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  1. The thing with Mizzou that is amazing to me is that they literally have blown about every advantage a single power 5 state university could possibly blow. Think about past glories at Nebraska, Minnesota, or Colorado. Think about Ohio State, LSU, and even Utah. You can find national championships/ Final Fours/ BCS bowl games rather easily for these teams listed in the last 60 years. 

    Then think about the sizes of St. Louis and Kansas City and being stuck right in the middle of them. Its almost extraordinary to suck this bad. 

    Losing A&M, Nebraska, and Colorado were all more painful than losing Mizzou. WVU is a fine replacement for them. 

  2. 34 minutes ago, tonedeaf said:

    Al, you're a good guy and I for one enjoy our relationship with ISU.  Good folks.  But I think the PAC is more powerful than you think.  They not keeping up in the money, but they have some brand names.  If there is a merger, they will have a strong say in the matter.  They were adamant about not wanting baylor 10 years ago and baylor has done nothing since that time to make themselves more attractive.  Just my opinion, FWIW. 😉

    This...

  3. 2 hours ago, tonedeaf said:

    First of all, please stop referring to baylor is a religious school.  The only God they worship is the one you fold up and put in your wallet.  They mention the Bible only when it fits their narrative.  Secondly, I have it on good authority that they are trying to get the Bible changed from " Jesus and the 12 disciples" to "Jesus and his legal defense team".  That is more in line with their mission.  These motherfuckers had no sympathy for the 4 teams that got left behind when the B12 formed.  As a matter of fact they had no problems rubbing their nose in it.  Not very Christian like to me.  They need their ass kicked to the curb.  Serves 'em right.  They bring nothing to the table other than rape and scandal. Biggest hypocrites on the planet.  We have lawyers too.  Fuck'em.  

    I can't refute any of this...well said.

    I figure the Pac name carries a lot of weight with the media and the B1G. Assuming so, the easiest path forward for keeping that name and all that goes with it is to have the Pac be used as a conduit to get the Pac the better programs in the CST from the Big XII, while really bumping up the cash to be on par with the B1G and SEC. The Pac doesn't have any programs that are terrible brands to networks--the Big 12 basically has two in Baylor and TCU, two small religious schools with small alumni bases, small stadiums, and small followings. Put it this way, when Texas or OU play Stanford or USC, its basically a national game, not a regional one like it is with those two Texas privates.

    I can see a scenario where a Pac 18 would take ISU over KSU, rather easily, but I don't know if that even matters to the Pac if it got them the Texoma Four. Assuming it does matter, I have zero doubt that ISU has more to bring to the Pac than KSU, except for distance and not having an in-state team to travel with, which seems to matter to the Pac more than other leagues. But I would love a conference that looked like this:

    Wash/WSU  Oregon/OSU   Cal/Stanford

    USC/UCLA   Arizona/ASU   Texas/Tech

    Utah/CU       OU/OSU            KU/ISU

    Gives the Pac 3 AAU programs for research, gives the conference three time zones to control and sell to networks, and can still keep geographic rivalries at a premium.

  4. The Pac-12 GOR expire at the end of 2023, while the Big 12 expires in June of 2025.

    I think the way this goes is that the Pac-12 gets a new deal with the idea that behind the scenes, the networks know the Pac will get the Texomakan 6 and move to be the Pac-18. Three time zones, big names in Texas, OU, and KU (hoops), and Pac gets two AAU institutions in UT and KU. It also keeps the lawsuits from Baylor from really ever getting off the ground because they were not invited, most likely because of religious reasons (see BYU) that don't mesh with the liberal views of the West Coast.

    Iowa State and WVU join the AAC, while TCU and Baylor join the MWC.  

  5. 3 hours ago, Thiefery said:

    Think I'd rather the GORs to expire so WVU, baylor can get lost once a merger or new conference is formed.  I hate pods.  Rather have two 8 team divisions.

    WVU will find a place at the table, I bet--still think the ACC or SEC will take them. But Baylor, TCU, and Iowa State are totally about to get dropped backwards--possibly KSU, too.

    Still think the powers that be want the Pac-16/18 to happen--getting the Texoma 4 or the Texomakan 6 would make a lot sense for the networks and bowls. I still see three pods of 6 being setup--Pac 12 North (WSU, Washington, OSU, Oregon, Stanford, Cal) Pac-12 Southwest (USC, UCLA, ASU, Arizona, Tech, UT), and the Pac-12 Midwest (Utah, CU, KSU, KU, OU, and OSU). Play your 5 pod teams, plus 2 from the other pods each, but keep rivalries together annually (UT-OU, USC-Stanford, UCLA-Cal, OSU-Tech, for example). 

