Posts posted by TXSooner518
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4 minutes ago, wood said:Your ability to completely miss the point while simultaneously making the point for us is astonishingly impressive.
We're jammed in there already, even at 1 butt per seat. The last thing we need is a bunch of sweaty, ugly dudes and fat chicks wedging their way into an already crowded space.
This. I agree if anyone is mad about people standing, yelling, drinking, etc. that they are idiots and in the wrong and can go watch on TV.
But you're goddamn right that if I spend hundreds of dollars apiece for tickets, I want myself (and my 70 year old dad and 16 year old kid) to be able to sit down during timeouts or a 20 minute halftime, etc., especially when it's 200 degrees already and don't need some guy sweating rotgut in our laps. Go to the seat you paid for. If you want a better seat, stop being poor.
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1 hour ago, MikeUT8750 said:
So dont worry blue hairs, you can sit in your little premium bluehair section and jerk each other off to the memory of old Red, sipping your arnold palmies not worrying about someone screaming in your ear when we score a TD.
LOL at people being "bluehairs" because they don't want people stealing their already limited space. How many people do you think can wedge into a row beyond its actual seating numbers before it's too many? 2 is fine. 4? 6? If I bring a group of 12 and just smash in and someone's all pressed up on your fiancee, you gonna get pissy or gonna be chill?
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3 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:Parking in someone’s front yard is part of the charm.
One of my favorite OU-Texas stories, way back in the day my dad was going to the game and pulled into this long series of yards, pays the guy at entrance, then there's a string of guys who keep waving him forward, waving him forward, until finally the last guy just waves him back out into the street again.
And to your point, sure, but lots of people park at a school or a church, etc., not really taking in the local culture, so to say.
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14 minutes ago, wood said:
I mean, I dgaf if you drink, or if you drink like a girl, or whatever. But nah man, for what tickets go for now, I ain't gettin' squeezed into half of the normal Cotton Bowl space (that's pretty small to begin with) because you can't figure out how to buy tickets. I've been to about 30 of the last 40 TX-ou games and have managed to never buy seats on the wrong end. Weird.
This. We had some people wedging into our row a few years ago and people couldn't sit down during timeouts etc because of it, and when we called them out on it, they acted like we were the assholes for trying to actually get what we had paid a premium for. GTFOH.
I've sat on the Texas side in 1999 (my second OU/TX, was very drunk, by myself in that seat (my friends had already gotten tickets in OU side), and talked A LOT of shit when it was 17-0)), 2000, 2001, 2008, 2011, and on the 50ish in 1995 and one other year. Wife hates sitting on the opposite side, so I don't anymore, but it can really be fun, especially if you are around people who can have some goodnatured shittalking fun without devolving into violent cromags.
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1 minute ago, Rickylovesweed said:
You don't think the style of play has an impact on certain predictive metrics/systems?
Bill Connelly has personally admitted that SP+ (S&P back in the day) for whatever reason did not properly predict/evaluate Herman's teams. Even when he was at Houston. Ian Boyd and Bill Connelly had a long discussion about this a few years ago.
What, specifically, does Wyoming do and how, specifically, does it affect the metrics?
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1 minute ago, Magus Ossis said:
Advanced metrics are models. The best model in the universe can't reliably extrapolate from the ability to beat bad teams to know whether you'll play well against a good team early in the season. There is literally a complete absence of the data of interest resulting in total dependence on guessing how to interpret proxy data which is known not to map closely. OU looks good to models that are analyzing turds for data. If OU had even 30 snaps on each side of the ball this year against a solid opponent, the computers would have at least something on which to chew. As it stands, those metrics are just guessing, as shown by the fact that expert humans all seem to agree that OU should be the underdog, but ESPN's machines disagree. The machines are not stupid; they lack useful data.
Most models have OU the slight underdog. And those models are used heavily in a multibillion dollar industry, it's pretty laughable that you think they are wholly unreliable. The biggest thing is of course that every team has a range of possible results, and so you get outlier outcomes when one team is at the far end of its range and the other is at the opposite end of theirs. Or individual fluky plays. But if OU and Texas could run this game a million times, the end result would be pretty close to 500k-500k. Tech-Wyoming pretty close to 800k-200k Tech.
