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  1. 58 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

    I don't normally read them, was just surprised by all freaking out and crying. Guess I shouldn't be. 

     

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    51 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

    Sure, from the article you linked: 

    At this point, it’s important to acknowledge strong recruiting does not guarantee on-field results and that other teams have bucked the elite recruiting trend with sustained success.

    Texas, for example, has not finished worse than 17th since 2011 in the 247Sports Composite rankings with four Top 10 classes to its credit. But in that time the Longhorns have compiled a record of 41-35 overall.

    The overall macro data doesn't mean dick for us. We need to build the foundation of the program and get the right kind of players 2 win. 

    UT is literally the exception to the rule. 

     

    Why don’t you go google the term, “necessary but not sufficient?” No one here is saying good recruiting guarantees winning championships, or even the conference, but it is necessarily to win at the highest levels. The data bears that out over and over. Just because your ignorant of that data doesn’t make it any less true. There will always be outliers on both ends. Texas has been a negative outlier because 1) Mack’s last classes were massively overrated and Charlie squeaked into the top 10 twice but then lost a lot of those guys before they hit campus—and then lost another wave in the coaching change— and 2) its had terrible coaching for almost the entire time span you discussed. 

    At some point, Lord willing, Texas will get the coaching part fixed, be it Herman or someone after him. Whenever the coaching gets fixed, those same people who are saying recruiting doesn’t matter and it’s all a crap shoot will absolutely be changing their tune. Recruiting is interesting because it’s the most predictive barometer for measuring the success of your program 3 years down the road. Doesn’t mean it’s always right, but it’s silly and foolish to say it doesn’t matter, especially on a recruiting-specific thread.

  2. 9 hours ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

    Agreed, this thread is full of whining and bitching when none of us have any idea how these HS players will turn out. The NFL is full of busts, and they have 3-4 years of college data + thousands of hours of analysis by professional scouts. 

    Outside of your 5-10 true five stars, this is pretty close to a crap shoot. 

    Some players will want to play for Texas, some won't. Great! 

    This is an unbelievably stupid take. If this Is what you actually think, then you shouldn’t be reading the recruiting threads anyways.

  3. 1 minute ago, UncleBuck said:

    I respect the hell out of David Shaw, and how he's able to prepare these guys for the NFL. But Stanford was 9-5 last year. They lost to San Diego fucking State. I'm not shaking in my boots. Something tells me Big Game Tommy would have the kids ready to give 'em some bidness.

    Something tells me big game Tommy and his band of misfit toys, Beck and Mehrhime, need to worry about the offense scoring more than 10 points in regulation against the likes of USC, Ok. st, and TCU before they worry about giving Stanford the bidness. JFC every time I think about how inept our offense and offensive coaching were last year I get ragey. Time to get this mediation statement out so I can go drink. Have a Good Friday folks.  

  4. 1 hour ago, Machinator said:

    CBs are coming in for Branson Bragg to Stanford now, including Wiltfong. It's done.

     

    57 minutes ago, GotThatFire said:

    I'm disappointed in you, Branson.

     

    57 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

    Death, taxes, and losing Oline to Stanford. 

     

    52 minutes ago, satyanash said:

    Per E.J., Walker Little's family played a big role in selling Bragg on Stanford 😞

     

    41 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

    fify. Obi Eboh is not an O-line recruit.

     

    34 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    Lets not forget top 5 pick Solomon Thomas.

     

    28 minutes ago, Nope said:

    Fuck...sounds like one loss just beat us twice (Walker Little).

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  5. 1 hour ago, Sejjr said:

    So which is it? Is Carter back in the mix or is he not a program fit? Who do I need to send the 9.95 to to get the damn truth? 

    It definitely seems like IT has the old news. Both 247 and TFB had recent quotes saying UT is picking up its recruitment with Carter and vice versa. 

  6. 42 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

    I believe this is called "The Oscarian Maneuver". Just sit on your fucking hands until everyone else fills up and then run a mass email campaign to anyone on the 247 Top 1500 that is uncommitted and listed as a DL. 

