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Posts posted by Catdaddyhorn
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To be supremely successful running the stuff Shaka wants we'd need more guys like Ramey, J'Covan Brown, and DJ Augustin. Guys who can shoot from deep, shoot in the midrange/floater area, pass, drive, and handle. Also who's overall IQ and instincts would lead them to make good decisions most of the time (J'Covan didn't necessarily have this). The point is that you don't need uber athletic guards to do the things Shaka has asked his guards to do, but you definitely need good decision makers and just as important you need guards skilled in all facets of offensive basketball. You can't have a bunch of guards lacking in 2 or more of the 5 main areas. Even a high IQ team full of guards like TJ Ford wouldn't necessarily be maximized in this offense because they wouldn't be enough of a shooting threat collectively to open the floor up.
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1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:
LOL, so not even as good as Julio Jones...but a better version?! Come on, bro.
Yeah that's a ridiculous take
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double post
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2 hours ago, ztejas said:
I'm talking about the last few years, not just this year's roster. I barely know who Texas 8 deep is this season - I just know none of them are particularly captivating with the ball in their hands from what I've watched.
Also - I said "athlete" not "elite athlete". You can be good at basketball because of your athleticism while not being an elite athlete.
I was more or less using your post to push back against the frequently spouted narrative on this board that we're a team full of athletes. We really aren't. We're a team full of flawed basketball players who aren't being utilized in a manner to minimize those flaws. We're trying to play a free wheeling, open court style without enough capable guards (or skilled bigmen I'm looking at your Dylan) to do it to any level of precision. Maybe a healthy Andrew Jones would've relieved things a little, but even with him I don't think guys like Coleman and Febres are skilled enough to facilitate what Shaka wants to run. And Roach's spaz threshold seems to have come back down to sophomore year levels. We'd have a much better chance running more structures sets from the free throw line extended allowing for more room for backdoor cuts and high low block to block movement from our bigs. Our main guards are neither savvy nor skilled enough to run the stuff Shaka has tried to run over the past 2 years.
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People are using the word athlete a bit too liberally. The only elite athletes on the squad are Hayes, Sims, & Roach. Nobody else on the team is even close to special athletically, especially relative to other D1 players.
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Uh, to the NBA.
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If he doesn't make the 2nd round he needs to go.
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18 hours ago, Post Oak said:
Priority number 1 for Jerry this off-season (assuming JG stays) is to find an OC and a veteran QB coach to better maximize Dak and refine his skillset.*
*Excluding FA
Fify.
Keep Kellen in the organization for his potential as a play calling savant down the road (supposedly play design creativity is where he excels), but he has no business being a QB coach at this point in his career.
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Of all the games we played this year how is that the only game you watched?
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Despite his relative failures at Florida and current mediocrity at South Carolina I think Muschamp would've been successful here. Especially with someone like Holgerson at OC to get him started off on the right foot.
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8 hours ago, meansonny said:
That is exactly my Point. Don't lose twice. No point in scheduling tougher games because the committee doesn't give a shit.
UGA played at Notre Dame and at Georgia Tech last season. We play Notre Dame at home and @ Georgia Tech next season. When we play you in about 10 years, we play you, Clemson, and Tech all in the same season
We generally are the best at OOC scheduling from the SEC. But it is becoming apparent that this type of scheduling is counter-productive. It only hurts either team.
Que?
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4 hours ago, Tex Long said:
Devil's Advocate would say that one consequence of Colt'ed (or Sherrod'ed) victory over 'Bama would have been that Mack would've honored his "intention" to turn over the keys to Boom, who in turn would've hired Holgo, and that 2010 disaster would've never happened. Take it from there...
This is the first time I've ever heard of Holgerson being in the picture. I always assumed Major would've gotten the job.
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7 hours ago, sushihorn said:
Yep. McElroy dropped back 16 times. They resulted in an INT and 5 sacks vs 6 completions and 1 3rd down conversion. Those were the results when Bama was passing with every conceivable advantage: playing with a lead, no pressure to score, against a backup QB allowing theme to run the ball and play action off of it, passing when they chose. They still sucked at passing.
Can you imagine the carnage if Bama would have been forced into playing catch up and obvious passing downs all night?
Never had the phrase "styles make fights" been so appropriate than it was for this game. Saban was still adhering to his "the bigger the better" recruiting philosophy and thus had a big, slow as fuck team. From our first offensive possession forward it was clear as day that we were exceptionally faster than them. And given the fact that he went for a fake punt right off the bat, it's obvious that Saban was keenly aware of what this game would've looked like had we gotten off to a good start offensively. This game has to still eat at Mack. I said 20 points earlier, but it was false humility. There's no way that Bama gets within 4 TDs had we started this game up 14. Their passing game simply wasn't ever going to be successful against us.
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Are you seriously dying on this hill?
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38 minutes ago, Goo Punch said:
Our team is 65-225 from deep this year. 28.8% on a ridiculous 28.1 three point attempts per game.
Texas fans: "our offense can't possibly get any worse."
Shaka: "Hold my beer."
