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  1. 37 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

    Yep, this is what I was explaining, but this visual represents it perfectly.

    It’s super dumb (and I’m not sure if they changed it) but the way the consensus ratings used to work was they would literally subtract 0.0001 from 1.0000 for how many spots away you were. I.e a consensus #2 player was 0.9997 when there three ratings services. Since then, I think they’ve changed it to weight 247 slightly more and added On3.

  2. 2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    Texas Longhorns commitments and targets in updated On300

    Gerry Hamilton•5 minutes

    Article written by:Gerry Hamilton

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    Sydir Mitchell (Ryan Snyder/BWI)

    The Texas Longhorns 2023 No. 5 ranked recruiting class is well represented in the updated On300 prospect rankings for the class of 2023. The Texas class features eight commitments on the list, headlined bu No. 1 overall Arch Manning.

    Texas also has three more 4-stars just outside the On300.

    The Texas class has the ability to challenge for the No. 1 or No. 2 spot overall with at least 18 targets in the updated On300 still on the board. The Longhorns lead for several of those.

    Texas commitments in the updated On300

    No. 1 Arch Manning, QB, New Orleans (La.) Isidore Newman – On3+ Consensus 5-star

    Previous ranking: No. 1 

    No. 26 Derek Williams, S, New Iberia (La.) Westgate

    Previous ranking: No. 23

    No. 60 Johntay Cook II, WR, DeSoto (Texas) High

    Previous ranking: No. 36

    No. 80 S’Maje Burrell, LB, Fort Worth (Texas) North Crowley

    Previous ranking: No. 70 

    No. 92 Jaydon Chatman, OT, Killeen (Texas) Harker Heights

    Previous ranking: No. 92

    No. 95 Ryan Niblett, WR, Houston (Texas) Eisenhower

    Previous ranking: No. 81

    No. 226 Sydir Mitchell, DL, Ordell (N.J.) Bergen Catholic

    Previous ranking: 3-star

    No. 273 Jonah Wilson, WR, Houston (Texas) Dekaney

    Previous ranking: No. 234 

    On300 4-stars

    Dylan Spencer, DL, Houston (Texas) C.E. King

    Tre Wisner, RB, DeSoto (Texas) High

    Jamel Johnson, S, Arlington (Texas) Seguin

    Texas targets in the On300

    No. 4 Damon Wilson, EDGE, Venice (Fla.) High – New 5-star

    Previous ranking: No. 21

    No. 9 David Hicks, DL, Katy (Texas) Paetow – 5-star

    Previous ranking: No. 10 – 5-star

    No. 12 Caleb Downs, S, Hoschton (Ga.) Mill Creek – 5-star

    Previous ranking: No. 12 – 5-star

    No. 24 Duce Robinson, TE, Phoenix (Az.) Pinnacle

    Previous ranking: No. 18

    No. 27 Jordan Hall, DT, Jacksonville (Fla.) Westside

    Previous ranking: No. 46 

    No. 28 Cedric Baxter Jr., RB, Orlando (Fla.) Edgewater

    Previous ranking: No. 30

    No. 30 Malik Muhammad, CB, Dallas (Texas) South Oak Cliff

    Previous ranking: No. 26

    No. 51 Derion Gullette, EDGE, Marlin (Texas) High

    Previous ranking: No. 54 

    No. 55 Anthony Hill, LB, Denton (Texas) Ryan

    Previous ranking: No. 62

    No. 58 Markis Deal, IOL, Garland (Texas) Naaman Forest

    Previous ranking: No. 28

    No. 64 Javien Toviano, S, Arlington (Texas) Martin

    Previous ranking: No. 44

    No. 101 Braylan Shelby, EDGE, Friendswood (Texas) High

    Previous ranking: No. 254

    No. 102 Jamarious Brown, DL, Moss Point (Miss.) High

    Previous ranking: No. 145

    No. 133 Jalen Hale, WR, Longview (Texas) High

    Previous ranking: No. 138

    No. 141 Mikal Harrison-Pilot, Temple (Texas) high

    Previous ranking: No. 95

    No. 164 Jordan Matthews, CB, Baton Rouge (La.) Woodlawn

    Previous ranking: No. 175

    No. 171 Tausili Akana, EDGE, Kahuku (Hi.) Skyridge High

    Previous ranking: No. 129

    No. 202 Colton Vasek, EDGE, Austin (Texas) Westlake

    Previous ranking: No. 187

    Wow Johntay fell 30 spots? Did he botch his last camp appearance or something?

