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Posts posted by David Dennison
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1 minute ago, Mojo Hand said:
So?
Agreed.
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31 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:
The only thing they really did wrong wasn't even done by them; it was done by AOC's chief of staff, who went too far in a tweet and then deleted it. After getting their support for Speaker, Pelosi has been publicly talking shit about them and privately freezing them out for months. And they've pretty much stayed quiet about her until she had the gall to call them out for not being discreet. Pelosi has been way out of line, and I'm not the only one who has lost a ton of respect for her as a result.
But you are in the minority.
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2 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:
Yep, gotta grease all the wheels and make sure everyone is happy instead of doing what got you elected in the first place which is fight for what you believe in. Fuck off
You do if you want to accomplish anything.
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Who didn't see this coming?
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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
Dennison loves being controlled opposition and looking at everything through the GOP lens. As if Donald Trump isn’t some catastrophic liability for them anyway. Dems don’t need to walk on eggshells right now, they need to discover their new identity and evolve into an indestructible party powered by and overwhelming grassroots movement of people. Republicans are going to do the same tired shit as always...lie their ass off.
No, I don't. I look at it for what it is. It's politics. The Hill works a certain way and you don't get anything done when your caucus is fractured.
I want it to be as far left as those four women. But they are going about it in exactly the wrong way. They'll learn.
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1 minute ago, GSU&UT said:
Yep, gotta lay back and just take it on the chin and never fight for change.
Or try to bring others you work with to your side instead of alienating them. Nancy Pelosi admonished them because other members were getting tired of the attacks.
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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
This mini feud isn’t really that consequential in the grand scheme of things yet. There’s so much time on the clock. Pelosi isn’t doing much anyway except passing DOA legislation.
AOC needs to keep it up IMO. There’s plenty of time for the Dems to recover once the 2020 nominee is declared. The democrats will be fighting for the next 11 months anyway on the campaign trail so Pelosi and AOC might as well get the bad blood out during this period.
This is what democracy looks like. It’s messy and it makes people uncomfortable. At the end of the day I think a little infighting will make the democrats stronger for 2020 as long as the rally together by this time next year.
All this shit will be forgotten by then.
Infighting helps Republicans.
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2 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:
That is your opinion and needs to be taken to the Supreme Court as illegal immigrants and asylum seekers didn’t exists at the time. Agree to disagree.
IRS Admits It Encourages Illegals To Steal Social Security Numbers For Taxes
This time, he was talking about illegal immigrants, and about the IRS turning a blind eye. Or maybe worse. The IRS actually wantsillegal immigrants to illegally use Social Security numbers, he suggested. IRS Commissioner John Koskinen made the surprising statement in response to a question from Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind., at a Senate Finance Committee meeting. The question was a touchy one. Gee, is the IRS collaborating with taxpayers who file tax returns using fraudulent information? It wasn’t put exactly that way. According to Senator Coats:
What we learned is that … the IRS continues to process tax returns with false W-2 information and issue refunds as if they were routine tax returns, and say that’s not really our job. We also learned the IRS ignores notifications from the Social Security Administration that a name does not match a Social Security number, and you use your own system to determine whether a number is valid.”
Paying taxes for Social Security and Medicare benefits you'll never see to own the conservatives?
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1 minute ago, DixonHur said:
Exactly why not bringing it to the floor for a vote would have been the right move.
Not sure why you have such a hard-on for her. Your mental gymnastics are up there with the Trumpkins.
I don't have a hard on for her. I supported the bill that would have failed.
Having said that, Nancy Pelosi knows exactly what she's doing. She was handed a bill that passed with overwhelming Democratic support in the Senate. She had 18 moderates tell her that they would kill the bill if they made changes. Knowing that, not passing a bill would have been much worse politically than passing what they did. You know that by counting the number of Democratic "yeas." She had no choice but to bring that bill to the floor and get it passed. Sending her members home having done nothing was not an option.
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Or be removed by the Democratic caucus.
That's an option if you can muster the support.
Good luck to AOC and the three others.
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1 minute ago, suddenly shaggy said:
^ That's a feature, not a bug.
Absolutely. I just wonder if everyone who supports the question understands that.
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4 minutes ago, NowThis said:
The citizenship question should be on there IMO. Others have different opinions, the courts rule in one direction, fine.
Even if it results in an undercount of people in this country?
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Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:
Dennison, you’re just too stupid to engage with anymore. Sorry bro.
Don't be butthurt just because you don't understand what's going on.
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14 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:
So will the IRS be reporting all of the duplicate SS# filers? It will be funny to see reps argue against this while demanding Trumps tax returns.
Smart move. Public schools should also provide a good snap shot of how many illegal children are in the system and if they list one or two contacts.
This thread should rejoice. Trump lost and the question won’t be asked. You never had an issue with transparency correct? So should be all for this move by Trump, unless we were being disingenuous?
Do you think illegals file for Social Security benefits?
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Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:
AOC wasn’t really playing the race card on Pelosi. She wasn’t calling Pelosi racist. She was being factually accurate that those four are being singled out because they are people of color. Pelosi was reacting to the Fox News obsession with vilifying those four because they are people of color and standing up for themselves.
Pelosi should know better than anyone that the minorities need to be defended now than ever and she’s happy to just throw them under the bus to placate the blue dog democrats.
They aren't being singled out because they are people of color.
They are being singled out because they voted against a bill after leadership conceded to their demands.
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Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:
They should fear her, not the other way around.
They do. But when they have a voting bloc, they have power. It's larger than the left's.
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2 hours ago, retread said:
I mean, very few of the normal rules apply today. Like Asit said earlier, you can't shame the Rs (at least not easily). It's true that it will be difficult. Like DD said, several Ds in the House derailed everything by insisting on the milquetoast bill that funded concentration camps.
You can either give up or fight. In 2019, fighting means 16 hour days, hiring more staffers if necessary, flooding social media/talk shows/latenight shows/etc with information, traveling to the border and documenting the atrocities, etc. It also means jumping feet first into impeachment and getting every bit of info out there.
If you're not willing to do all that and more, then the Rs have probably won, and America has lost.
As it stands right now, Nancy Pelosi has more to fear from the middle of her caucus than the left. They control more votes.
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Just now, Fozzz said:
State capitalism!
China!
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Just now, American Swindle said:
If you look, you can find them.
Name some.
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Just now, Fozzz said:
Only in Norway, the most capitalist nation in the world.
Indeed.
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Have we figured out where free markets exist yet?
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1 minute ago, retread said:
It's not like there won't be consequences to being an impeached president running for re-election. Yes, the 40% will scream Deep State Coup as they listen to Rush.
The 40% Ds are already aware of his malfeasance. The middle 20% will have to decide if they want to re-elect someone who did all the things outlined in the impeachment hearings.
What are the consequences of an impeached president winning re-election?
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4 minutes ago, American Swindle said:
The Government Housing Policy led to the crisis.
https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/2010/5/cj30n2-12.pdf
Basically, the fundamental cause of the crisis was you had banks that extended mortgages that shouldn't have been extended, the government's policies cited above pressed them to.
Nice try though bud.
The government made me do it excuse.
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Just now, Mojo Hand said:
Looks like you're right and he's surrendering:
Wow.
I did not expect that.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
in Cloak Room
Posted · Edited by David Dennison
I hope you're right.
I don't think you are, though. I think the Democratic Party and most of its voters are way more moderate than we would like.
For now.
Also, you would hate the bills that could pass the Senate. So would I.