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@Bevo so what, exactly is your point? Do you think that we're ok with what other countries do with our money but not Israel, or that we shouldn't criticize Israel because we are also allied with/fund other countries that also commit atrocities?
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12 minutes ago, Bevo said:
Really sad and pathetic to cut off his quote there.
Again, this is the Israel thread. Stop deflecting.
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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:
Why are these people called settlers? They are religious fanatics
They're terrorists. It's state-sponsored terror. There is no more accurate description.
33 minutes ago, Bevo said:If you want to be taken seriously, you shouldn't deliberately misinterpret what was said. But now that you brought it up, please explain the system whereby each country is held to a different standard. What standard is set for Russia in Ukraine? How about China? How about Yemen, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia? How about Sudan, Nigeria, Mali? Who sets the standard and what is the process for setting the standard? Once the standard is set, who enforces it and how is it enforced?
This is the Israel thread, in case you're lost.
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Posting this in both DT and CR, very longcat Facebook post from a HS friend of mine who is a defense attorney and whose wife is the exact kind of US citizen who is being threatened by Trump's policies. Spoilering because quite long but worth the read.
SpoilerHOW TO TALK TO, ABOUT, AND WITH YOUR LATINO FRIENDS DURING THIS TIME
Look, I'm not going to sugarcoat this. As an attorney, we are in dire straits in this country with regards to "immigration." Whatever you think about so-called "illegal immigration," the scope of DHS activities, ICE, and CBP has gone far, far beyond merely enforcing existing immigration laws against undocumented persons. As a matter of verifiable fact, the authorities are taking steps to DENATURALIZE citizens, end birthright citizenship, and according to the vice president, make citizenship in this country a matter of who your ancestors were, not whether you've met the legal requirements for citizenship. Stephen Miller does not care whether you were born here, born to US parents, or earned your citizenship with tests and long years spent under a visa or green card. Stephen Miller hates the color of your skin and will do anything he can to remove you from the country.
This kind of blood and soil nationalism is infuriating, threatening, and maddening to white Americans who can trace their ancestry back to the colonial times. So... let's imagine, for a moment, how your Latino friends feel.
Those of you who grew up in the Southwest know that many Latin Americans did not cross the border; the border crossed them. As the US expanded westward, we took, bought, or recovered land by treaty from Spain and Mexico, turning many formerly Spanish subjects or Mexican citizens into US territorial subjects or citizens of Texas, California, Arizona, New Mexico, and so forth.
So it is wrong, at the outset, to treat Latin Americans as a class of "immigrants." Many of them have been living in the same area for hundreds of years more than the United States has expanded this far westward.
But others of them did come across a border once established in the 1800s. The problem is: the government sees no difference between these people. Whether they are Native American, European, African, Caribbean, or some mixture thereof in ancestry, all Latin Americans in the United States are painted with the same broad brush: they are Othered, they are held to suspicion of having come here "illegally," and they are subject to deportation.
Living as I have the past 23 years with a Latina, let me tell you the horrific things that get said to her: asking about her green card (she is a US citizen by birth), making jokes about "going back" or "deportation" (she has more right to be here than most Anglo Americans), or worse, the kind of smarmy self-regard that well-meaning centrists and liberals toss out to her.
[Wife's name redacted] has been told, "oh, don't worry, you're not the type they're looking for" or "it's OK, you're one of the good ones." Or worse, when she voices her very real fear that one power-tripping ICE agent could arrest her, detain her, and force her to prove her US citizenship over a challenge to "birthright citizenship" or even "denaturalization," people tell her not to harsh their vibes, that thinking about that ruins everyone's good time, and that she shouldn't be inflicting that kind of worry on people when it's not likely to happen to /her/.
And there is alot of understated, implicit racism in all of that. Many people forget that because Becky doesn't have an accent, is married to a white guy, and sits comfortably in the upper middle class that she's Latina. Among our white friends especially, she gets coded white because of her relation to me, her interests, and what we do. People rarely get to hear her speak Spanish (which she does well) or see her dance to Tejano and norteno music. You don't get to hear her talk to her family in Spanglish or celebrate Dia de Los Muertos or Diezyseis or other Mexican holidays (NOT Cinco de Gringo). And because of that, you often forget... she's as much a Mexican citizen as a US.
