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Horn Dog

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  1. 1 hour ago, realgreggym said:

    Despite the fact that you are a piece of crap, I am going to answer. I don't have white guilt. Thats your liberal crap. When I was in college, I had a couple of black teammates. One was from inner city Houston and the other was from a small town in east Texas. Both were good kids and worked hard in the classroom. The problem was that despite that, they came from poor schools and couldn't handle college. Both were gone after their freshman year.

    I thought that was horrible and decided if I was ever in a position to do anything, that I would.

    That has nothing to do with white guilt. It has to do with giving a damn about others. You should try it sometimes.

     

    Thats a real cool story.  One question, you say that your black teammates came from poor schools and “couldn’t handle college so had to drop out.”  Why exactly do you think it helps to pay for college tution for a handful of kids coming from schools that have left them ill prepared to succeed while at the same time supporting policies and politicians who specifically want to starve these inner city schools of funds and resources?  It sounds like your old teammates should find you and kick you in the nuts.

     

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  2. 59 minutes ago, realgreggym said:

    Be careful what you wish for.

    BTW, I have put more blacks and illegal Mexican kids through college on my nickel than you and 99% of your side  has so your talk is cheap.

    White guilt is for realz y’all!

    Do you buy your wife a nice dress after beating the shit out of her too?

  3. If trump’s trade war can simultaneously....

    - get China’s attention and stop them from ripping off our nation’s intellectual property

    - leave his hardcore MAGA supporters bankrupt and destitute 

    - rip the party of Putin into shreds and walking the desert for a generation 

    -decrease the number of BMW driving assholes on the road

    ...well, then I may have to rethink my opposition.  

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  4. 44 minutes ago, Pancho Negro said:

     

    LOL... my favorite is the red headed barber shop client who imagines Trump running into a burning building to save children.  Hoe Lee Fuk!  A ginger and a dribbling moron..life delt out a really tough hand.  

  5. 1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

    Will probably be voting for Va. democrat Tim Kaine in Nov.

    Are you sure?   A dem vote over supporting a white supremacist like  Corey Stewart?  I know it's a difficult decision cause there are so many factors to consider, but  if you really do this I applaud your portrait of courage with such an impossible choice.

     

    Narrator:   He didn't.... 

  6. 19 minutes ago, Hate said:

    Well, here is what I stand for and you tell me how I should vote:

    1.  I'm against open borders, but I do support legal immigration.  I did not agree with the "Syrian airlift" that Obama started and that Clinton wanted to double.  

    2.  I wouldn't say I support abortion as I think the idea is abhorrent, but I realize that as a society we are probably better off without thousands of unwanted and unsupported kids.

    3.  I support "Republican" platforms as far as the economy goes.  I'm not one of those that pretends that Republicans care about the debt more than the Democrats, because neither has shown that they do.  

    4.  I didn't agree with the Iran deal or the Paris Climate change deal. 

    5.  I didn't agree with the ACA being shoved down our throats.  

    6.  I support gay marriage.

    7.  I support legal and the decriminalization of other drugs.  I would commute marijuana sentences and turn those empty prison beds into treatment centers.

     

    These are just a few off the top of my head.  

    So out of 7 items, you agree with the Dems on 4 (and perhaps 5 items).... interesting.

  7. 51 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

    So you’d like for millions of people to lose their jobs in a recession?  To give them a wake up call?  Some patriot you are. 

    Would it be more patriotic to hope that millions of people  lose their health care, in order to send a wake up call?  How about their children?

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  8. I wonder if the dinasours had a prehistoric Fox News equivalent right before the comet wiped it all out.   If I go outside and see a big ball of fire in the sky tonight, I would be a bit sad, but not at all suprised and pretty understanding of why.

  9. 1 hour ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

    Trump was a draft dodger. Why is the coward on a tank?

    Bullshit.  Trump had his own personal Vietnam slaying hairy clap infested 70s pussy and worn out post porn star HPV infested pussy in the 00s.... often bareback.  He is a fearless brave warrior.  Many are saying the bravest of all time.

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  10. 29 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

    I'll be handling the naval battles out on Lake Michigan.  I'll be armed with hookers, blow and shit tons of booze.  Wish me luck comrades. 

    You’re gonna need a right hand man.

  11. 6 hours ago, Mole said:

    They should do that and it would be progress and would objectively demonstrate how terrible he is. He's bad enough without the bump. Just report his words honestly and with context. Let him discredit himself. Unfortunately, they don't do that or when they do, they remove the necessary context and fill in their own twisted context.

    The idea that claiming the media aren't covering him objectively is somehow an endorsement or an excuse for him (not necessarily coming from the quoted post, but it's in this thread) just isn't honest. It's possible for Trump to be terrible (he is really bad) and the media to be dishonest about him (they're lying to us about how bad he is).

