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Posts posted by David Dennison
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It's on.
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Just now, retread said:
They don't have the will, stomach, or desire (or all of the above) to fight.
The legislation you wanted them to fight for was DOA. It wasn't going to pass. Democrats killed it.
Then what?
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Just now, hayden_horn said:
thanks for making my point.
It's my point, too.
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Just now, hayden_horn said:
whose fault is that?
the democrats' fault.
holiday weekend coming up? don't pass a bullshit bill. scrap your plans, go to the border and MAKE A FUCKING FUSS.
or, i guess, "reluctantly" surrender and go on holiday.
A large majority of the caucus supported that bullshit bill.
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Just now, Mo Horn said:
Jake got a 2 game suspension
Not bad considering people were calling for his head. No big deal.
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Not that it matters because at this point we're just yelling past each other, but here are all of the bills passed by the House in this Congress:
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5 minutes ago, retread said:
House Ds had just visited the concentration camps. You have the momentum. You force the Rs to come to the table. You go get lots of images and videos from the camps. You blast them on social media. You go on offense. Instead?
Holiday weekend coming up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It was Democrats who forced her hand.
Democrats.
That's why this sucks.
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2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
I love how 2016 is white washed to blame Hillary and the Dems. As if Obama didn't lose 1000 state house seats, left the party in ruins, and got turbofucked by Putin and McConnell on his way out. As if Trump didn't criminally cheat to win either. Nope, none of that happened. All on Hillary and little Debbie!
Hillary Clinton ran a terrible campaign. Was it all her fault? No. But she didn't do herself any favors by taking the Blue Wall for granted.
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Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:
Dennison is my kind of troll. Doesn't put much effort in but keeps getting bites.
It's easy when people think emotionally about an issue.
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39 minutes ago, American Swindle said:
privatize everything
Oh yeah, that'll work.
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Just now, retread said:
The July 4th holiday was coming up and the Ds decided to punt. That's the bottom line.
It was that or not pass anything. It passed 84-9 in the Senate. It's politically untenable to not do anything.
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3 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:
a spine. the republicans knew the democrats would cave, because that's what democrats do. they were afraid of taking the blame for not passing that bill. fuck that. pin that blame on the republicans, and, more specifically, mitch mcconnell. side with AOC and go with them to the goddamn concentration camps on july 4 during the recess. point out how mitch mcconnell is okay with this. don't cave.
Side with the extreme minority.
That's a winning political strategy.
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Just now, Captainant said:
They got a tax cut and concentration camps. Fuck, they even got democratic votes and have placed impeachment out of reach apparently. Sounds pretty goddamn successful to me compared against nancys showing.
They didn't get the tax cut when Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House.
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Just now, Captainant said:
Republicans actually worked towards their policy goals.
Weird.
But they don't get them.
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Just now, Dropout said:
They may win a title. They never win on actual policy and law. They give in every single time. There is no point in winning if what you’re fighting for is meaningless. Nice title tho Speaker Pelosi. I hope you feel proud.
Republicans have the exact same gripe.
Weird.
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Just now, Dropout said:
It is great. They’ll lose battles but they’ll win the war.
You won't know this until November 2020.
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Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:
Not the best argument since Pelosi is letting the Republicans win.
Are they?
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Just now, Dropout said:
So wrong and why they never win.
But they do. It's why Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House.
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Just now, Dropout said:
Pelosi is bought off like the other corporate democrats. She can’t fight for what’s right even if she wanted to. You’re the puppet /Trump.
Pelosi prefers to fight the left of her own party rather than Trump because that is what she was paid to do. Tlaib AOC Omar Ayanna these women of color are free to do what they feel is right. It shows every time you hear one of them speak.
Please excuse these women of color if they don’t vote for funding concentration camps. They know what it’s like fighting discrimination and dehumanizing behavior.
This is great. They should keep doing this.
It means they'll lose battles, though. That's the hard part about politics.
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1 minute ago, Captainant said:
Funding. Concentration. Camps.
That bill they passed is funding the raids this weekend.
Great job.
What would you have preferred?
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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:
And if Pelosi and the Dem leadership had any idea how to effectively present a real opposition’s message, they could make every GOP vote not to convict a huge GOP liability.
Republicans look at every issue and see political opportunity. Democrats look at every issue and only see how it can bite them. This is why Republicans keep winning.
Really? Who is the Speaker of the House?
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Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:
No, the Senate votes to remove.
The house votes to impeach.
Making Trump run as an impeached president is what Pelosi is giving up here.
Something that has never been done in the history of this country.
The facts and evidence clearly warrant impeachment and removal. If the Senate wants to vote to not convict, hang that around their neck.
Impeachment also slows the Trump administration down for doing things like starting wars and killing kids.
How do you know?
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7 minutes ago, Captainant said:
What job is she accomplishing right now? Please, drop some knowledge on me. What concrete outcomes has she positively effected this far as speaker?
Please show your work and provide evidence. Because I'm happy to re-enumerate and document what I feel are her failures and capitulations to genuine evil.
She's kept it from being worse. That's all she can do.
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6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
70%+ of democrats support impeachment.
45% of voters support impeachment.
These are well beyond Nixon/Watergate numbers pre impeachment and that was in a media environment without Twitter and Fox News.
Pelosi has been trying her hardest to keep those impeachment numbers down because she does not want to fight a battle she might not be able to control. She’s as spineless Paul Ryan except worse because she’s a democrat.
She doesn't have the votes.
She doesn't want to whip them.
Yet.
Nancy Pelosi is a badass MF and I want her to be Speaker
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For what? The fight was over. Democrats bolted. The only other option was no funding for suffering children.