Her father was a Mexican citizen. Her mother is a US citizen. But she was born across the river, in Mexico. Her birth certificate is Mexican; we have a certificate of live birth recording her birth and status as a US citizen. So yes, the proposed changes to the 14th Amendment understanding of birthright citizenship (that we deny citizenship to children of two foreign subject parents born on US soil) would not necessarily affect her... but we've already seen them apply the same logic to US citizens by birth born abroad or born to foreign national parents. It is not a big leap from "denaturalize the children of foreign nationals born on US soil" to "reject the citizenship of US children born abroad to only one US citizen parent."
And even if I could (because I'm not a bad attorney, and I know some excellent immigration lawyers) successfully argue that her case should be dismissed, that would still require her to spend nights, maybe weeks or months, in cruel conditions in ICE detention, cost us untold amounts of money in retainers or my lost time from work dealing with it, and leave us both scarred and traumatized by the experience.
And this is something we have to think about every time we leave the house or when we travel. When Becky was coming back in through customs after a cruise this past April, I sat in trembling anxiety until I heard that she cleared customs. And again, we are fortunate enough that we have CLEAR and Global Entry, but all it would take is one power tripping customs agent to pull her aside and then I'm on a flight to Miami to try to get her out.
So please, please, please, when you're discussing the political situation regarding immigration (and I think I have curated my FB list enough that most, if not everyone, agrees with our political position on this) understand that it is very real for some of your friends. And for those that are Latin American, don't do things like call them one of the "good ones" (implying that others, or even most Latin Americans, are "bad ones" or not good) or suggest that having the financial resources necessary or being covered by the white privilege of a partner or friend will do any good.
All you need to do is look through the news to see that masked ICE goons are indiscriminately assaulting and arresting anyone they deem sufficiently suspicious of violating immigration laws, e.g., having more melanin than the average American. You can be as white-passing as you want, if an ICE agent sees your last name is "Rodriguez," prepare for additional scrutiny.
And sadly, judges and local law enforcement are not doing enough to reign them in. If you live in a comfortable blue state where your governor is taking steps to reduce ICE's power and exclude their operations, I envy you. For those of us trapped in red states, there's a very real fear that a trip to the mall to buy clothes could end up in handcuffs or worse.
A little sensitivity is going to go a long way. And understanding that there's a special dimension to trauma to your Latin American friends goes even further. It won't hurt us to be careful with how we speak and examine the concepts and language we employ, even if unintentionally, for how that language comes across and who our audience is.-
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Posting this in both DT and CR, very longcat Facebook post from a HS friend of mine who is a defense attorney and whose wife is the exact kind of US citizen who is being threatened by Trump's policies. Spoilering because quite long but worth the read.
SpoilerHOW TO TALK TO, ABOUT, AND WITH YOUR LATINO FRIENDS DURING THIS TIME
Look, I'm not going to sugarcoat this. As an attorney, we are in dire straits in this country with regards to "immigration." Whatever you think about so-called "illegal immigration," the scope of DHS activities, ICE, and CBP has gone far, far beyond merely enforcing existing immigration laws against undocumented persons. As a matter of verifiable fact, the authorities are taking steps to DENATURALIZE citizens, end birthright citizenship, and according to the vice president, make citizenship in this country a matter of who your ancestors were, not whether you've met the legal requirements for citizenship. Stephen Miller does not care whether you were born here, born to US parents, or earned your citizenship with tests and long years spent under a visa or green card. Stephen Miller hates the color of your skin and will do anything he can to remove you from the country.
This kind of blood and soil nationalism is infuriating, threatening, and maddening to white Americans who can trace their ancestry back to the colonial times. So... let's imagine, for a moment, how your Latino friends feel.
Those of you who grew up in the Southwest know that many Latin Americans did not cross the border; the border crossed them. As the US expanded westward, we took, bought, or recovered land by treaty from Spain and Mexico, turning many formerly Spanish subjects or Mexican citizens into US territorial subjects or citizens of Texas, California, Arizona, New Mexico, and so forth.
So it is wrong, at the outset, to treat Latin Americans as a class of "immigrants." Many of them have been living in the same area for hundreds of years more than the United States has expanded this far westward.
But others of them did come across a border once established in the 1800s. The problem is: the government sees no difference between these people. Whether they are Native American, European, African, Caribbean, or some mixture thereof in ancestry, all Latin Americans in the United States are painted with the same broad brush: they are Othered, they are held to suspicion of having come here "illegally," and they are subject to deportation.