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2 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:
No, I just don't take advanced metrics as the end all be all. At the end of the day, it's about wins and losses.
When Tech is 20 or 30 spots higher than Wyoming in the advanced metrics (like ESPN efficiency) it's not about "who would be the favorite" it's just that Wyoming is probably undervalued.
When Wyoming is 5-1 after this weekend with wins against a P5 team, a decent G5 team in App State, a really good G5 team in Fresno State, and a close loss to Texas I could give two shits if they are ranked outside the top 70 in advanced metrics. They're definitely better than that based on their resume.
Wait I had it on good authority Wyoming got the piss beaten out of them. @Fumbles get in here!
And predictive metrics are exactly about who is better and who would win going forward, not about evaluating resumes. I'm waiting for that explanation about how Wyoming's style of play confounds all the systems though.
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Just now, Rickylovesweed said:
Of course Tech would be favored again. When did I deny that?
My point is that Wyoming is not the 80th best team in the country. That will be obvious this weekend when they beat a really good Fresno State team.
When you said "For instance, Texas Tech is still ranked above Wyoming in almost every advanced metric by a good bit even though Wyoming beat them." If you agree Tech is better, then of course they should be higher in advanced metrics.
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11 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:
Spread was Texas -7.5 last year.
We were discussing this last year over 7am Fair parking lot booze and gummies and decided it had to mean Gabriel was playing. If you could have assured me he wasn't taking snaps, I would have bet literally every penny of disposable income I had on Texas. Beville is legit the worst QB I've ever seen start for OU and I went there and attended every home game for the Schnelly and Blake years.
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Just now, Rickylovesweed said:
The issue with the advanced metrics is they don't value Wyoming as much as they should based on their style of play.
For instance, Texas Tech is still ranked above Wyoming in almost every advanced metric by a good bit even though Wyoming beat them. When Wyoming beats a ranked Fresno State team this weekend people will start to realize that the advanced metrics aren't an accurate reflection of them as a team.
So you have figured out a "style of play" loophole in advanced metrics that Sagarin, Connelly, Vegas, etc., are all blind to and unable to correct? Please describe exactly how Wyoming's style of play creates this conundrum. Does it bake in that their starting QB missed the Texas game? Also, if Tech and Wyoming played again, Tech would be favored again. Tech ran fairly bad to lose that game. I agree Wyoming isn't garbage, but if you play in the Cotton Bowl the way you did the first three quarters of that game, Texas will get their asses handed to them.
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Just now, Constant said:
Which metric are you referring to here? Just my eyes alone would say Colorado has played a tougher schedule than Texas.
Or Florida State. Or Ole Miss. Or LSU, South Carolina, Auburn, Tulsa, a couple dozen other teams. But this dude thinks 10-10 in the 4th and failing to cover by multiple scores is "beating the piss" out of someone so may be a lost cause.
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2 minutes ago, Fumbles said:It was a 31-10 victory. You can run whatever semantics arguments you want, whatever statistical arguments you want, OU hasn’t played anyone and Texas has looked dominant against the best schedule in football to this point.
Please provide the source for "best schedule in football" because LOL no. One elite win for sure. Then Rice, Wyoming (with a backup QB), Kansas (with a backup QB), Baylor (with a backup QB).
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How not to sit with Blow U
in Football
Your post literally was "I can't afford seats I want, so I bought other seats, and now want to sit in the seats I can't afford." The cheapest pair of tickets on SeatGeek on the Texas side is about 80 bucks more expensive than the cheapest pair on the OU side. No, as a 40 year old person, 80 dollars shouldn't be so significant to you that you dramatically worsen not only your own experience, but everyone else's around you.
Hey, I know, I don't wanna spend $24 for Deep Fried Pho, so I'll just spit on someone else's that just bought it and then take it from them! Don't like it, come on BLUEHAIR, get with it!