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Posts posted by David Dennison
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BRING THE FUCKING HAMMER DOWN, PETE BUTTIGIEG!!!!!!
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Just now, Dbeasy said:
It is in England.
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It is what in England?
I'm just saying MFA can't be a buy in. Everyone has to pay into it. Like Medicare. If you want supplemental insurance, fine (sorry Bernie). If you want a private administrator like Medicare Advantage, fine (sorry Bernie). But everyone has to pay in. No opt outs.
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Just now, Dbeasy said:
Later Iâd like to hear why
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For the same reason Medicare isn't a choice. It's unsustainable if it doesn't apply to everyone.
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Just now, Rougarou said:
You serious? Pete slayed it.
Biden's answer is a clumsy old man answer though lol.
Everyone starting with "This is very personal to me [ anecdote that pulls on heart strings] so vote for me."
You can't let Medicare for All be a choice. It has to be like it is for people 65 and older. They don't have a choice.Â
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1 minute ago, Helobious said:
RBG was so fucking stupid to not retire during the Obama years. Trump has the 2020 election locked up, and she's not gonna make it to 2024. It will be at least a 6-3 conservative court for decades.Â
Trump is going to lose. He's 2020's Hillary Clinton times ten. People cannot wait to vote against him.
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Bad answer, Mayor Pete. Very bad answer.
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Just now, bad_teammate said:
Yep
Gen X candidates are fucking embarrassing in 2020
Oh well. Whatever. Nevermind.
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Just now, swraith said:
Cocaine Mitch is better at this than Pelosi.
That must be why the ACA is still the law of the land.
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Humblebragging about six figure student loan debt.
Wow.
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6 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:
If I am the one paying the premiums for MY policy and I am the one paying the deductible for MY policy and the treatments and procedures are for MY health then why shouldn't it be about me? You don't buy home owner's insurance because of how it covers someone else's home. You don't buy car insurance because of how it covers someone else's car. You buy those things because of the coverage the company gives your home and your car. Why shouldn't people be allowed to choose their health insurance based on how that insurance fits their needs instead of how it fits someone else's needs? The whole idea is to find insurance you like. Under your proposal someone in the government is forcing you to buy the insurance they think will fit your needs. The final decision in a purchase should lie with the consumer not the retailer. How many people would go into HEB if HEB told them that HEB will decide what they can purchase instead of them?
Forgetting for the moment that when you buy insurance your premiums are pooled and pay for everyone else's claims, should we allow the market to determine the health insurance needs of people 65 and older? You think that would be a good thing?
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4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
Yep, but we either fight for the future or we just give up.
It's why I vote against a Republican every single time.
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3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
And again, it's not even a strong President who will bring the pressure, it's the people. Without millions of active citizens bringing constant heat, it doesn't matter how strong or weak the president is.
But, IF we get millions of motivated people pushing left VERY HARD, we can make all of this happen.
That's a big if considering the favorite presidential candidate among Democratic voters is currently Joe Biden.
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2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
Good luck saying with pathetic cucks like Pelosi and Schumer saying that shit to President Warren or President Sanders.
America needs an angry grandma or an angry grandpa to tell us to get out of bed, brush our teeth, and go to work.
They absolutely will. They'll welcome input, but they will make clear in no uncertain terms that a member of the Executive Branch has no role on the Hill other than breaking a tie in the Senate.
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Just now, Incredulity said:
Combination of shock value and laziness.

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Just now, bad_teammate said:
It's why we need Bernie or Liz.
Either one of those will bring the other along (either as VP or as Congressional enforcer) and we NEED progressive, left leadership to join Jayapal and Omar and AOC and Tlaib in their early days of power.
And leadership will promptly tell that person to stay on their turf.Â
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1 minute ago, Bama Chick said:
Oh my god.
I thought Americans were dumb but my goodness, this is beyond anything I imagined.
Weâre so completely and utterly fucked.
ÂI'd love to know the results when you just ask college graduates.
I bet it's even more depressing.
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Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
They're fucking concentration camps. If they're not, please give me a proper, accepted name for what they are. Because if they're not concentration camps, then we as Americans, have created a newer, equally cruel series of facilities to house marginalized people. Freedom Camps? Will that make you feel better about innocent children dying?
I'm actually shocked some dumbass right winger hasn't suggested this yet.
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Just now, bad_teammate said:
Good point.
We need make sure that we have a majority in the House so we can vote to fund concentration camps where kids are shoved into ice lockers for only 90 days instead of 120.
The majority of the Democratic caucus agrees.
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1 minute ago, Rougarou said:
It's clearly an attempt to emotionally and psychologically manipulate by using the term "concentration camp" knowing that 99.999% of people associate it with the aforementioned and cannot draw an intellectual distinction and associate the word with it's technical definition (and she's not wrong if we were talking about academic definitions).Â
Which is exactly why it's brilliant politics.
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2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
You put forward the right bill and make them vote. Then you name their names online and in mailers. Not only do you keep the DCCC from keeping money and resources away from challengers, you actively fund challengers to those who vote against it.
This is why we need a mass political movement. These representatives are all atomized around their hyperspecific interests (not even local interests, just whatever special interests correlate to that individual).
Carrot and stick. Pelosi has no stick.
If you're a leader with millions of Americans ready to march, you have a stick. (Look at how and why Republicans have fallen in line for Trump. They are TERRIFIED of the base.)
That's a great way to hand the majority over to the Republicans.
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5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:
They definitely use the rubes that really are racist but thatâs to get their votes. Â The ultimate goal is money not white supremacy. Â Look how Trump treats rich browns vs poors. Â Literally lets the rich get away w murder. Â
As it pertains to the Republican Party you are right, absolutely. They only care about moving money upward. As it pertains to their voters, it's about race and white people holding on to fading political power in the face of changing demographics.Â
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3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:
Talk about fucking gaslighting. Â
Jesus...AOC is directly upthread defending the comparison to Jake Tapper.
No, that's not what she's doing. She's calling them what they are. They are concentration camps.
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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:
So maybe itâs time to put new people in power. Perhaps we should change how things operate.
Those new people are the ones who were going to torpedo the House bill.Â
I think they should get primaried. Then they might lose to a Republican because they are in a swing district.
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Just now, hobbes2702 said:
If she is unable to convince her own team that kids dying is a problem and that we shouldnât support the funding of those killing them then she isnât capable of being speaker at this time.
Most of her caucus voted for the bill that passed.

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