Living as I have the past 23 years with a Latina, let me tell you the horrific things that get said to her: asking about her green card (she is a US citizen by birth), making jokes about "going back" or "deportation" (she has more right to be here than most Anglo Americans), or worse, the kind of smarmy self-regard that well-meaning centrists and liberals toss out to her.
[Wife's name redacted] has been told, "oh, don't worry, you're not the type they're looking for" or "it's OK, you're one of the good ones." Or worse, when she voices her very real fear that one power-tripping ICE agent could arrest her, detain her, and force her to prove her US citizenship over a challenge to "birthright citizenship" or even "denaturalization," people tell her not to harsh their vibes, that thinking about that ruins everyone's good time, and that she shouldn't be inflicting that kind of worry on people when it's not likely to happen to /her/.
And there is alot of understated, implicit racism in all of that. Many people forget that because Becky doesn't have an accent, is married to a white guy, and sits comfortably in the upper middle class that she's Latina. Among our white friends especially, she gets coded white because of her relation to me, her interests, and what we do. People rarely get to hear her speak Spanish (which she does well) or see her dance to Tejano and norteno music. You don't get to hear her talk to her family in Spanglish or celebrate Dia de Los Muertos or Diezyseis or other Mexican holidays (NOT Cinco de Gringo). And because of that, you often forget... she's as much a Mexican citizen as a US.
Her father was a Mexican citizen. Her mother is a US citizen. But she was born across the river, in Mexico. Her birth certificate is Mexican; we have a certificate of live birth recording her birth and status as a US citizen. So yes, the proposed changes to the 14th Amendment understanding of birthright citizenship (that we deny citizenship to children of two foreign subject parents born on US soil) would not necessarily affect her... but we've already seen them apply the same logic to US citizens by birth born abroad or born to foreign national parents. It is not a big leap from "denaturalize the children of foreign nationals born on US soil" to "reject the citizenship of US children born abroad to only one US citizen parent."
And even if I could (because I'm not a bad attorney, and I know some excellent immigration lawyers) successfully argue that her case should be dismissed, that would still require her to spend nights, maybe weeks or months, in cruel conditions in ICE detention, cost us untold amounts of money in retainers or my lost time from work dealing with it, and leave us both scarred and traumatized by the experience.
And this is something we have to think about every time we leave the house or when we travel. When Becky was coming back in through customs after a cruise this past April, I sat in trembling anxiety until I heard that she cleared customs. And again, we are fortunate enough that we have CLEAR and Global Entry, but all it would take is one power tripping customs agent to pull her aside and then I'm on a flight to Miami to try to get her out.
So please, please, please, when you're discussing the political situation regarding immigration (and I think I have curated my FB list enough that most, if not everyone, agrees with our political position on this) understand that it is very real for some of your friends. And for those that are Latin American, don't do things like call them one of the "good ones" (implying that others, or even most Latin Americans, are "bad ones" or not good) or suggest that having the financial resources necessary or being covered by the white privilege of a partner or friend will do any good.
All you need to do is look through the news to see that masked ICE goons are indiscriminately assaulting and arresting anyone they deem sufficiently suspicious of violating immigration laws, e.g., having more melanin than the average American. You can be as white-passing as you want, if an ICE agent sees your last name is "Rodriguez," prepare for additional scrutiny.
And sadly, judges and local law enforcement are not doing enough to reign them in. If you live in a comfortable blue state where your governor is taking steps to reduce ICE's power and exclude their operations, I envy you. For those of us trapped in red states, there's a very real fear that a trip to the mall to buy clothes could end up in handcuffs or worse.
A little sensitivity is going to go a long way. And understanding that there's a special dimension to trauma to your Latin American friends goes even further. It won't hurt us to be careful with how we speak and examine the concepts and language we employ, even if unintentionally, for how that language comes across and who our audience is.-
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15:00 is the timestamp if the link doesn't work right, but this fold is atrocious.
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What do you guys think about WSOP giving Will Kassouf a 10 second shot clock?
I think it's karma because the guy is absolutely unbearable, I would rather listen to Martin Kabrhel 100 times out of 100 over this dipshit.
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10 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:
Whether the criticism is “more strident” or not, do you disagree that the criticism is warranted?
