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GW Hayduke

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  1. 8 hours ago, McCroskey said:

     you can easily see that they heavily lied about what they were doing for such a long period of time.  

     

     

     

    What exactly do you think they lied about? 

    7 hours ago, McCroskey said:

    Some of those statements and actions are now considered to be deceptive and/or intentionally misleading and that’s something worth exploring further.

    Like what?

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  2. 45 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    Lol, this whole thing is a massive Russian active measures campaign that worked out perfectly for them. And it worked because the admin, begrudgingly, did the right thing by bringing home an American detained under political pretenses. 
     

    - Doing the swap this way offered fodder to exacerbate divisions in the United States along racial/political fault lines, successfully as seen on this thread. It couldn’t be better, they successfully got a Democratic President to work a deal to free a black lesbian basketball player who kneeled for the national anthem and leave a white middle aged former Marine in jail. Fuck, you can’t WRITE a story better for the GQP. 
     

    - It’s a massive propaganda coup at home because the Russian government is perfectly aware, and celebrating, the fact that they successfully traded someone who did nothing wrong for an actual bad person who did bad things for them. It’s a power move that reinforces Putin’s tarnished image as a master badass. 

    Exactly. Plus this is one the reasons Twitter was worth $44 billion to Elon. Even if Elon hasn’t had enough time to fully weaponize Twitter, this situation appears to be a success for Russia, the GOP, and right wing propagandists 

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  3. 4 hours ago, Goredho said:

     

    Lol, when are you going to start voting from the rooftops, Brisket?  Your 1939 eve of Nazification talk is cheap, señor.  Oh, wait.  I forgot.  You just bloviate ad nauseam about our country’s dire straits while bloviating ad nauseam about our country’s dire straits.

    For all your apocalyptic predictions, stern prose and ALL CAPS toughness, you sure seem content to just observe and comment.  And comment.  And comment.  By your own words, your country is collapsing, the end is nigh, the brown shirts are knocking at your door.  THE TIME IS NOW.

    And yet here you are, posting again.  And again.  And again.  Your time at this time of reckoning isn’t completely wasted, however.  You are good for keeping tensions high amongst this audience.  You are the Tucker Carlson of the Cloak Room, talking of what should be done about conservatives and Republicans using the exact same horrific language far right hate groups use to describe what should be done about blacks, LGBTQ+ members, immigrants and other groups.

    Just spit it out.  America needs a final solution to its Republican problem.  That’s what all your posts are alluding to.

    You have stared off your ledge into the abyss, and boy has it stared back at you.

    Totally agree. The dehumanization of huge swaths of US citizens is a very sad and alarming thing to see by supposed educated people.  This division seems to be exactly what Putin wanted. 

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  4. 8 hours ago, Pancho said:

     

    He know’s he’s mentally ill because he’s admitted it. He has bipolar disorder. Everyone knows this. So no, this isn’t an intentional act. You suggesting such means you’re making excuses. 

    Describing and understanding the situation isn't making excuses.  Folks shouldn't conflate the two.  But you should probably note that mental illness and insanity are actual legal defenses used in our legal system sometimes and are much more of an "excuse" (he is just off his meds!) than noting aspects that match an intentional performance. I'm pointing toward accountability in terms of likelihood of actual deliberation on how to amplify the antiemetic message.  

    It is easy to accept "he is just off his meds" and then ignore what he is doing and how it fits with what else is going on in the world.

    Accepting intention and deliberation leads me to consider why he is doing this now. I imagine Kanye is mostly just a pawn but it I'm not convinced it is a coincidence that his episode is occurring at the same time as Trump's announcement to run again and Elon taking over twitter. It is very possible his messages and methods are resonating on the darker side of the right and with some in the black community.  Antisemitism was a huge part of the America First movement in the 40s, and when combined with Christian nationalism (the Christian Front) and propaganda (Father Coughlin, senators Lundeen, Nye, etc.).  I think antisemitism has potential to again be a powerful current within today's GOP base.  

    A further step into the rabbit hole could also point out a more national intention to try and split groups that have traditionally been aligned politically in the US - blacks and jews. This could allow the right to carve off a slice.  We know the right has been somewhat successful at carving off a piece of the hispanic vote to a certain extent, and I believe the potential exists that this may be part of an attempt to do the same with the black vote.

  5. 47 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    Yeah, you don’t really bounce back from “I really like Hitler, he did some good stuff” with “it was all ACTING.” 
     

    I don’t know what you mean. Him being an antisemite doesn’t mean he isn’t performing. Him performing for clicks and attention isn’t an excuse for promoting antisemitism.  You don’t put on a mask, hold a net, and go on Alex Jones if you aren’t performing.  Maybe he is just insane, but I doubt it.  I think his act is intentional.

  6. I’m leaning towards this being a performance. He is an entertainer. He knows how to manipulate an audience and put on a show. Similar to this.
     

     

  7. 1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

    Understand the perspective. And @Brisketexan 's follow up. But I also understand when the people leave evil wins. Without going into the other countries and their situation lets focus on Russia. How many men left? That is one hell of a protest movement. Meanwhile they are now sitting in other countries, few are going to get jobs, and that creates new issues for the host nation. Georgia needs to handle how many Russians? 