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  3. 2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    So do we like or hate Pate?

    I like Pate. I think he has reasonable/rational takes which is rare in the passion-fueled world of CFB. I like him even more when he agrees with us.

    Just now, Thiefery said:

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    Arch still #1, comments are still riled up.  Moore ppl are outraged, and look the two QBs who did not attend Elite11 still are #1/#2 

    To be fair, I feel like if you’re Arch there’s no way to win. If you attend an event and have a bad day, you can only go down in rank. If you don’t attend, you get called “afraid of competition.” I think several people have brought up the argument that many teams, evaluators, and analysts keep talking him up/putting him #1. That’s always worth many times more than some random casual from Tennessee screaming about how his tape sucks.

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  4. 19 minutes ago, Sandbagging Steve said:

    This board sounds like the group that told me Peyton Manning was going to be average back in the late '90s.

    I don't believe there's more than one or two college (QB) prospects in history that deserve a 1.000. With that said, Arch is one of the best prospects in the country. Arm strength means very little, as long as you can make all the throws. Don't discount the fact that the Manning's make a concerted effort to throw a catchable ball. It can deceive one's evaluation on arm strength. It's why the uninformed thought Peyton would lose out to Brandon Stewart at Tennessee. It's why these idoit journalists can't evaluate worth a damn.

    Arch does a lot at an elite level for a high school prospect:

    1. He's typically very accurate with the ball while standing in the pocket

    2. He progresses through his reads quickly for his age

    3. He knows his safety valve and has a timely feel for when to take it

    4. He throws receivers open

    5. He already has a ton of experience throwing under pressure. It's probably one of the reasons Archie and family let their kids play on that bad team. There's nothing that will get you prepared for the next level like throwing in tight windows under pressure. Most of these highly rated quarterbacks rarely face these conditions. Arch will have four years of repetition at a young age (the younger you learn, the better).

    6. His name is Manning and, yes, it matters. A really good high school player with the genes raises the chances of success. Now add to it the importance of knowledge at the QB position. He's had way more schooling than any other player in the country. He's been mentored on things that no coach can give him, especially a high school coach. He already prepares in the film room like a pro quarterback. Some of these kids never even figure out how to study film in college. It's a skill.

    7. He scrambles like the Old Man, but his weakness is throwing on the run. He's getting better at it and I expect him to show even more improvement in that category this coming year.

    8. The Manning's aren't concerned with championships and gaudy high school numbers. This time in Arch's life is measured by trying to simulate, and gaining experience, under the same duress of a college and pro quarterback. Train the mind to be prepared for all the variables coming his way in the future. It's the only way to strengthen your weaknesses. No better way to do that than play with a bad offensive line.

    The gaudy numbers will follow when it matters: college and pro. At least that's the plan. 

    Mike Farrell was jizzing in his pants on the thought of Arch Manning reconsidering the Sooners.

    But now he's with the Longhorns...

    The whole world is turning into a bunch satyanash. There are people out there who just can't handle good news.

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    I don’t know that it even needs to be that complicated. All of the recruiting services say that they rank based on the likelihood of a player making it to the NFL. 
     

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/college/notredame/.amp/recruiting/five-star-recruits-and-the-nfl-draft

    Based on several years of classes, the relative hit rate on five stars going in the first round is not that great. If you take that even further to QBs, the hit rate is even lower (low single digit %). I think if you just boil it down to the fact that this is a kid who has amazing genes, Hall of Fame guys who have been developing him since he was a kid, and the Manning family name, I think it’s borderline moronic to ascribe a higher likelihood of draft success to any other prospect (especially a QB).

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