    Lulz. The one thing I will say for Giles and the staff is that they seem pretty good with DL evals. I'd prefer they had to do less of them and it's not a solution to the problem, but I guess it's somewhat of a consolation.

  7. 20 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

    Let it go, man. A 4.0 from Devine, TX is like a 1.8 from an accredited high school. They had no choice. I admit, they should have given you more than a 1 day turnaround from your submittal, but that admissions office has a lot of legitimate candidates to rifle through.

    Lulz. This hits close to home. Stanford was probably my #1 law school preference during applications and they mailed me their form rejection letter painfully quick.  I remember opening the letter and immediately thinking, damn, they could've at least waited a couple more weeks before sending this.

    8 minutes ago, Machinator said:

    TFB Open Post: http://texas.thefootballbrainiacs.com/2018/06/open-post-weekend-june-8th-10th/

     

      Reveal hidden contents

     

    – Texas recently offered Mansfield Legacy (TX) DE/DT Taurean Carter. I caught up with Carter recently and he told me that he plans to take a visit to Texas on June 16th for Tom Herman’s big summer recruiting event.

    It will be Carter’s first time on campus, and will give Texas the opportunity to wow him. Carter is taking the process slowly, as bigger offer are just coming in. The biggest recent ones have come from Texas and TCU.

    One other note is that Carter is cousins with Aledo (TX) CB Jeffrey Carter. And the two would love to play together in college. Taurean told me “that’s the plan”. That could be something to keep an eye on down the line. – (Andrew)

    – It was a great week for Herb Hand. Javonne Shepherd looked like he was having fun while he was throwing the football back and forth with Herb Hand at the camp. It seems like Texas did more than throw the ball around with Shepherd to convince him that Austin is the place to be.

    Javonne Shepherd told us that he had a great talk with Tom Herman and that Texas “might be home… It feels like family here. I feel good [hanging around Texas].”

    And with that, Texas has bounced into the #1 spot for the North Forest OT Javonne Shepherd.

    Shepherd says that the two schools that are in contention with Texas are Texas A&M and Georgia. He told us he is no longer visiting A&M this weekend. He’s gonna see some other schools and plans to get to College Station at some point this summer. He will also try to make it to Georgia and Alabama this summer.

    Javonne Shepherd is close friends with D’Shawn Jamison and Al’vonte Woodard, and you better believe they’re in his ear now more than ever. – (Will)

    – Corner Back Jeffery Carter dropped his Top 4 recently, and Texas made the cut.

    For awhile it didn’t seem like Texas was in this one. But I was tipped off that the Longhorns may have a better shot than most thought at this time.

    The other surprise was that Oregon didn’t make the cut. That just shows how many twists and turns this recruitment has had. As many expected Carter to commit to Oregon when he took an official visit a few months ago. Since then, the Ducks have landed two Top ten CB’s, and are no longer in it with Carter.

    Oklahoma has always been in it, and remember that Carter made an early commitment to the Sooners.

    Texas A&M was the school that had the momentum with Carter following his Oklahoma decommitment. And some expected him to flip to the Aggies. One thing that may keep the Aggies out of this one is that they’re likely to land CB’s Marcus Banks, Erick Young, and Bobby Wolfe this summer. Not sure how Carter will feel about joining a what would be a 4-man CB class.

    Then there’s Alabama, who he plans to visit this summer. And if he’s okay with leaving the Texas region, Bama could very well end up being the choice.

    I mentioned recently that Carter’s cousin, Man. Legacy (TX) DL Taurean Carter told me he and Jeffrey would like to play together in college. The one school they have in common that’s left is Texas. So that’s something to watch.

    All I would say is to expect some other twists and turns in this recruitment. But it sounds like Jason Washington and Texas might be in a better spot than some realized with arguably the #1 CB in Texas. – (Andrew)

    – The father of 2019 Oregon CB commit, Marques Caldwell, tells me that they will take an unofficial visit to Texas this upcoming Tuesday.