    In every country I have worked/lived, most in some sort of conflict, this is something seen. I will mention Venezuela. The refugees are creating issues in Colombia and Ecuador, who then ask us to kick more cash to them. And wait for the next exodus from Haiti. Its coming. 

    TL:DNR- Fuckers run and become another countries problem. 

    Rather than another country’s problem, immigrants are overwhelmingly positive members of society as workers, tax payers, and consumers.  More immigrants = higher population = higher GDP = greater economic standing in the world.  We should all be actively trying to drain the Russian population, while increasing our own and that our allies.  

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  8. 12 hours ago, Tuco said:

    A bit tangent to Bannon is Guo Wengu, the billionaire Chinese dissident/criminal/conman. Bannon was trying to set-up a media company with him and was on his yacht when arrested, the first time. I don’t have the electronic copy to link, but I will type in one passage.


    Peering into the camera, Guo announced the establishment of a shadow government, which he called the New Federal State of China. In Mandarin, he made an impassioned call to arms…
    Guo built toward a climactic finish, chanting a slogan - “Take Down the CCP!” In Chinese. After the ninth repetition, he switched to English, and Bannon joined in. Guo was in a celebratory mood. He kissed Bannon on the cheek, and gazing up at him, said, “Love You.”
    “Thank you,” Bannon said. “Are we still on live?” To close out the ceremony, they presented a statement of principles, which Guo signed in his own blood. (Bannon skipped that part.)

    Guo is an intriguing figure and is mixed up in all kinds of wild things.  Fresh Air did a solid episode on him.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/10/29/1131916203/jemele-hill-evan-osnos-guo-wengui-alexandra-horowitz

  9. 8 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

    Just picking on one here but the COVID-19 vaccines don't alter your DNA truth... It's been decided that these guys "lie" and don't tell the truth and it should never have been allowed:

      80 year old Rudolf Jaenisch is a Professor of Biology at MIT and a founding member of the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research. He is a pioneer of transgenic science, in which an animal’s genetic makeup is altered.  Awards: Wolf Prize in Medicine, Massry Prize, National Medal of Science for Biological Sciences, Robert Koch Medal and Award

       Richard Young also of MIT, Recognized among top 50 leaders in science, technology and business by Scientific American (2006), Elected member of the National Academy of Sciences (2012), Elected member of the National Academy of Medicine (2019)

    I'm going to need to know how Twitter should have banned them or their information for spreading misinformation on their field they are considered experts in.

    Shouldn't we be welcoming their input? Isn't that how science works? Postulate something, show your research, have others look to prove or disprove it?

     

    There are no absolute truths in science, so yes there are such things as multiple truths, we just may not know it yet.

    The research conducted by those two scientists did not show that Covid vaccines alter DNA. We should welcome their input, but we shouldn't welcome misinformation about their research.  https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines/fact-check-controversial-mit-study-does-not-show-that-mrna-vaccines-alter-dna-idUSL1N2PK1DC

    Here is Jaenisch's institute's twitter account. https://twitter.com/WhiteheadInst

    Here is Young's twitter account. https://twitter.com/youngricka

    Those two scientists were not banned or censored on twitter.

     

     

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  10. 4 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

    forest for the trees. 

    this represents a much bigger and seemingly reoccurring issue - journalists/govt officials/staffers holding back the good (read felony) shit for their books. 

    you think nara is all she knew about?

    Maybe she knew about 9/11 before it happened! Lets string her up.

  11. 4 minutes ago, Marcusshelton said:

    I’d like to know Twice’s take on this. I’ve seen this sentiment a few times in the thread, but haven’t seen (or perhaps missed) the response. 

    The difference between an ex-president and a normal citizen is that a normal citizen can’t assert executive privilege over certain documents generated during their presidency.  A main thrust of the special master is to determine which documents (if any) should be shielded from investigators due to executive privilege.  

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  12. 47 minutes ago, Captainant said:

    And it's also why the trumpy justice system is throwing itself infront of this issue and entertaining every feckless and facile legal filing by trump and giving them equal weight as a century of precedence and jurisprudence. It's just another example by trump to weaponize and exploit our cautious by design legal system, only to pull the rug out from under the pollyanas who lack the vision to actually see and recognize what's happening. 

    I remain wishing I had just a whif of the faith twice had in our system. Trump is too rich and too well connected to actually face any real consequence, because he'll always have an avenue for appealing and delaying. And we'll get tut-tut-ed at by twice for being impatient, TWO FUCKING YEARS AFTER THE CRIME HAPPENED AND WE STILL HAVENT EVEN CHARGED THE FUCKING TANGERINE 

    This is clearly a tactic by team trump to try and stall the investigation and indictment. People can see that as the sky is falling I guess.  

    But hopefully everyone can once and for all dispel the idea that this is somehow about returning classified documents back to trump.  

