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  1. It is Jimbo we're talking about...he may very well not like the idea of commits taking visits, but how many guys did Candi schtup before he finally pulled the plug on their marriage? He may not like commits visiting other schools, but just like his marriage, what can he really do about it. We'll probably hear that he pulled some kid's offer hours before a flip, but that is no different than Jimbo divorcing Candi after she took the length and breadth of Tallahassee for several years.

  2. Giles is probably no worse than 4 slots down from the list of biggest issues with the coaching. Beck, Mehringer and Warehime are definitely net negatives. They might all be better recruiters but it is unlikely any of them will coach that talent at an acceptable level. At this point, I am not sure if Meekins has earned a spot above Giles on this list. 

    I would think the reason to fire Giles would be if you could hire a guy who can develop and recruit better than him. That said I'll be pissed if he is shown the door before BMW, even if his replacement looks better on paper.

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  3. 1 minute ago, elguapo said:

    It's a fucking beating wading through 3 pages of the same idiots rehashing the same tired arguments.

    But 15 pages of the same rehashed shit about Garrett Wilson isn't? What do you expect? Doesn't Surly have a sign out front with all the rules like Shaggy did?

  4. 10 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

    What if you smoke some marijuana that's laced with PCP?  How many babies you going to put in the oven then?

    It's mostly Maui Waui, man, but it's got some Labrador in it.

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  5. 18 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

    I really felt bad for Kevin when he didn't get to the airport with his family and ended up staying in Chicago by himself for Christmas. That must have been pretty bad for a young boy. But at least he got an Oscar nomination out of it.

    It's crazy to think he didn't learn his lesson, though. 

    'Home Alone' was in reality an LSD trip gone bad. Some Chicago teenager gets paranoid while trippin' alone at Christmas and almost kills two innocent water repair techs who had just stopped to check on the house at the parents' request. The real tragedy is that Joe Pesci didn't get a best supporting actor nom.

  6. 1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

    The same can happen in training camp on a non guaranteed deal. 

    And in that case he would be better off at UT with a possible medical redshirt and an education  

    Even without a guaranteed deal he probably has insurance of some sort that would allow him to finish his education should he get injured. I am not going to argue with anyone in his position thinking the upside of coming back was just too small to justify the risk of coming away with nothing. Jefferson might have been in a position to make like 4 or 5 times the money he is getting now by coming back, balling out, and being a lottery pick. Elliott was probably going to max out at the 3rd round and he probably doesn't even double his money and might not even get a million more per year he is likely getting as a disappointing 6th round pick if he fell to the end of the 3rd round. 

  7. 1 hour ago, Eskimohorn said:

    He chose poorly

    Or he could have already blown out his knee in Spring Practice and already be looking at life of earning peanuts like the rest of us.

  8. 3 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

    I replied two things. 

    Tittes and Beer.

     

    I may be off the survey list next time. 

    Don't use your Shaggy, I mean Surly, voice when out in public or filling in surveys. You might get mistaken for Rusty.

  9. 33 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

    take a look at how bad some of those drafts were, for every lebron theres 6 darius miles korleone youngs and kwame browns

    I honestly couldn't go through any recent drafts and tell you which guys were complete busts, so I'll leave it for people who follow the NBA. Though I did read an article about an Eastern European phenom that is supposed to be a lottery pick this year. The article said that some NBA execs were still talking about not taking EE guys because of Darko Milicic! The article then noted a handful of successful EE guys in the NBA since then. It makes me wonder if the number of busts for any particular group is over inflated and the reality is just that some teams are better at identifying and developing talent. Those that fail are the ones who blame high school busts or Eastern European busts for their own lack of ability.

  10. 9 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

    Like I said, that rule has dramatically reduced draft risks for owners.

    Is there empirical evidence that backs this up? I have to admit I don't follow the NBA much anymore, but it still seems like there are a lot of highly drafted players that are deemed 'busts' every year. 

  11. 53 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

    Ricky, I don't agree with much of what you said, but that's just purely opinion vs opinion, and I don't think either of us has actual facts on our sides relative to what you said.

    I will say that Adam Silver can say what he wants to say, but he works for the owners, and a rule change would be a result of negotiations between the owners and the NBAPA.

