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Woland

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  1. My in-laws are so convinced that he did so much to help independent farmers.  And I really don't have any specific information to show them evidence to the contrary.  And they don't really have any proof the other way other than what FoxNews and their neighbors tell them.  There's gotta be some truth in the middle there somewhere but I wouldn't know where to look.  My subscriptions to National Review, the Atlantic, and Bloomberg cover everything across the spectrum...EXCEPT farming/ranching.  

    COOL is a weak point. Exploit it.
  2. Pollsters are asking the wrong questions. They should be asking about worldwide immigration and the loss of white-Christian rule in the United States. Do you believe in QAnon would also be a good guestion to determine Trump voters.

    • Fuck Around and Find Out 1
  3. 1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

    So is far southern Collin Co., also with a diverse ethnic makeup.

    White flight is now out to Fannin County. True story...one acquaintance lives in Fannin County with her elderly mother. Her mother received three ballots in the mail and the acquaintance posted her disgust on Facebook. Many jumped in with the liberal plot to commit election fraud. It was fun pointing out that the entire county government in Fannin County is Republican. 

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  4. They'll just revert a lot quicker to "just asking questions" to end the conversation. It's been a fairly consistent formula.
    Step 1: plan on bringing up a topic out of the blue to someone that they clearly have been reading about the past day. They have all these talking points to bum rush someone with and that someone doesn't have actual facts on hand because they didn't know that friend/family member/coworker was going to be doing this today.
    Step 2: simple logic would usually be enough of a rebuttal, but whatever they read or listened to already addressed the easy logical counterarguments and prepared them with a rebuttal to memorize.
    Step 3: their victim is now irritated enough to go to a credible source to try to shut the conversation down so everyone can move on with their day. However, that source is "fake news" and not a credible source to them, even though it could even be a .gov website or the NIH or CDC, etc.
    Step 4: their victim now pulls 5 to 10 more sources saying the same thing and asks the aggressor for their sources. Surprise, it's only one source and it's some far right or worse propaganda machine, it's their only source, and when you ask them for more...
    Step 5: "I'm just asking questions." That's their parachute for when the jump out of a conversation. They are all out of the arguments and rebuttals that were prepared for them by their source. They did none of the leg work themselves, their education doesn't go much farther beyond that, and once that supply is exhausted they have to end the conversation as soon as possible to preserve what little false sense of superiority they feel they have left. Someone acting in good faith would actually visit some of the opposing sources to see if maybe they were in the wrong there, but instead they run back to the propaganda playbook to see where they went wrong and move on to the next opponent.
    I do this dance about once a month with my mom and have recognized this pattern with friends who are also dealing with loved ones and friends who are deep in it. I don't think it will go away, but the source material will be less. I think we are still in for a tumultuous year 1 of Biden's presidency. What happened over the last 4 years isn't going away on 01/20/2021. It's going to have to burn itself out and there is going to be some lashing out, unfortunately. I think it will go the opposite of NO POLITICS for at least a year. Think of the screaming woman at the inauguration that was memed. We're going to get a lot of that in 2021 from the other side.

    Just skip straight to step 4 when the conversation starts. That usually ends things.
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