    Conference championship game is between the two highest rated division winners.

    In hoops and baseball, you'd play your pod teams home-and-home every year, then play three teams from the other pods each year, rotating those teams out every two years.

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  6. 5 minutes ago, camel at sea said:

    Why save the PAC at all?  The bottom half of the PAC is a lot worse than the bottom half of the Big 12.  And the tippy top of the Big 12 is better than the same in the PAC.  

    Legally, it would just be easier for everyone to separate from the two private schools and WVU if the other conference just invites over the rest of these teams.

    Nobody cares about Baylor or TCU--not to mention those Pac schools want absolutely nothing to do with religious schools (see BYU forever snub from the Pac). WVU is too far away. KSU or ISU are what's left and ISU provides a whole different state and is an AAU institution.

    It would just be simpler to get the Pac schools to invite over pieces than it would be for the Big XII to get USC/UCLA and others to leave to come here. My guess is that a network (CBS or NBC) will lead the charge here and time this for the GOR expiring over here in 2025. If the Pac just wants 4 programs to not go any higher than 14, I suspect it would be the Texoma 4 or take out Tech for KU with the other three. I could even see a deal to invite over UT, OU, KU, and ISU, just to keep the AAU total higher for those in the academic leadership in the Pac.

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  7. What needs to be done is for the Pac to get their shit together and bring over the Big XII pieces that are worth it for revenue sports and academia.

    I'd do this:

    Pac NW--Washington, WSU, Oregon, Oregon State, Cal, Stanford

    Pac--Midwest--Kansas, Iowa State, Colorado, Utah, OU, and OSU

    Pac SW--Arizona, Arizona State, USC, UCLA, Tech, and Texas

    You play all 5 teams in your division, plus 2 others in each divisions--with one being an annual rival game if needed (Texas/OU, OSU/Tech, USC/Stanford, UCLA/Cal, Washington/Arizona, Colorado/Kansas).

    Conference Championship game is between the two highest ranked teams in the BCS ranking. You get three time zones, Pac adds in 3 AAU institutions in UT, KU, and ISU, and you get to work on better networks for the entire system.

     

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  8. 6 minutes ago, tonedeaf said:

    If we take USC and dump baylor, then add the AZ schools, that would be back to 12 right?  Would that work?  :) 

    There is no dumping of Baylor as long as the Big XII exists, which is too bad for the rest of us.

  9. 19 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

    I know the commentators have beaten it to death this year but Gillespie is such a huge surprise to everyone. When our big man Clark went down last year with the knee I thought that until he fully returned we'd be sunk and then Scott pulled a rabbit's foot out of his ass and here we are. If Clark was fully healthy now that would be a helluva rotation at bigs. He's getting better though and there's still some weeks left for him to get his game back. March could be special this year for the Bears. 2010 was an incredible ride and this one could end up topping that, making the FF would be nice after being so close. It's been 10 years in the making. Buncha spares, lol.

    I honestly can't see Baylor falling short of the Final Four as long as they don't go like 1-20 from behind the arc in some game in the tournament--which is the same for everyone in the country. The Baylor guards are just too big and too tough to let them get beat. When they have played anyone with a pulse in the last three months, they have pretty much beaten the quality teams to a pulp. That list includes Villanova, Arizona, Butler, Tech, KU, OU, Florida and WVU. They have games at OU and WVU left, as well as home games with KU and Tech. I honestly don't see them losing any of them, maybe one at the most. 

    They are basically raping the field...

  10. Baylor just has the look of being that team....they are more talented than everyone else and Scott Drew has just gotten better with age.

    I think Baylor wins this weekend by 8-10 points. If they make their 3s, it could be 12-15. They are that good. I think we will see just how big the difference is between #1 and #3. KU will have to play much better than in Lawrence agains the Bears just to keep this around that 8-10 point level. Otherwise, it’ll be a carbon copy of the first game.

  11. On 2/15/2020 at 7:37 PM, Jhawk said:

    I thought wvu would beat them on the boards and have a chance. Drew might earn some respect from me this year.  Especially if he gets out of the elite 8. 