    The "one-year" rule was established through collective bargaining between the owners and the PA, and the owners gave up significant concessions to get the NBAPA to agree.  I don't think the owners would drop that rule without a return of at least part of those concessions (just out of principle/stubbornness), and I can't imagine the PA agreeing to that.

    Regardless, the current NBA CBA doesn't expire until 2024, so nothing's going to happen for six years, which makes it even more ridiculous that Condi's report led off with that contingency.

     

     

    No doubt there is some wishful thinking on my part. But I also figure Silver isn't just going to say whatever he pleases, but will say what pleases his masters. Of course talking up revisiting that rule now could be laying the groundwork for it being a bargaining piece against the NBAPA in the future.

  12. 1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

    The NBA loves having a free minor league, which is what the NCAA is.  It lets them more confidently assess who is ready to play NBA ball, which drastically reduces the risk of committing a high draft pick and millions of dollars to a teenager.  

    What's their motivation for "getting on the same page" with the NCAA?

     

    As far as the one-and-done, that overwhelmingly benefits the NCAA blue bloods and the P5 conferences.  If you require freshmen to sit out (which probably would drive the best players to Europe or wherever), that's going to hurt those schools.  And those schools are the ones that call the shots.  So that's not going to happen, either.  

    Silver has talked about making HSers draft eligible a few times in the past couple of years from what I remember, so I get the sense they are at least keeping the idea on the table.

    There are several motivations for the NBA to let HS back into the draft. First, college basketball isn't a great minor league, but then I guess you get what you don't pay for. Most pro-sports people think they are the smartest guy in the room and I am sure they often wish they had gotten a player in their system a year earlier rather than watching a guy waste year with NCAA-limits on practice time and potentially suspect or ill-fit coaching.  Adding HSers would also put more untapped 1st round talent into the pool. I imagine there are people in the better organizations that would love to apply their better scouting skills to get these guys before they show out on the small stage and watch them go to weaker teams who might have missed a player's value coming out of HS. I have no clue if any of these are really compelling, but I could definitely see teams wanting to put their scouts up against the rest of the league's.

    The reason for mentioning the idea of not allowing freshman to play, was to note that the NCAA has little pressure they can bring to bear. Giving lifetime bans to cheating coaches is even less likely to get implemented because they are even more important to a school than a one-and-done. Their biggest threat is probably engaging in more preemptive banning of players accused of being on the take. There are only a few blue bloods and the rest of the P5 could push for more crack downs in hopes of leveling the playing field. That wouldn't require any rule changes either.

  13. 3 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

    There is zero chance of that happening because these freshmen make big money for the NCAA member schools.  Would you be buying tickets to watch Kevin Durant sit on the bench for a year in street clothes?

    The NCAA fucking looooooooooooooooooooves money.  That's the entire root of all of their problems.  

    And I then said that I doubted they would ever do that. I don't think they would in large part because I am not sure it would do much to press the NBA to change their rules, should they prove unwilling. In reality a Kevin Durant wouldn't be in street clothes at Texas, he would be in Europe or Asia earning a paycheck and making sure the NBA could see him play.

    I also doubt the schools would see much difference in money...at least in aggregate. Sure Texas would have lost some fan interest had we not had Durant that one year and that team didn't make a Sweet 16, but I am not sure if other Texas teams might have had better records and tourney runs in many years by having a stable, more experience roster rather than cycling through rent-a-players. The biggest loss for Texas would be not having Durant as a big time booster, but the likelihood of Texas again drawing one of the Top 2 basketball players of any given era is pretty slim. I would be curious to see if more tickets were sold after the one-and-done rule was brought back compared to when the NBA took HSers.

    I ultimately think the NCAA and NBA get on the same page and the NBA opens their draft to high school players again, but I doubt they will agree to rules like in baseball that require a college player to be 3 years removed from HS before being draft eligible again. 

  14. One way I read that the NCAA could try to force the NBA's hand on one-and-dones would be to not allow freshmen to play. Doubt they would go that far and perhaps the NBA would be happy to see their future players get more intensive training overseas than NCAA-mandated time limits on practice for student-athletes. Really wish they could set up what baseball has and let HS players either go pro immediately or have a required 3-year investment in college.

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