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C-Man

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  1. 1 minute ago, Michael Knight said:

    As usual capitalism ruined everything, as soon as someone figured out the quickest most efficient way to engagement was rage bate they quickly monetized hate. 

    Yep. It's ruined the last bastion of free press in this country. When the NYT and WaPo no longer serves as the ultimate government watchdogs, and instead chase online traffic by posting rage-bait articles/opinion pieces, the country is vulnerable to a autocratic takeover like we're seeing right now.

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  2. 18 minutes ago, Party_Taco said:


    Broadly agree but sternly disagree where it comes to Biden. He had a chance to take this on directly and instead put Merrick fucking Garland in charge and avoided going after those responsible for Jan 6.

    Just completely feckless to go after the crowd instead of the organizers. Pure political cowardice born of a different age and failing to meet the needs of the moment.

    Biden, wrongfully it turns out, thought the Trump scourge was over the minute he was sworn in as POTUS in 2021. Hell, I thought so too. And his four years -- once we got past COVID -- were pretty even keel, a much-needed respite after the rough sledding from 2017-2020. He -- and the Democrats mis-calculated as they have every step of Donald Trump's political career. He's a fucking cockroach. He'd survive a nuclear holocaust. Mitch McConnell could've done this country a huge favor by convicting him for J6 but he pussed out too, or a desire for his team to hang on to power won over doing the right thing for once in his pathetic life. And then Merrick Merrick'ed and, oops, Trump is re-elected and we are in the hell that we're in.

     

    11 minutes ago, mdmost said:

    If that was even him, 4+ years ago is a lifetime. Maybe Jan 6 changed him. We don't know so again, spiking the football right now is more like dropping the ball at the 1 before crossing the endzone. 

    I'm just glad it wasn't either of these two:

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    8 minutes ago, 4th and 5 said:

     

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    Love it. But Tyler Robinson is a relatively common name.

  3. 1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

    That party is way, way too online. The Elder Millennials, Gen Xers, and Boomers who embraced MAGA are digital Peter Pans who all desperately want to anonymously shitpost like a 9th grader in a discord server and can't accept that they're grown ups with responsibilities and who are expected to behave like grown ups that understand their actions have real world consequences. From "Based Mike Lee" to Don Jr, these people are extremely broken but because of dark money there is no way any of them can be held accountable in any meaningful way. They're simply shielded from the consequences of their immaturity, but permitted to inflict them on everyone else.

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  4. 100% this.   I didn't add this into me diatribe earlier but the extent of kow-towing the American media has done the last 10 years is horrifying.  
    The abdication of telling the truth and being honest is a travesty.

    I think legacy media (mostly print) came to a fork in the road. How do we make money in the changing media marketplace? Somewhere around that point, it lost the plot.
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  5. 10 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

    I knew it was a fucking Mexican

    I don't know what happened there. I started to post the name from that discussion and after reading a bit into it, the detective work seemed a little Kash-y. Guess I hit submit and then edited it out rather than editing my first draft before posting.

    At any rate, highly doubtful you'll ever hear that name again. And I'm an idiot for posting it.

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  6. 2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

     

     

    1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

    I don't think I agree with you here. The only reason I know the name Charlie Kirk is because of this messageboard. After his death like 3 friends talked about it. I was on a call with peers at work and someone asked outloud "Who is this Kirk guy that died? just got an alert" from a team of people who watch CNBC daily. I think if you are super active online it probably feels the way you bolded, but I'm not seeing it in real life.

    The markets have been shrugging off everything. Tariffs, for the most part. Bombing Qatar (Hamas) was a huge deal with huge implications-- barely registered on mainstream media fronts. All anyone cares about in the world I see everyday has been a) Oracle's out of the blue story b) "did you see the new iphone air? when are airbuds 3.0 coming?", and most importantly and the bullhorn in every room c) AI bubble/boom. And that seems to be all the market cares about as well right now.

    tl;dr Long way to say, I don't agree it feels like a climax. Kirk is not a Lincoln or Franz Ferdinand or anyone else of widespread fame/infamy. He seems to be known, loved or hated, by the chronicaly online and vocal minority.

    These are the shit-bags who don't pay attention to current events and just blindly pull the lever for whatever turrible Republican candidate is on the ballot. They don't bother educating themselves or paying attention to the building burning down around them. I'm guessing they're older, probably white male Boomers that have it pretty well locked down. Nice house, kids off doing their own things, several nice vacations per year, country club membership, etc. You know, "winning."

     

    30 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

    One thing that's really gnawing at me today is the response from notable liberals to Kirk's murder. It's not that it's bad for public officials and other notable liberals whose voices carry weight to speak out against political violence. But there was an immediate rush for them to get statements out yesterday like we've never seen before. I'm pretty sure Obama never even made a public statement about Melissa Hortman's assassination, but he had a statement out within like 30 minutes yesterday. Hortman was an elected representative and literally someone Obama had met and hosted at the White House.  But her assassination and the attempted assassination of another elected representative by a right winger with a hit list with like 70 more liberals on it (including Obama) didn't merit anything. That was just a fucking Tuesday, or whatever. And look at Ezra Klein's opinion today, just straight up lying to his audience that Kirk did politics "the right way." And I'm sure there's plenty of other similar statements/articles from liberal commentators pretending that Charlie Kirk was a great guy with whom they just had normal political disagreements.

    There's only two explanations I can think of for this, neither of them good. First, it could just be conscious or even subconscious pre-emptive surrender on their part. Maybe they just think the fight has already been lost and they've resigned themselves to fascism dominion over America and don't want to endanger themselves. But if that's the case, I find it absolutely ridiculous. Yeah things are bad and everyone here knows I've been saying this shit is going to get very bad for a long time. But like I said yesterday, I don't know that this really gives them any ammunition to ratchet their propaganda up further because their reaction to this is virtually identical to their reaction to a million trivial things. There's already a fire raging, and this doesn't help, but I don't know that it really pours any substantial amount of gas on the fire and I still think there is a chance the fire can be contained, if not quickly extinguished. Just look at how incompetent they've been at so much of their attempt to consolidate power. Look at how fucking old and worthless Trump looks. Look at Republicans begging Pritzker to let them invade Chicago a little bit just as a treat. They are not a vigorous, unstoppable movement, and for liberals with real platforms to treat them as if they are is fucking embarrassing.  

    The alternative, and I don't know if it's worse or better, is that they simply view Kirk as one of "them" in a way that a lowly state representative isn't, and that they just fundamentally think people of their social status matter more than a lowly state representative, much less us normal people.  That they just see it all as a game and think the players on the other side are as Good as they are, regardless of what they say or do.

    Or it could simply be plain old self-preservation. Rightly or not, the right wingers who want an eye for an eye for Kirk are going to see some of these folks as just like him but on the other team. They could become targets themselves.

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