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Posts posted by wildcat09
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38 minutes ago, Tailgate said:
Incredibly strong team of great people. Not sure anyone has the exact same political and/or religious beliefs and we all can have a different opinion. Go figure.
Do y'all work on projects very greatly and strongly?
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7 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:
So you are calling Thomas Sowell stupid? You couldn't win a debate against one of Sowell's boogers.
No, he's not stupid, he's disingenuous.
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5 minutes ago, berlinerbaer said:
Someone who was polling around 2% of the likely Dem primary vote isn't going to play spoiler as an independent, even if Biden is the nominee. She'd be another Jill Stein, at best. Ralph Nader farts in her general direction.
Her only political future is as a Republican in some weird district with a preternatural enrichment of young, disaffected, white males. That said, I expect her to go into media and have a diminutive, but dedicated following of aforementioned incels. She has the looks, but totally lacks the charisma to make it very far.
Jill Stein got over 50,000 votes in Michigan, where Trump won by roughly 10,000, and she got over 31,000 in Wisconsin, which Trump won by about 22,000.
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If Thunderdome-Congress Edition became a thing, I'd seriously reconsider my firm opposition to ever running for office.
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18 minutes ago, Goredho said:
Let me start by saying I could be wrong and I hope like hell I am, but...
As the overmatched opponent, It is better to lie in wait ready to seize an opportunity when it is presented than it is to overestimate an opportunity, act and fail. If the Dems fail, they will have shown themselves to be completely powerless to stop the conservative movement. They will be the political equivalent of Garrett Gilbert after 54774579 interceptions at K-State. No one, least of all their supporters, will have faith in their ability to serve as any sort of effective opposition to Trump, McConnell, etc...
That is a much worse position to be in. All you have are empty threats that everyone knows is utterly meaningless bullshit. Before the showdown demonstrating exactly how powerless you are, you have opportunity. After, you have none. You have lost the illusion of power that coupled with moral or intellectual correctness gives you the ability to serve as a counter against the more powerful majority. It will have to get a lot worse over a lot longer time for the tide to turn.
Is that risk worth the completely futile attempt to remove the President less than 12 months before the voters could send him packing?
We’ll fucking see.
Literally doing nothing for four years and seeing Trump get reelected would do the same.
The Democrats have approached every single political fight for the past thirty years with the strategy to immediately concede if they can't guarantee victory in hopes that playing the honorable loser will win them votes. But that approach never wins votes, it loses votes. Voters don't like a party of pussies that only ever decide to act when some polls indicate that something is sufficiently popular. They have to actually act like they believe what they say. They can't spend four years talking about Trump's lawlessness without exercising the limited power they have to attempt to stop it, watch Trump get re-elected, and expect for anyone to still believe they have any power.
Impeachment was never about removal, given the makeup of the Senate. Impeachment was about using the process as a megaphone to explain to undecided voters and nonvoters the breadth of Trump's crimes and the danger he poses to the republic, as well as the GOP's complicity. I think they've fucked up the execution by focusing too narrowly on Ukraine, but at least they finally took the field.
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4 minutes ago, Spring Branch Horn said:
So if that is the case - why not include them in the impeachment?
Dumb political calculations.
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1 minute ago, BradInATX said:
Fair enough. Quantity, and probably quality will be better with the regular employees.
And the question about variety is fair. But all Vox (a very specific use case, BTW) would have to do is either:
1) Have the freelancers start an LLC and continue business as usual, except checks going to the LLC and not the employee. Again, a 30 minute process.
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2) Hire a firm that has a wide pool of subject matter expertise (for example a firm that has content creators for all 32 NFL teams). In this case, the company (Vox) gets the same result, without the "employees" getting exploited (because the content creation firm would be paying them a real wage).
But let's be real. This law was not meant for a company like Vox. There are plenty of workarounds for them. The article is nothing but click bait. They'll be fine. The article is meant to stop Facebook, Google, etc. from employing THOUSANDS of people who are essentially doing full time work whilst being exploited as contractors. And yeah, the burden that Facebook would take on to change Payroll and Accounting infrastructures to support 5,000 LLCs instead of 5,000 "contractors" is burdensome. Which is the point. Fuck you, Facebook. Stop using loopholes to get around employment law. You aren't struggling. Pay your employees and give them benefits.
I suppose as an alternative Facebook workers might accept Peter Thiel's head on a plate and his wealth redistributed to the "contractors."
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6 minutes ago, workswithseed said:
I never changed subject, why. Also people moving in still have to pay those taxes. If only there was a way to do extra side jobs to help pay for it. Now that just got a little harder.
The online survey, conducted last month by Edelman Intelligence, found that 53 percent of Californians surveyed are considering fleeing, representing a jump over the 49 percent polled a year ago. The desire to exit the nation’s most populous state was highest among millennials, the survey noted.
The reason a lot of millennials are considering leaving California is they can't afford housing in California. The reasons for the housing crisis are numerous and complex, but perhaps the largest factor is Proposition 13, which was passed by a bunch of anti-tax idiots who refused to think through the logical consequences that would result.
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17 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:
so, i'm having a hard time with this thread. your motivations seem clear enough, i suppose, but then you make a post like this.
with the litany of pro-russian behavior of this president, and the undeniable contact his campaign has had with russia and now ukraine, and you want to blame the media for pointing it out/talking about it? i'm stumped here. this seems like a straight troll job, i gotta be honest with you.
That's because it is.
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Shorter Anastasis: “OJ didn’t do it.”
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Donald Trump Jr. admitted to coordinating with Russia in fucking 2017 and Anastasis is still bullshitting. Truly amazing.
