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  1. 14 hours ago, pubes said:

    cmon. comparing this to Baylor is making Baylor look good. KU fraternities are fucking HORRIBLE. But they’re private. I don’t understand (I am dense) why the headline isn’t the house rather than the university. Fraternities are getting roughed up nationwide. As many of them should. 

    Fraternities are official university organizations, and that specific one is even on campus. They're private in that they don't personally receive funding from the university, but they are very much still a part of the university. They belong to the university Greek Life council, for example, which handles taking in and spending money on fraternity events and functions as a council. It is the official university connection which allows them to use campus buildings and rooms for fraternity meetings.

    The headline is on the University, because that frat can't exist on campus without the university's explicit blessing, and their chapter exists as a university organization. The university can literally shut them down as an official chapter if they want. As a private organization they could still exist unofficially, but without university sanction, their charter with their parent organization would dissolve and they'd be an unofficial fraternity with no say in the Greek council.

    Individual fraternity chapters are official university clubs. It's the same way you'd probably protest the university if the university chess club raped a student and was still allowed to be an official university organization. The same way you'd protest a university if they refused to kick a student out of university dorms for raping a student.

    The frat is in legal trouble, the protest is about KU's continued official involvement with the fraternity as a member of KU greek council.

    Souce: I was the president of a major fraternity at Texas when I was a student.

  2. 2 hours ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

    I’ve mentioned this same sentiment for several years also. Entitlement, and at the same time victimhood, are the calling cards of the woke society at large and Austin is at the forefront. If not consciously then subconsciously, that thinking does not lend itself to pulling yourself up by the bootstraps when the going gets tough. And if you think we are soft now wait until NIL really kicks in. Not trying to make this a CR discussion, I’m just grasping at straws with how consistently top 10 classes and coaches who supposedly know their Xs and Os when hired can suddenly create a steaming pile of shit when mixed together. And we could just all be overreacting to a coach in his 2nd game who hasn’t had one recruiting class yet that got his shit pushed in with what he has to work with. I don’t think he thinks he can win with either QB. Like every other coach we have to give them the requisite 3 years. Fuck it. I think I woke up drunk. Gonna be a long season. I’m too old for this shit.

    Hey dipshit, "pulling yourself up from your bootstraps" is an ironic saying that caught on with morons too stupid to get the sarcasm. It's literally impossible to pull oneself up from their boot straps, if you are leaning into the mentality that you're going to pull yourself up from your boot straps to right your wrongs, you are purposefully buying into the impossible.

    It's funny how hypocritical those who bitch about "woke culture" are. You are weeping about entitlement, because you think you're entitled to watch a bunch of 19 year olds run around for your pleasure and to give you victories by osmosis. And that because you didn't get to feel slight tingle in your tiny dick while riding the accomplishments of some kids you'll never even meet face to face, you're now the victim of this big bad "let's stop beating up black people" culture, said without a hint of irony. Get fucked.

    You woke up drunk because you're a miserable alcoholic riddled with brain damage and the early stages of dementia. You are indeed too old for this shit, I recommend a bleach IV to fix that.

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  3. 2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

    The resistance will last about 3 more months when this year's Pac-12 champ is left out again. 

    Right? The alliance doesn't do much to boost their playoff chances, any system with conference champs getting an auto-bid is something that benefits the Pac (and B12 vicariously if they retain P5).

     

    It's not gonna be the Big 12 alone being left out of playoff spots, it'll just be a Big Ten team, an ACC team, and two SEC teams going forward most years.

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  4. 3 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

    I’ll believe the media rights numbers when the final ink is dry and we also have the full details of the T3 and title game payout…

     

    Im glad for BYU as a whole and always felt that they would end up being one of the winner in this round of realignment, but it just feels like all they did was go from an independent that was viewed as a fringe P5 school to joining a conference that keeps them as a being a fringe P5 playoff contender.
     

    I think there are enough eyeball tests for the Big 12 to pass as a P5 rather than a G5, although to be clear they're certainly at the line. Let's say media rights don't pan out, I still think this group of members can pull more than any other G5 conference. I would expect most members of the conference, excluding Kansas, to probably beat most G5 conference games they play in. Most importantly, they have a member who has a consensus national championship within my life time now with BYU. Every other P5 conference has multiple, but the G5 conferences all have none. The Iowa State dude above who has been melting down also notes how the new Big 12 would have two top 10 teams in the AP rankings right now, which no G5 conference has ever done.