Because bitching about who gets criticized more loudly is an irrelevant distraction. But “irrelevant distraction” pretty much sums up your contributions on this board.
Weird how the criticism of Israel is loudest in the thread about Israel, isn't it?
I suppose we could start the "The 'We Actually Did 9/11' Country Has Been Genociding Yemen For 10 Years And Yet They're Still Our Allies" thread so we can criticize Saudi Arabia. Plenty of places we can take this.
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Israel
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1 hour ago, statsman said:When 10-7 mastermind Yahya Sinwar, who as a young Hamas enforcer probably killed more Palestinians than almost any IDF soldier, was killed, Albanese noted the way the IDF killed him “…was quite inhumane. I don’t belief this is justice.”
Oops. Hey, maybe she is just a St. Francis of Assisi type, with a caring heart for all life.
Interesting, I was unable to find a source for this quote with not "beliefing" this is justice, aside from the Facebook comment you pulled it from. It's certainly not in the NPR article the Facebook post was linking to. Could you provide a real source, please?
1 hour ago, statsman said:I understand that reactionary conservatives such as yourself hate context. It'll be ok, little guy, it won't hurt you. Let's go ahead and provide the full quote:
1 hour ago, statsman said:Oh, but hey, she’s not an anti-Semite. It’s not like she goes around repeating hackneyed anti-Semitic tropes like Jews are solely motivated by greed
“While life in Gaza is being obliterated and the West Bank is under escalating assault, this report shows why Israel’s genocide continues: because it is lucrative for many,” (Albanese’s) report says.
This is an absolutely pathetic attempt at accusing someone of antisemitism. Let's dive into the full context of this report:
Global firms ‘profiting from genocide’ in Gaza, says UN rapporteur | Israel-Gaza war | The Guardian
“While political leaders and governments shirk their obligations, far too many corporate entities have profited from Israel’s economy of illegal occupation, apartheid and, now, genocide,” the report says.
The US technology firm Palantir comes under particular criticism in the Albanese report for its close partnership with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), with which the company agreed a strategic partnership for Palantir to assist its “war-related missions”.
The Albanese report also criticises heavy equipment manufacturers such as Caterpillar and Volvo for allegedly supplying heavy machinery used in mass demolitions of homes, mosques and infrastructure in Gaza and the West Bank.
Oh wow! Looks like her report wasn't referring to Jewish people at all, but actually a collection of international corporations that are clearly profiting off Israel's genocide. How embarrassing for you, you pathetic little weasel. You should be embarrassed, but I'm not sure you have the capacity for shame.
1 hour ago, statsman said:…or that there is some kind of shadowy Jewish conspiracy…
October 2024, Albanese retweeted with the caption “A must-read for the ages...” a tweet from Chris Hedges that read: “I fear, given that the Israel lobby has bought and paid for Congress and the two ruling parties, as well as cowed the media and universities, the rivers of blood will continue to swell. There is money to be made in war. A lot of it. And the influence of the war industry, buttressed by hundreds of millions of dollars spent on political campaigns by the Zionists, will be a formidable barrier to peace, not to mention sanity.”
So, she’s just your innocent moral crusader supporting murderous terrorists in their quest to kill Jews, in support of the larger goal to suppress a Jewish conspiracy to make money by controlling the world. (Note- the spoiled quotes are just a sample. There are a lot more).
There are accusations of financial impropriety, but that looks like penny ante stuff compared to what is out there and available (Sinwar was worth $3B when he died). I have to assume she is a true believer.
The hilarious part is you don't realize that by continuously conflating Zionism with Judaism, you're actually the one being antisemitic. That's what cracks me up about idiot reactionary conservatives like yourself. You're just entirely oblivious to how fucking stupid you sound. The Zionists this tweet is referring to are American lobby groups (like the ADL, who has exposed itself as a completely clown shoes operation) and American Zionists, most of whom are not Jewish.
You are really fucking bad at this and you should just give up before you embarrass yourself even further.
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16 hours ago, aggie08 said:
Man, remember when everyone randomly cared about Iran's nuclear capability for about two full weeks? Seems so long ago.
Still plenty of other countries for Israel to bomb!
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3 hours ago, TXSooner518 said:
Disagree that “trying to protect your stack” is how you win a 10,000 person poker tournament. Getting into giant pots with massive massive equity advantages is though, which then allows you to cover other players so you don’t bust when you lose flips or get coolered also.