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I want every Democratic consultant and strategist who opposed impeachment because they thought Trump secretly wanted it found and thrown into a wood chipper.
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2 minutes ago, workswithseed said:
I don't understand this, do you think freelancers are just doing work for VOX? Your paragraph shows that 180 people lost an income, but it gives them benefits now so its all good since it'll hopefully those 180 in the long run.
It's forcing companies to employ fewer people, which you seem to think is okay.
It is.
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Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:
How did the autocrats get where they are now? There was an entire corporate establishment that open the door for them. It’s more corruption and irresponsibility than some jargony ideology like “neoliberalism.” Perhaps neoliberalism/neoconservativism is symptom of a corrupt political culture that has lost its way too.
If these issue are not addressed, we are going to get more and more crazy leaders and more citizen rights are going to be forfeited.
Yeah, Trump is an enormous problem but removing him isn’t going to solve the bigger picture. Trump is a distraction from the underlying issues that have allowed a Trump to even exist.
German communists helped the Nazis seize power, rather than allying with the center-left to fight them, because they thought anything that hurt the system they opposed would ultimately be good. We know how that ended. We can fix the fucking system when the Nazis have been annihilated.
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Just now, jimmyjazz said:
Seemingly lost in this ridiculous hue and cry over the unfair House Democrats is a little nugget in Donald Trump's favorite Constitutional article (Article 2):
Presumably this means a subsequent POTUS cannot pardon Trump for those crimes laid out in the impeachment. If so, it also points out good reason to expand those articles as time marches along.
I don't think it's ever been litigated, but the seemingly-obvious intent of that language is to prevent him from using his pardon to prevent the impeachment of officials. I don't think there's a good argument that it prevents him from pardoning underlying crimes for which an official may be impeached for.
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6 minutes ago, sasquatch69 said:
For a lot of folks, there's nothing wrong with that. The GOP continuing to move far right doesn't demand an equal and opposite reaction on the left.
Maybe not, but "I trust you to figure out how to ration your own insulin" sure as fuck does.
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6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:More along this vein.
https://www.cato.org/blog/diagnosing-fbi-failures-inspector-generals-fisa-report
Diagnosing the FBI Failures in the Inspector General’s FISA Report
Enormous improvement on a WSJ op-ed. Post more like this and less "hearsay in a warrant application!" hysteria and your concerns would come across as genuine rather than a constant attempt to deflect from the fact that Trump is an obvious Russian asset and that his campaign was barely disguising its attempts to coordinate with Russia. None of us are OK with a FISA process that gives the FBI carte blanche to spy on Americans. It's just that we're much more concerned at the moment with the fact that the President is a Russian agent and a fascist who doesn't give even 1/10th of 1% of a fuck about respecting any rules or restraints on his power than the fact that the FBI did some shit that while shady is wholly ordinary for them while investigating his campaign.
Our point in this argument is pretty straightforward: who gives a fuck about FISA rules when the President is 90% done with his mission to replace everyone who cares about rules with toadies who will follow any order and actually took their jobs with the intention of abusing power to harm their political opponents? If you're hyperfocused on the former while you completely ignore the latter, well we're going to draw some reasonable conclusions from that fact. This is the national politics version of the planet being on fire while assholes only worry about what any impact to mitigate that will have on their beef supply.
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Hearsay in a warrant application?! How outrageous!
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17 hours ago, Anastasis said:
I think that the story arc of the discussion post Mueller and now post OIG report is pretty enlightening. Many of the same posters who were so worked up, and rightfully so, about the rhetorical deflection devices used by actual trumpkins to avoid making common sense conclusions regarding Vol II of the Mueller report, are now using the exact same devices to avoid admitting to the common sense conclusions regarding the findings of the OIG report.
"Mueller didn't draw a conclusion on obstruction of justice, therefor it did not occur!!!"/"OIG did not speculate on the impact of falsification, errors, omissions and misstatements by the FBI on the sufficiency of probable cause, therefor he determined that the FBI established probable cause to get a warrant against Carter Page without obfuscation or exaggerationt!!!".
Both despite a long and detailed reporting of the actual malfeasance involved, more than sufficient to let any intellectually honest reader draw their own conclusions.
This is your best bothsides yet. Truly a great work of art, dare I say a masterpiece.
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53 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:
I'm not sure. I can't recall exactly who I voted for in each and that I even did vote in each one. Part of getting old. I wasn't the biggest fan of Gore but uncertain if I voted for him.
So you're not a Democrat. So why should the Democrats waste significant effort tailoring their message and their candidates for your approval?
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55 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:
you got me, that was exactly what I said. eyeroll.
I've pretty much voted for Dem in the Presidential race since '92. Nominate Bernie or Warren and I'm sitting out 2020. I'm a centrist Democrat and I would never vote for them. I don't prefer Trump to them but I won't vote for them.
And if it takes Trump winning in 2020 to shut down the far left progressive wing of the Dem party, that might just have to be a heavy price to pay.
Pretty much, huh? When didn't you?
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15 minutes ago, 406W30th said:
Also. Brexit.
Yeah. I don't know shit about UK politics but, given Scotland's clear preference for remaining in the EU and the new nationalist majority in Northern Ireland, it seems like the breakup of the UK is a legitimate possibility. Russia would love to see that.
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17 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:
These people honestly believe this shit and want to kill us.
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1 hour ago, BradInATX said:
She does need to chill out tho. She's right and Trump sucks but she's going to grow up really maladjusted I'm afraid.
What the fuck?
impeachment inquiry hearings thread
in Cloak Room
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That's what people are saying. Many people, the best people. Really straight-out-of-central-casting people. Also Tailgate is better looking than Tom Cruise. Equal faces but a better body.