    Like, for all the shit the Big 12 got, it never was a bad football conference in terms of performance. Many seasons, it was top 2 in terms of competitiveness. I think the Pac 12 is overall a worse football conference outside of the heavy weight. I just don't feel like if you take out the top teams in the Big 12, the rest are instantly worse than all the other G5 conferences. Like, perception is king, and I still think schools like Texas Tech are historically a step above, say, Tulane.

    I think the Big 12 has juuuust enough residual clout among all its members, plus juuuuust enough accomplishment in my lifetime, to differentiate themselves from G5, especially once playoffs expand.

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  5. 26 minutes ago, mdmost said:

    Time to retire Window Cougar. BYU is in the big leagues...for now. 

    Their dreams come true, they're not only in a big league, they're the big dog of that league. They hold the conference's lone concensus national championship in football, have the most fans in the conference, and are the biggest stadium. Texas and OU's trash is BYU's feast.

      

    20 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

    “Big leagues” is relative. It is almost cruel that BYU is going to the B12 knowing that the SEC, Pac12, B1G, and ACC is walling off access to the playoffs and in effect now relegating the B12 to G6 status

    the estimated value of the Big 12's media rights going forward puts them in a tier above G5. They'll be making around $25 million per school, where G5 schools tend to be around $5-8 million. They will without a doubt be the weakest, smallest, least powerful of the P5, but eventually the playoffs will expand and the Big 12 will have an inside edge on the G5 for a lower seed slot.

    As weakened as the Big 12 is, it's still a huge step up from BYU. BYU isn't notre dame. Their media rights are worth around $8 million a year. Definitely G5 status, but in the Big 12, they will almost triple their value. And those estimates are already accounting for the loss of Texas and OU.

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  6. 8 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    I'd expect that to, but it's never really happened as much as it has here.

    Because, is there any doubt Ohio State and Michigan could make more by hooking up with you guys and Bama?

    If the big dicks at the SEC started cutting dead weight and jettisoning the Mississippis, Mizzou, Vandy, etc, and seriously consolidating the blue bloods and movers and shakers of the sport into a power conference, you bet your ass OSU and Michigan would leave. If it was looking like this lone ultra-conference would constitute official "top dog" college football, like a new tier, and thus would be the only way towards a real top-end national championship, OSU and Michigan would take their places at the table. The reason they don't leave right now, is because they already have their in via the college football playoffs. They don't need to move anywhere, because their invitation is already sent if they win their conference. As we saw in the Big 12, multiple times a worthy Big 12 winner would be left out of the playoffs discussion. The Big 12 is a catch 22. In order for the conference to seem viable for playoff contention, OU and Texas need to be good. But in order for non-OU and non-Texas teams to win the conference, they have to beat OU and Texas, which makes OU and Texas "not good."

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  7. 3 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    They probably hate Oklahoma's more?

    I mean, the thing that's hard for us is why are you guys the way you are and Ohio State and Michigan aren't?  We have to look at Iowa, who is as "worthless" as we are or more less, and they don't have to worry about shit because Ohio State and Michigan are completely fine subsidizing them.

    75% of the current P5 are schools that would be in this spot if the blue bloods they associate with got sick of doing so.

    This sounds like historic revisionism regarding Michigan. Michigan has a long, long history of being a dick regarding Big Ten membership. Ask Notre Dame.

    If the tables were turned, and instead of Nebraska bolting the Big 12, say Penn State had left the Big Ten and suddenly things were looking rocky over there, historically I'd expect Michigan to look out for itself primarily.

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  8. 2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    You guys have more history from the SWC, but for the rest of us, I don't think anyone can outdo hatred for murder scandals and rape enabling.

    Has nothing to do with conference. They talk shit about the Big 12 members like Okie Lite as well, yall just don't pay attention to them because of distance. In UH fandoms minds, if only they had the power 5 funding, they'd be ruling college football because Houston, the city, is huge. They feel like they're a sleeping giant, whose knees were cut off by the Bowl Alliance cartel to keep them down.

    You'll learn about them really quickly. They have the perfect fanbase for a school representing the piece of shit, insecure city that Houston is.

  9. 2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    I don't know much about them, but from what I do know, they are going to be the second most hated team after baylor. 

    I hate UH fans way more than Baylor fans. Everyone at UH has a chip on their shoulder from being 5th choice, and their accomplishments match the quality of their livestock. At least Baylor has won a fucking Natty in a major sport. UH fans are basically aggys with even less accomplishment and more anger.

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