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  13. 3 minutes ago, lemonlime said:


    Right. But he plainly never had ownership of documents marked classified. Meaning he stole them. Or even under the best possible interpretation since there’s been no trial he somehow possessed documents he didn’t own. To appoint a special master over those documents is still bonkers.

    Yeah.  And stealing, hiding, and not returning classified documents is a crime.  That is why the FBI obtained a search warrant and took possession of the classified documents from Mar-a-Lago.  That is why there is chatter that Trump is under threat of a criminal indictment.  

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  14. 2 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

    Cannon's initial decision was bonkers.  She essentially assigned a special master to review documents to determine if documents trump stole from the government should somehow be returned to the thief under an imaginary legal theory the thief's lawyers never explained.  Yes, that's never been decided by a court before.  Because it's fucking crazy.

    Personal and attorney-client privileged documents will be returned to Trump.  Classified documents and presidential  records will not be returned to Trump. Trump may get access to presidential records for things like a library or whatever, but he will not have ownership of them. 

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  15. 3 hours ago, TXSG8R said:

    Lesser evil is still evil.  Both parties gerrymander, both have people that go straight party ticket.  I agree that the issue is worse on one side of the aisle, but the two party system is the biggest problem. It makes issues binary, zero room for compromise. Congress no longer functions as a body, and now the judiciary has been fully compromised. 

    Both parties gerrymander because those are the rules of the game.  Only one party is actively trying to strengthen democracy and end gerrymandering.  Imagine expecting the democrats to not use the existing rules to their advantage.  If Dems would have gotten a couple extra seats in the Senate, For the Peoples Act would have passed ending gerrymandering nationwide for federal elections.  The two-party system is broken because one of the two parties is broken.  

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  16. 2 hours ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

    The tantrum surrounding not being taken to the capitol / secret service confrontation in the vehicle seems like essentially a collateral story to me. Doesn't add that much to his knowledge and culpability...unless I'm missing something. 

    So of course that's what everyone is focusing on in the media and twittersphere.

    If true, his tantrum to get to the capital further connects him with the protest/riot that attempted to physically stop the certification process.  His other connections are his prior Twitter statements leading up to Jan 6th and his statements to the crowd at the event.  Other potential connections may be backroom correspondence with Stone, Flynn and others to coordinate actions by the oath keepers and proud boys on Jan 6th.  
     

    The tantrum with secret service isn’t a big deal by itself but when considered in totality with everything else it points toward him trying to stop the election certification 

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  17. 9 hours ago, Fletch said:

    His ads are great but it just doesn’t fucking matter. Fucking aggys have taken over half the country. Talking to a republican about politics is exactly like talking to aggy about sports. Facts don’t matter. They believe exactly what they’re told and there’s no changing their minds. Ever. I’ve tried with a handful and there’s just no fucking hope. 

    The game isn't about changing the minds of the bases. The game is to suppress turnout and contributions of the Rs and motivate turnout and contributions of the Ds with the rare occasional flip. 

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  18. 32 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

    I don't understand the danger. The argument is that the Rs will try to do the same to Biden and any other Dem prez in the future...as if these crazy motherfuckers aren't going to do that regardless. The Dems need to get over this idea that they need to abide by some unwritten rulebook to keep the Rs or else the Rs will do whatever. They're going to do the worst shit no matter what you do. 

    The “not prosecuting the president” norm is a political cultural issue mostly unique to the US. The idea was that we don’t want to be a banana republic like Venzelua or wherever where the current ruling party constantly jails the prior ruler. We wanted to be too good for all of that. It seems we aren’t. 

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  19. 2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    Your conclusion is misguided. Moderate evidence of a total reduction in homicides based on a very limited data (because the GOP doesn't allow these laws to go into effect) is more than enough to pursue waiting periods nationally. 

    The fact that criminals have such ready to access to guns from illicit sources is a reason to enact greater control safety reform and limit distribution. It doesn't support the conclusion that such laws are not worthwhile. Illegal firearms are, at some point in the chain, obtained legally. We need to better monitor the distribution.  

    Yep.

    That data indicates "the law (waiting periods) appears to reduce the outcomes (suicide/homicide)."  Waiting periods obviously should be done - however, we would need a value system that values the lives of children and fellow citizens over the convenience of obtaining a firearm.  We would need more folks to be less selfish - more folks to live by the bible and tenants of what it means to be Christian - or shit just be a normal good person. 

    To address criminal access to guns from illicit sources we would need to IMO a licensing/registration system to curb the flow of new firearms into the population and give a means to remove a firearm once a person dies or allows the license to lapse  - and actively remove firearms from the population through buyback programs.  Again, we would need more folks willing to endure a tiny bit of sacrifice - more actual Christians (instead of fake ass hypocrites).  

  20. 13 hours ago, MrBig said:

    We need a system similar to the DMV where buyers of guns and ammunition need a license similar to driving a certain type of vehicle. 
     

    That is exactly what Australia did, but it requires a mature political environment to do common sense things like that.  Thanks GOP and irresponsible gun owners who value their convivence over the lives of children and fellow citizens.

    https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/133198/Licence_Categories_and_Firearm_Types_FACT_Sheet.pdf

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