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  1. 12 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

    Oh no, they're the only legit hard working people in the country while those lazy coloreds get all the breaks 🙄

    I grew up around all that shit and heard every tedious variation of that argument. It's an absolute crock. This is about as accurate of an illustration of that whole dynamic as it can possibly get:

     r/WhatIsThisPainting - CAREFUL MATE... THAT FOREIGNER WANTS YOUR COOKIE!

    But hey, dittoheads gonna dittohead.

    It’s interesting because I don’t think it’s a black vs. white issue. It’s something that is very much an American issue that spans all demographics. Well, except the ones kicking ass I guess. 

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  2. 6 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

    A certain percentage of white Americans will never accept the idea they didn't earn their position in life without any help 

    My parents worked their ass off, I will be forever grateful. It has nothing to do with skin color. 

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  3. 6 minutes ago, Foosters said:

    Your post does not exist in a vacuum. It’s fair for posters to use your past explicit racism to infer your meaning. It’s also a major talking point of the alt-right, of which you are a part. Stop trolling. 

    Unfortunately, I think your inference says far more about you. With allies like y’all, who needs enemies. 

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  4. 54 minutes ago, SilasCoade said:

    Wait, was that not sarcastic from Poe It Up? It was just straight bald faced racism? WOW.

    I didn’t mention race. But the mask on certain posters is slipping. 

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  5. 2 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

    Not sure why this is a CR topic or even how the thesis is arguable.  Of course there’s shades of grey in how much inequality is preventing true merit from shining through and that’s often where CR creeps in.  But it is undeniable that we live in a society in which the outcomes of people’s lives are almost entirely determined by how wealthy their parents are.

    Or if they stay and raise them. 

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  6. 6 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

    I graduated High School in the early 90s, nawf side holla, and dealt with gang shit my entire life.

    Katrina may not have helped, but it's ridiculous to blame refugees entirely.

    I hope I didn’t give the impression that they accounted for all the crime. May not have helped is an understatement, though. 

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  7. 10 minutes ago, bolverk said:

    Cool. I'm happy to hear you weren't actually involved in any hard-core altercations with those people.

    Personally, I graduated in 1989 and saw Bloods/Crips fights at my small town, West Texas 4A high school (it was on a drug trade route). Hell, I even had a loaded revolver pointed at me late at night, rescuing my coked-up friend, Martha, at some dealer's house in the same town. I've got to say, though, that none of those people were from New Orleans.

    I will say that I got in a fight one time with an Indian doctor's kid in the eighth grade because he talked shit about my mamma. He knew her because she was a middle school math teacher.

    There was also a good friend named Scott (not from New Orleans), who got in a drunk-driving accident after graduation that killed another guy. That messed him up for life. He was found dead several years later on a courthouse square. We think it was a meth overdose.

    And then there was my childhood best friend, Jason (also not from New Orleans), whose family moved away to San Antonio after our sophomore year. He got mixed up in some shit, and I'm pretty sure he OD'd. All his mom told me is that he went to sleep at a house party and never woke up.

    We did, however, have one guy who was from New Orleans who was peripheral to our group of friends. Unfortunately, he lost in a game of Russian roulette shortly after graduating when he went there to visit (RIP Charles, you dumbass).

    All that to say I'm sorry you saw some fights in high school though. I'm not hard, so I understand that must've been traumatizing.

    It was my first encounter with actual gang members and not the “affiliated” kids I knew. It was less traumatic and more chaotic I think. We had designated areas for fighting and that comes with the territory. But this was everyday and involved knives, hence the metal detectors. The graffiti and stealing were on such a large scale that I think most of us were in a sort of culture shock. It was unbelievable.

  8. 8 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

    well then, you're gonna absolutely fucking love School Vouchers.  Wait until the same type of "absorbed students" come en masse, and this time they're bringing cold, hard cash to boot.  

    My kids aren’t in private school. CISD had changed for the better in recent years, though. Still, I won’t send them to Conroe High, that’s child abuse. 

  9. 1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

    So anecdotal evidence, at best. And let me tell you, the "money" in Klein has migrated elsewhere in Houston, or elsewhere in general, in the last 20 years. Conroe is on the up, though, I hear/read. That proximity to the Woodlands, yo. 

    But yeah, anecdotal evidence is all you have, which doesn't match my anecdotal evidence, which also doeasn't match general statistics compiled over the years. So...cool. 