    It sure looks like this is Baylor's and Scott Drew's breaking out year. I think they have a great chance to win out. I know they have played down some to their competition of late, but when they have played anyone good or great in the last few months, they have won, fairly easily. As a matter of fact, I expect them to beat KU fairly easily next Saturday in Waco. The Baylor guards give Kansas guards fits because of their size, shooting, and ball-handling. And their frontcourt can play with KU's frontcourt, from a size standpoint. Its very possible that Baylor is the ONLY team in the country that is better than Kansas.

    And the person who can figure out how Baylor has avoided the wrath of God for killing people and raping girls while getting them covered up, as well as skinning cats by baseball players, for their athletic teams, I'm all ears. 

  12. 12 hours ago, CheesePie said:

    By god, we should go for the Michigan State coach then

    You laugh, but its that kind of possibility that might just surprise you. He and Bill Self might be gettable just because they need to get away from the wildfire brewing around their programs. Probably not, but more likely than Beard, Wright, Mack, etc...

  13. 4 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

    If we have big money donors who are that interested in basketball, they need to be encouraged to open their wallets to land a proven name prior to the opening of our new arena.  At some point, conference realignment is going to put certain programs outside the Power 5 on the bubble, and some coaches might be looking to move.  Would Jay Wright come to Austin?  Doubtful, but we need to ask.  What happens to 'nova if and when conferences coalesce to four super-conferences?  Would it even matter in basketball?

    So many questions, no answers.

    In my opinion, whatever happens in the future with conference realignment, basketball will still be different and the Big East will still be a Basketball Power Conference included with the other power leagues, basically like they are now.

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  14. 2 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

    While Tech is rebuilding they are still in games.  Tech will be a monster next year with the young talent developing this year and the talent that will come in and be on the floor next year.  Beard will have this team going deep in the tourney next season.

    Yes, they will. Tech might still make a deep run in the tournament this year, just because of how hard they play and the fact that they have one of the absolute best coaches in the country. Although I wouldn't predict it, its certainly not out of the question. They have already shown against Louisville, Kansas, and West Virginia that they can play with the better teams in the land.

  15. 6 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

    Yep. And NU only got in because they WERE, past tense AAU. NU isn't anymore because Texas, yes, the one Korn always bitches about, kept pushing to keep them was the ONLY reason they were. They left the Big XII, Texas said fuck'em and the B1G voted unanimously to kick them from AAU.

    Missery has never sniffed AAU. B1G sees no market value nor academic value. SEC, imo, took them as a package deal to "get into Texas" unaware that BCS is not part of Texas rather an Island of Freaks and Weirdos that noone can understand from the outside.

    Missouri has been an AAU institution since 1908.

    Kansas is the school that will, ironically, fit their AAU model, as well as give them a decent TV market, and help with hoops. It would be rather funny to see Missouri, who had to watch Nebraska steal their coveted B1G spot, then watch Kansas go there, too, when the Big XII GOR expires.

  16. 1 hour ago, El Diablo said:

    Would explain the slime trail leading to/from Phog Allen.

    Yeah, because Waco/Baylor is so beautiful...

    We don’t need to hear from a Rapist/Murderer telling us how awful anywhere else.

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  17. 3 hours ago, Camelback80 said:

    It isn't "against the coach's wishes." The point is Shaka has agreed to utilize him in a way he wants to be utilized as part of his signing here.

    Again, the coach has so little standing on his sideline that he lets a guy who should earn the right to shoot outside of the paint just be able to do what he wants to do?

    No wonder things have been so bad.

  18. 6 hours ago, Camelback80 said:

    Right, it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the Kansas team is made up of 7 or 8 of the best basketball athletes/players in the country. 

    Not even close—Duke and Kentucky have them in a much closer ratio than Kansas. Hell, Baylor is way more athletic than anyone in this conference by a mile.

    6 hours ago, Camelback80 said:

    It isn't Shaka's choice. That's how Will Baker wants to be utilized because that's what NBA players do. Will Baker was a highly sought after recruit and you don't land a player like that without promising that he will be trained up in an NBA style offense where everyone shoots 3's. One can only assume that he shoots a higher percentage in practice, but whatever the case he looks a lot like a bewildered freshman out there and he is in no way ready for Big12 play.

    So basically a guy on the team that hardly plays is being so selfish to shoot 3s against the coaches wishes? 
     
    Said coach should be fired if true, when said coach has done nothing but steal $$$ from the university.

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