    As far as an example of Trump's terribleness being exaggerated, my recent goto is the "animals" quote a few weeks back. C-SPAN, typically a bastion of objectivity tweeted out an out of context quote which was then spun by everyone as Trump calling all brown people, or at least all those crossing the border "animals." On this board, there was a tweet from Jesuit priest who described this language as reminiscent of the words of those who perpetuate genocide. This priest was seen as a hero. The problem is that Trump didn't actually say what everyone claimed he was saying. If you go and watch the context of the discussion (also covered by C-SPAN), he was clearly talking about MS-13 members when he used the "animals" line. If you want to argue that it's wrong to call even the worst among us "animals," I'm right with you, but you need to honestly report his words. Arguing for the inherent dignity of murders is far different than arguing for the dignity of everyone crossing the border. We went from Trump saying something that some (such as myself) would find terrible and turned it into a step towards genocide. Even C-SPAN had a hand in it by removing the quote from context. 

    There was some pushback on this and so something of a correction was issued, but the dishonest damage was done. It isn't that hard to report his words honestly and taking one line out of context and filling in an entirely different context is more or less lying. That Trump may have said some gnarly racial things in the past doesn't justify lying about this one.

    Responding to this with examples of how Trump is worse doesn't justify the dishonesty. Calling this "both sidism" doesn't justify the dishonesty. A lie is a lie even with your team is saying it.

    Thank you for responding with a concrete example.  I think you have a valid point in this case, however there are a few things that need to be pointed out.

    1.  CSPAN sent out a tweet quoting the president’s words.  Yes, I agree the quote is out of context but it requires quite a bit of explaination to understand the full context and that context can be easily missed.  I had to watch that video twice and pay really close attention to see what you were trying to say, and although I agree with you now, I can see how it could easily be missed in real time.

    2.  The real issue seems to be that others picked up this tweet and started new tweets with their commentary.  This was not a news story, but rather a tweet that got distorted as it was repeated.  I don’t know that this is really an example of the MSN running a false news story, but rather an example of how social media and specifically Twiiter have made it so that anyone can now be a “journalist”, and how “news” loses context as it is passed around without oversight.  This was not as much an issue previous presidents had to contend with and will likely get worse as technology advances.

    3.  Trump speaks like a fucking moron and its very very difficult to keep correct context with what he is saying.  He goes off on tangents.  He changes subject matter mid sentence.  He is asked about one subject and seamlessly addresses another.  It is not necessarily dishonesty to get mixed up on full context when reporting his quotes because it is often the case that context is unclear. It doesn’t help that he lies constantly, denies previous statements, and changes context afterwards.  It seems to me a nearly impossible task to report on Trump and provide true correct context in a real time basis and not mess up occasionally.  

    In short I think the large large majority of MSM journalists are doing the best the can with a very tough subject and the idea that there is an active attempt to report him in a dishonest way is highly overstated.

  12. 18 minutes ago, Mole said:

     

    Likewise, Trump is terrible, but the media coverage of him hasn't been honest about his terribleness. Rather than simply report him, there's a need to exaggerate to the point of dishonesty. So if someone says how terrible Trump is, that's an accurate statement. If someone discusses the dishonesty of the media towards him (as Trump likes to do), that's also an accurate statement.

    Can you give some specific examples of MSM coverage of Trump that is “exaggerated to the point of dishonesty”.  News is a business so stories are often sensentionalized for attention, but that is hardly a new thing.  Not errors that were quickly corrected, opinion/commentary pieces, or stories in obscure corners of the internet, but true mainstream  journalistic pieces that are blatantly false or out of the normal range for coverage of national leaders.   Not saying false MSM stories don’t exist but it’s really hard to judge the validity of this assertion  without concrete examples.  I don’t follow it real close, but the times I have seen Trump complain of “dishonest coverage” it is simply coverage of true events that he doesn’t want covered. 

  13. 9 hours ago, Pods said:

    It's going to be Kavanaugh. He's the biggest proponent of executive power. He'll vote that Trump can't be investigated. 

     

    Yup Kananaugh, the philosophical purist who once helped lead the Clinton impeachment over a BJ, and who now opposes any presidential investigations will be the pick.  In other news, the hens have elected the fox as their new head of security.  

  14. 1 hour ago, Vince_McCoy_Williams said:

     

    Also, forcing someone to buy insurance or face a mandatory penalty is an invasion of liberty. So I think you have that a bit twisted, as it has nothing to do with cost of premiums and everything to do with the government forcing you to buy a product or face a penalty. 

    I would agree with this if when the person who refuses to buy insurance is given no care and allowed to die when he gets in a car wreck or has a heart attack and needs said insurance.  Instead, he gets the care he would have had with or without insurance and now that 200k bill is passed on to me via higher premiums or higher taxes.  So now my individual freedom is being infringed because I have to pay for individuals bad decisions....but I guess this kind of welfare is ok.  

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