    Texas offered Caldwell during this last spring evaluation period and are hoping to close out their CB recruiting by bringing Caldwell into the fold.

    Caldwell has an OV set for Oregon later this month. So, while I expect something to happen with Caldwell’s recruitment soon, I don’t expect it to happen before the Oregon OV. – (Super K)

    – I reported that Trinity Christian (TX) Safety, Lewis Cine,will take an official visit to Texas on June 15th. I also reported that he has a Top 3 of Penn State, Texas, and Michigan. After talking to Cine and some other people, I’d say his Top 3 is also in that order.

    Cine is going to have a busy couple of weeks in June. As he’s going to officially visit his three top schools over the month. He will be at Penn State this weekend, Texas on the 15th, then Michigan will be on the 22nd. He said he wants to make a decision before his senior season, and one could come after those three visits.

    Though he has his last two official visits in mind as well. Cine told me Georgia and Florida will get the last two visits, but the dates haven’t been ironed out just yet. – (Andrew)

     

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    "One thing that may keep the Aggies out of this one is that they’re likely to land CB’s Marcus Banks, Erick Young, and Bobby Wolfe this summer. Not sure how Carter will feel about joining a what would be a 4-man CB class."

    Lulz. that would be hilarious. I'll be shocked if more than 1 of those 3 actually stick at corner.  If the UT staff is actually willing to take Carter, he'd easily be my #1 CB in state. I don't even know who would be #2. I like Erick Young a lot but he's very likely to be a S. 

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    One other note is that Carter is cousins with Aledo (TX) CB Jeffrey Carter. And the two would love to play together in college. Taurean told me “that’s the plan”. That could be something to keep an eye on down the line

    Huge, if true.  With Carter (supposedly) clearing stuff up off the field and another top DL target off the board today (Hicks) making Taurean more of a take, this duo looks better and better.  

  8. 2 hours ago, satyanash said:

    Some interesting sentiments from Eric Nahlin. He believes a few of our recent offers were rushed.

     

     

    Since CTJ has retired SLX, I figured I"d do my best SLX impersonation and give y'all a good old fashioned recruiting analysis tl;dr post.  As y'all know, probably much better than you'd like to, I'm not shy in criticizing the staff for perceived mistakes in recruiting strategy, but I'm not really tracking with Nahlin on this one, for CB or WR.

    Someone asked about this a couple days ago, but I forget who it was now, I like Caldwell better than Banks straight up and I'm not really sure why the staff had Banks higher to begin with. I've never been a fan of Banks and I had a conversation with Fud about it roughly a month ago when UT was thought to be the leader. I just don't see it with him. At the time I watched his hudl and Rivals camp footage and he looked small and stiff in his breaks. I noticed he's going to the Opening Finals, so I figured maybe he looked a lot better there. He measured at 5'11, 166 lbs and he doesn't appear to have the frame to put on a ton of weight. He ran a 4.54, which was actually pretty good for that camp as only one guy ran a sub 4.5, however his shuttle time was a horrid 4.46, which matches up with how stiff he looks on film.  I also watched the Houston regional dbs v. wrs (embedded below), I only saw him get two reps (around 8:00 and 8:45) and he didn't do well in either rep. His SPARQ score wasn't great either. I'm not sure how he got invited to the Opening.  Also, as a side note, Bobby Wolfe got 4 reps and got burned every time, just like in the Rivals camp video. I don't get his ranking at all. He's a CB who can't cover. He better hope he can transition to safety, because he certainly aint gonna fix aggy's CB issues.

    Anyways, I like Caldwell. His film reminds me of Davante Davis. He's got a big frame, he's a fluid athlete, and he's really good in run support and with the short wr screen game. He probably won't be a guy you put on an island without any help deep, but he can be a good player.  Similar to Davante, I"m not sure that he wouldn't be better off as a safety.   Also, 247 says he's 6'1, 171 but that was from the 2017 opening regional, so it's safe to say he's likely grown some since then. 

