OSU secondary should be pretty stellar this year, and even with inexperience at DL the pass rush should be dangerous too. But if TX can establish the run game better than it did last year and put pressure on OSU's front 7 accordingly, they'll have a much easier time of things.
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