Talk about straight up sabotaging your own team. We suck at something so somehow doing it more will fix it. One thing I remember from the early readings on Shaka when he first got here is how much of an adherent he is to analytics and the modern credo of basketball that says the only thing better than a 3 is a layup or a shot at the rim. He is clearly overly reliant on this new age wisdom which actually works provided you meet a certain level of effectiveness. A level of effectiveness that certainly eclipses our current 29% 3pt rate. The math simply doesn't work for us and he's has us wasting too many trips on the offensive end in a futile effort to force it work.
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1 hour ago, meansonny said:
UGA's five toughest games
Lost to Bama( 13-0 ) neutral field
Beat Florida (9-3)neutral field
Lost @ LSU badly (9-3)
Beat @ Kentucky (9-3)
Beat @ Missouri (8-4)
All of the above are ranked for what it is worth.
Next 2 best wins (to compare to Notre Dames top 5 wins) would be any mix of @ South Carolina, Auburn, and Georgia Tech. All of which are 7-5.
They're 7-5 because your incestuous cackle of state and conference mates only play 8 conference games and thus have 7 fewer losses distributed amongst them.
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People have problems with nuance or discerning non binary concepts. If a person doesn't cuss his mother for ever giving birth to him and talk about how every utterance out of his mouth makes their skin crawl then they're viewed as a supporter by some.
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7 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:
Did you not post this last week?
Im pretty sure we were under .500 in conference in the 3 years before Shaka got here and that was without a cancer stricken guard, and losing arguably our best player in everyone of those 3 years. Just providing context before the neg storm.Yeah that's a strident defense.
So is this I guess:
QuoteNot just flawed shooting, but nothing is ever earnestly done to attempt to get easy shots. Shit I'd be happy with a post to post screen on the low block or even a simple ass flex offensive set every now and then.
My biggest problem with Shaka is there seems to be a hella lot of give up in him. Whether it be the end of the Duke game last year when he inexplicably looked at both Banks and Hamm sitting on the bench and effectively waived the white flag as he chose Eric Fucking Davis to join Dylan in the front court to match up against Wendall Carter and Marvin Bagley. Or whether it be the last 10 minutes against Michigan State this year or even Radford, at a certain point you just gotta quit banging your head against the wall jacking 3s every other time down the court. You show some actual urgency and fight. At a certain point it becomes time to football the game up and go straight to the rim and crash the boards with everything you got like you want to fucking win. There's absolutely no fight in Shaka and it's exemplified in his teams. Say what you want about Barnes but his team's never had this amount of sheer give up in them. As Febres missed his last 3 against Radford in the waiting seconds there wasn't one Longhorn in the vicinity to come close to coming down with the offensive board. That's simply indefensible.
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4 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:
The only people defending this clown at this point are those like you that only care about the color of his skin. Same as Charlie post Kansas.
He fucking has earned an F and it’s season four.
I wanted Barnes fired bad. And Smart makes Barnes look like John Wooden.
Said the racist.
Where's my defense in the quoted post??? Perhaps you should actually post and read this forum before you make inane comments about who defends who. I was calling out a shitastic take fuckboy. . And for the record I started a thread on the old site about firing Charlie in year 2 and was against him being hired from the start.
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Just now, dcar00 said:
we checked the box. time to move on.
Yeah, every black guy ever hired for anything was hired solely because he's black.
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On 12/4/2018 at 8:08 PM, sushihorn said:
For a conf that throws the ball a bunch, Big XII teams are very good at pass pro. Conversely the SEC is terrible when you consider how many fewer pass plays are run there.
OU: 16 sacks on 386 pass attempts (4.1% sack ratio). WVU: 24 sacks on 407 attempts (5.9%). Texas Tech: 25 sacks on 535 passes (4.7%), OK State: 33 sacks on 448 passes (7.1%)
UK: 24 sacks, 281 att (8.5%). Auburn: 23 sacks, 359 att (6.4%). Tenn: 23 sacks, 297 att (7.8%), LSU: 33 sacks, 353 att (9.3%). Bama: 13 sacks, 374 att (3.5%)
Basically if you put an SEC team in the hole and force them to pass, bad things happen.
Anytime I rewatch the 2009 BCS championship this very thought comes to mind. 70% of the time Mckelroy dropped back he ended up on his ass. Had we been able to force any level of offensive pressure on Bama we win that game by 20 points or more.. Our chances in that game were highly dependent on getting off to a quick start.
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Kidnap Few. I don't care if he loves it in Spokane or wherever Gonzaga is. Force him here by gunpoint.
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Dylan is an absolute oaf. That's like 4 turnovers on the last 5 possesions from him.
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Hold on to the fucking ball.
2018-19 Texas Longhorns thread
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Suffice to say, that even more than offensive ineptness, Shaka's biggest failing here has been roster management, especially with respect to guards. Going into season 2 there was a thread on Shaggy where this concern was voiced. Many were shocked that given what he saw in that first year, he viewed Roach as an adequate PG replacement for Taylor. From the start it was obvious that Roach lacked the savvy to be a PG. I'll admit I hedged and tried to put the best light on it as a gamble against losing Jones in that class or even Coleman in the upcoming class, but I was wrong. He obviously can't evaluate guard play at a sufficient level. And clearly managing his roster and then choosing an offense to maximize said roster has been his achilles heel. Oh, that and Jacob Young over Carsen Edwards. That was as much of a signal as any that this guy doesn't have a clear view of what he needs from a guard for what he wants to run. That choice alone probably obscures a few of the other bad decisions.