    Regarding WR, I view the Jaylen Ellis as the Garret Wilson replacement. I don't think it's premature to 1) move on from Wilson or 2) offer Ellis. Maybe Wilson has a change of heart late in the cycle, but I doubt it and you'd fit him in the class anyways. Also, Ellis has gotten at on of offers, including tOSU, since we offered him, and I think we offered at the right time before he became another guy who resented his dream school for waiting too long. I view Langston Anderson and Payton Powell as backups to Higgins. I'm not a huge fan of the Powell offer but I also haven't seen a ton of him. I like Langston Anderson a lot. I like Higgins more just because of his size and unique potential. I think there's a chance that Higgins keeps growing while maintaining his mobility and he could end up being used similar to how the Saints used Jimmy Graham.  I'd prefer him over Anderson just because of that hybrid TE possibility. However, if Higgins were to stay at WR (something he's been pretty adamant about), I don't see much of a difference between him and Anderson. 

     

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  9. 9 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

    In all my years of following recruiting, Taylor Hamm remains the only reporter that I have ever seen get openly mocked on social media by the high school kids he is being paid to cover.  

    Somebody voluntarily going into business with that man is incomprehensible to me. 

    Hamm's schtick would only have a chance to work with about five schools' fanbases in the entire country. It's 5x more likely to work with aggy than the amount its likely to work with third-most likely to be successful with school's fanbase (which is an insane amount, btw).  

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  10. 16 minutes ago, Machinator said:

    Damn. There’s a lot of good stuff in there. Michael Knight dropped a legitimate “we’re Texas.” cdt (RIP) defended taking a bunch of commitments at Junior Day because we’d lose them otherwise. 

    Also, I guess this is because I didn’t read recruiting boards until the late days of Mack, but I’ve never seen that much deference to coaches. I mean I get that from some people when I don’t like a particular recruit or criticize the coaching decisions sometimes, but holy shit, that was like 70% of the entire thread.

  11. 1 minute ago, bizzle said:

    rayburn is reporting offers from florida, florida state, bama (i know), auburn, clemson, miami, stanford and tennessee. 

    medley shows offers from clemson, florida st, bama (again, i know), auburn, florida, lsu, miami, ole miss, and tennessee. 

    i realize non-committable offers get thrown around a lot more these days, but if this is the low-hanging fruit we're setting for, i'll take it compared to a roster full of the anderson twins as o line depth.  

    1. You may want to wait until you can actually “settle” for this guys. If the schools you listed are actually pushing for their commitments you won’t be getting them.

    2. The guy who recruited the Anderson twins is still there, so you can expect many more Anderson twin types, like most of your 2020 class and the rest of your 2019 class if you don’t get these Florida kids.

  12. 4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

    I don't know who this Imart character is, but he must be quite the wizard. Also, can you dickheads give me the running list of my socks these days? I'm struggling to keep up. 

    Sydney Carton is your most commonly used sock. He's loyal, devoted, and jumps at the chance to hold your jock strap no that's not right, maybe gargle your , nevermind, we'll go with defend your honor. For reasons unbeknownst to me, you decided to retire SLX, which was the one you used when you felt like even your own wandering musings just weren't quite long-form enough.  Finally, you've got HenryJames who you use to talk about UT baseball, beer, and your pretentious standards on taquerias, tortillas, and which types of peppers are actually good enough for people to be allowed to enjoy.

    I think that covers it but someone can let me know if I missed one.  

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  13. 20 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

    <keanu reeves>Whoa</keanu reeves>

    I just had some major flashbacks regarding that 2008 class. 

    This is going to be a very interesting cycle. It already is. I think Herman's crew has their shit together in their approach, but let's face it, I'm aware of my bias in that thinking. I think the look back on the 2019 signing class for Texas, OU, LSU, ATM, TCU, Bama, FSU, OSU and Stanford will be enlightening. Then again, when was it, 2013? when we saw just an absolutely horrible in-state class overall for Texas? I hope that's not the case this year, but it also gives me some comfort that we're doing work out of state with that concern in mind.