And postflop, SPR was just over 1 vs a range that is mostly overpairs. Postflop played itself.I agree with everything you're saying I just think the early days of the main event are way tighter than any other tourney and most people tend to not make standard plays in an effort to not get involved in giant pots unless they flop quads or something. You're so deep and seeing so many hands that you can build up a really nice stack without a ton of risk as long as you're smart.
On the flip side, Loquet's play is far from what you'd normally expect someone to do early-ish on in the main event and he got rewarded for an insanely aggressive play considering he was below the bottom of what his range should be there.
I'm sure he knew exactly what his opponent had. I can only imagine the fucking rager I would get if I knew for sure that my opponent had rockets and I flop top set in the main event. Literally the #1 wet dream of an exploitative player.
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Lol ok, you're going to impose sanctions on a person. Got it. Good one, little Marco.
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9 hours ago, Homesickhorn said:
You’re right, he’s dead. A good man that I’ve known most of my life, who loved people of all walks of life. He died trying to save campers, and this post will probably get negged because it’s emotionally charged, but fuck you.Sorry about your friend.
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8 hours ago, TXSooner518 said:
I significantly disagree. Take as many chips as you can get as a 4:1 favorite. Also you’re also making him fold AQs/AK which we are even more dominant against. Also if he calls more and folds flops with an over and no 9 he isn’t even fully realizing his 18% equity.
You're 100% right in a vacuum and in any other tourney, and I know it sounds like I'm being results-oriented with regard to this specific hand.
I just think that (in the main event specifically) protecting your stack is just as, if not more, important than getting it in good as a heavy favorite. In this spot, you have a strong stack and your opponent has already put in more chips preflop than you would usually be able to extract from a weaker pair postflop (again, in the main event specifically). If they're calling your 6-bet jam you're dominating them either way and they definitely don't have 9s.
Either way, his post flop action was not great.
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42 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:
There are 2 or 3 posters who will swear on a grave that I am that lunatic in the face of all reason and evidence. idk
If you somehow are animal tobacco, which I don't necessarily believe because that guy was not nearly as good at hiding his shitty beliefs as he thought he was, you've certainly become a better poster, even if we may disagree on certain things.
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I should clarify and say I'm specifically talking about the WSOP main event, which plays very differently than most tourneys early on. No one is really trying to get stacks in until the bubble bursts, so yeah you absolutely jam that and your opponent is almost always folding unless they also have aces, or kings. Even queens is probably folding there.
You're happier than a pig in shit to scoop that many blinds without having to see any more cards.
You wouldn't really think that way about most other tourneys.
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46 minutes ago, Js1 said:
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It takes so little time and effort to check this kind of info, I wish people weren't so lazy.
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Just now, Iceman said:
You cannot even discuss basketball- not because of my basketball opinions, but politics.
What? Lol. I know you have me on ignore but this is not even close to true.
You got really upset with me because I wouldn't back you up on something dumb you said (completely unrelated to politics) on the basketball board just because we're both Tech fans. That isn't my fault or my problem. I "dislike" (stretch to even say that because I don't think you're a bad person at all) you because you frequently say dumb things and then refuse to back up what you say with anything resembling logic or reason when challenged. I don't even think your political opinions are that bad, you just operate on pure vibes and feels and seem to have no interest in learning anything. I think that is what most people find frustrating about you, aside from the cringy slap fights you constantly get in over school rivalry shit.
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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:
Yeah I don't think you can justify it as some kind of naive mistake.
My question would be how is it a mistake at all if that's literally what he is?
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Two opinions stated as opinions but ok.
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16 minutes ago, Iceman said:
Not likely to ever find out, but it would likely spill over into other discussions. It already does on a limited fashion.
Some folks cannot function without their "pound of flesh" or "objective facts that always go in one direction."
Lol. We know you hate objective reality and think your opinions are facts. You don't need to remind us. You're literally the poster child for this.
Israel vs everyone war thread
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No one, at all, is denying the atrocities committed in Sudan, you moron.
You know damn well that those two things are not at all the same thing. We're talking about humanitarian aid being stolen/misused by bad actors within Sudan vs. the direct funding/support of Israeli military operations with our full blessing.
You still haven't answered my question.