    Lake Conroe has also really changed the landscape, there was a lot more poors back in the day. It’s cool, no worries. I got to learn some neat gang signs, so I have that going for me. 

  10. 5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    Exactly what part of town were in you, and where were you going to HS? Becaues I've lived in Houston every year of my life from 1979 through 2023, save for 4 years at UT Austin between 2022, and part of 2025 when Katrina hit. But I was back in Houston in December of 2025, and haven't left. 

    I've got to say, I remember seeing plenty of signs of displacement, lots of jammed full hotels etc. But I never ran into any gang fights by the Bloods, and I don't remember reading about them in any of the area of where I grew up, in Spring/Klein. At the time I was living Heights Adjacent, which wasn't exactly the nicest place in the world and still very much gentrifying, but there wasn't any rampant crime, different than what we see currently. The biggest wave of crime I can remember in my part of town hit in 2010 and 2011. And as a kid in his 20's, who was going out drinking all the time, hitting Washington bars, living in a gentrifying area, I never ran into any roving gangs, any fights, anything. I do remember lots of people referencing anecdotal crime and blaming Katrina refugees, and I'm sure that happened for awhile. But the fact of the matter is that crime statistics in houston have been falling consistently for years. 

    So, I'm as Houstonian as anyone alive. My experience for living it doesn't seemt to jive with your experience of living it. How do you account for that? Just stubborn insistence?

    Conroe area, less money than Klein to be sure. I can’t remember the exact amount of students we absorbed, but it was, um, enlightening. 

  11. 4 hours ago, bolverk said:

    Everything I've stated is based solely on data with the caveat that I'm not from Houston. Do you question the cited numbers? Do you have another source? I've backed my statements with both data and quoted articles. Who are you to say otherwise? What evidence do you provide?

    Or would you prefer to stick only with stories about metal detectors, which have now been placed in schools all across the country over the last 18 years in direct response to the increased threat of school shootings by troubled teenage souls with access to guns? You do realize that it's not only in Southeast Texas that this has happened, right?

    Seeing that Katrina happened 18 years ago, how would you know what happened in the schools where you live now? This question is particularly pertinent given the age that you've previously stated the approximate age your kids are now. In other words, how would you know?

    What exactly is it that bothers you about people from New Orleans being evacuated to the Houston area? Is there a particular characteristic that makes them stand apart in your community?

    I completely understand that some localized shit happened, which sucks, but we're talking about things from almost two decades ago which have shown no long-term discernible impact on crime rates in Houston (again, based on the data). 

    All of this is to say, "Back your statement up." If you've got something tangible, I'm willing to listen. Otherwise, I'm forced to believe you simply have some sort of prejudice against New Orleanians for some unspecified reason.

    Neat data, but we Houstonians lived it. 
     

    I graduated high school that year and I also had a younger brother that attended. It was really awesome getting to see Blood gang fights in person, you guys missed out. 

  12. 3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

    Everything you said goes against his preconceived notion and will be ignored.  Facts?  GTFO with your facts.  

    Haha, I’ve never lived there but let me tell you what it’s like living there. 

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  13. 7 hours ago, bolverk said:

    Again, I've never lived in Houston (though I was conceived there), so I can't speak to your or others' lived experience. There may well have been some highly localized impact in certain neighborhoods, but the rest of the data (click on those various crime indices in the link provided) show no real discernible impact for the city as a whole other than a short-term blip on murder. That's pretty remarkable, considering they estimated 250,000 initial refugees in Houston, among whom 150,000 became permanent residents. I'm just sensitive to the notion of labeling a whole group of people criminals.

    I also just now looked at the same data for New Orleans, and HOLY SHIT! 😲, it looks like the actual criminals went back home a year or two later. 

    https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/us/la/new-orleans/murder-homicide-rate-statistics

    You might disagree, but I'd venture to guess that long-term the presence of evacuees in Houston didn't have a long-term negative impact on your town. I'd also guess you might've gotten at least a few good restaurants out of it to boot.

    Good fucking lord. 

  14. 14 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

    Fuck that. Is there a place the took in refugees from Katrina that didn’t have increased crime?

    Holy shit. Our school district did the right thing and absorbed quite a few refugees. How were we rewarded? Gang fights and metal detectors became the norm. Cool. 

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