    Yeah. 2013 was the nightmare class for everyone who recruited the state of Texas. Luckily for UT, at least, we only took 15 that cycle. aggy, on the other hand, took 32 in what was supposed to be a foundational class for their program that turned out to have guys like LaQuivontae Gonzalez and the two dudes who pistol whipped that guy they were buying drugs from back in the days when Sumlin was dominating the race for the Fulmer Cup.

    The 2019 class is going to need more time than most classes to declare a winner simply because there will be so many off-field/academic concerns that play out in the first couple years after they sign.  

  14. 5 minutes ago, TBGFL said:

    I did some asking around out here in FL and Rayburn actually does have interest in Aggy but...he and Medley visited FSU today. Supposedly both are blown away by all the positive changes Taggart has made since he started cleaning up Jimbo's mess.

    Medley is more interested in Clemson and FSU than he is Aggy.

    Taggart will be in a uniquely strong position to negative recruit against aggy, if he even needs to.  If FSU actually wants those guys, I'll be $hocked if aggy can beat them out.

  15. 2 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

    I believe he's had health problems, so I'll let him slide, but Howe isn't the same guy he was 5 years ago. There's too much team news on Horns247; Howe, Chip, and Taylor Estes all cover and write the same thing. The site is brutal in the offseason. Chip and Howe have each written at least a dozen redundant articles on Coach Hand. 

    EJ is basically their only recruiting reporter. Roach doesn't do much. 

    Yeah, he had some personal stuff come up. He used to be on the road every week to watch games and visit practices/camps. That was when he was at his best, IMO, but he's said he can't/won't do that anymore.  I still like his football writing a lot, but he clearly has an article quota, which, especially in the offseason, causes him to write some real fluff pieces.  247 is definitely diluting the quality of his work, but they want clicks above all else, mainly because every time you click on a page there it has roughly 15 ads on each page. 

  16. 7 minutes ago, longhrnfan said:

    I'm a big Jeff Howe fan. Is that permitted to be said on Surly? 

    I am too, at least when he writes/talks about football. He's been writing more about recruiting lately, which I'm not a huge fan of simply because he's not that plugged in, so he's mostly relying on questionable intel from EJ. 

    7 minutes ago, Machinator said:

    The thing about Carter is that Bama is probably the best-equipped to take him because they maximize talent and if he flames out, they can easily replace him with someone of equal or better talent the next cycle (the Bobby Brown situation).

    The flip side of that is that Bama, more so than any other team, is most likely to have guys on the board they rate higher than him. They're certainly not going to spend a scholarship on Taurean to get Jeffrey.

    I'm not sure we should jump to the assumption that Taurean and Jeffrey are a package deal. I thought it was interesting Tauren is thought to be waiting to see where Jeffrey goes, but I don't think Jeffrey is requiring a spot for Taurean wherever he commits. 

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  17. 1 minute ago, Hook'Em0608 said:

    In regard to Jones, sure, but they also would play down to competition. That is a focus and mental toughness issue IMO. I put it on the coaches ability to motivate. And for sure the offense is a known issue. Something has to change there. 

    Interesting. I didn't really see that as an issue last year. We seemed to beat the teams we were better than and lose to the teams we were worse than, outside of a loss at OSU, but that will happen once or twice over the course of a season.  We went 0-2 against KU, WVU, and KSU, 2-0 against OU and ISU (again OSU loss was bad), and then had a mixed bag against the middle teams in the conference.  Sure, we had some close games in there but that seems to be more due to having a bad offense and not being able to separate, IMO.  

  18. 17 minutes ago, Lobo said:

    Ah, the old Howling Bush?  My junior prom date had a touch of that herself.  Capacity: 1,100 (theirs, not hers)

    330 to each foul pole, 360 to the alleys, 405 to dead center.  

    Those alleys are a huge difference from the Disch.

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