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  1. OP's dates are wrong.

    There are two lawsuits, for the 2021 and 2021 Holiday Bowls

    2021 - UCLA pulls out at the last second, costing the bowl millions

    2022 - Holiday Bowl goes as planned but they decide not to pay out the Pac-12 to cover most of previous year's cancellation, and calls it a wash despite still losing money.

    Pac-12 is suing for the 2022 payment, so Holiday Bowl is now suing for the 2021 debt.

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  2. 1 minute ago, Hurtlocker said:

    They had UCLA@Michigan for that date at 3:30.   And the week prior its Ohio State@Indiana, after that no B1G 3:30s, guessing they start up on the SEC later.

    That would make sense. They have more slots to fill just this year.

  3. 20 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

    Don't worry the officer who shot your unarmed teenager is being investigated internally and I'm sure eventually it will sort itself out.  We are paying a significant amount of cash to get into this conference, fuck waiting for it to sort itself out, which I don't think it will if it doesn't happen now.

    I think we are better off waiting.

    If we come up with a temporary 8 game schedule, it's because they don't have the vote to go to 9.

    But once UT and OU show up, that's two more 9-game votes.

    The crap would be the 8-gamers gaining enough strength now while UT and OU are not allowed to vote to lock in 1-7 for 4 or 8 seasons.

  4. 8 minutes ago, Magus Ossis said:

    I think this is the real answer. Cows, milk, free. Money ultimately talks, which means 9 games is the likely end game.

    I've also seen it brought up several times this week about teams having to buyout their extra OOC games. Some may be happy to kick it down the road a year or two just so they can clear some inventory without having to spend the money and gives them more time to make other changes.

    Of course this is also something of their own doing. If a schedule had been figured out a year ago, then they would have had a year to work on rearranging the future schedules.

  5. 6 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

    I do see last year they broadcasted Penn State at Auburn in week 3, and going back 5 years I’m only seeing Tenn/WVU at Charlotte as the only other OOC game (which was neutral site outside of their TV deal) so there must be the PGA or something blocking them from week 1/2 games otherwise I would assume Texas at Alabama in week 2 would be on CBS.

    IIRC, there is a preseason draft where CBS only gets a certain number of protected picks, and then there's a back and forth with ESPN. It looks at the entire season.

    Historically, CBS always grabs Florida-Georgia as their first pick. It could just be that ESPN grabbed Texas-Bama before CBS could with their pick.

  6. 1 minute ago, Hurtlocker said:

    I think the only eligibility is they agreed to expand to 15 games, every team gets a game, and CBS picks first.   I also think the SEC started scheduling some conference games in the first three weeks to provide more availability when they increased the amount of games to keep the per team even.

    OK... I think we're on the same page. There is no "non conference home games aren’t eligible" rule for CBS. That's where my confusion was.

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  7. 9 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

    They get to chose the best 13-15 games, with a rule that each team gets at least one game, and rarely pick an OOC game due to that.   Conference games give them credit for two.    They also rarely pick in the first few weeks until the PGA Championship is over.   When expansion to 14 happened and the SEC asked for more games, they doubled up some in October/November instead.

    So it's a preference thing, not a contract eligibility requirement, because they have definitely had SEC OOC games as the SEC Game of the Week multiple times in recent seasons.

  8. 8 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

    Just the first three, CBS wants the SEC conference match ups and I believe only buys 15 games.

    OK... I mean, I know we've had SEC OOC games on CBS before, including the first three weeks, so I'm not clear on the distinction.

  9. 2 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

    Which out of conference game is airing on CBS? The first CBS game of the year is week 3, South Carolina at Georgia. CBS does not broadcast any OOC games week 1 or 2.

    https://fbschedules.com/sec-football-schedule/

    I'm trying to parse this comment

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    SEC is slightly handicapped as non conference home games aren’t eligible for OTA due to their CBS deal.

    Are you saying there's something contractual that prevents OTA non-conference home games? Or are you saying just the first 3 weeks?

  10. 12 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

    I agree, there was absolutely no reason Kentucky should have been ranked as high as 7th in the nation last year after beating (checks notes) Miami of Ohio, Youngstown State, Northern Illinois, and an absurdly overrated Florida team.

    But they were:

    https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll?week=5

    It's a perfect example of why early season polls are flawed, since we just don't have data.

    Kentucky had earned to be up there by what everyone knew at the time and by the logic of early season polls.

    • They were coming off of a 10 win 2021 season including a bowl win over a top 15 B1G school, finishing ranked 18; starting 2022 season at a fair 20th ranking with Levis under center.
    • They made their biggest jump to 9 after defeating Florida @ Florida week 2 which is the wild jump
    • Florida was a big unknown heading into 2022, reasonably starting unranked
    • After week 1, they moved Florida up about 25 spots in the poll to 12 because they just beat what everyone was confidently a legit Utah team.
    • Kentucky comes into Gainesville and beats that same Florida team and that's what gives them the crazy move up 11 spots.
    • The next couple of weeks was just attrition as highly ranked teams lost their first games.

    I hate when later rankings are justified by overreactions in the first few weeks.

  11. 22 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

    I worry about the precedent if we go with 8 from the jump. Good luck clawing back bowl eligibility from South Carolina, Kentucky, piggy, aggy, and MS State. 

    A&M supports the 9 game format. It's the only way they get the annual game back with UTx, and despite the 100 year decision talk, they want that game again. 

    I'm not that worried about UK. From what I've ready, they just want the hard P5 requirement dropped so they can dump Louisville if the SEC goes to 9. I think the SEC drops it or turns it into a suggestion like the B1G has, and they get UTn, UGA, or UF as one of their 3, they'll vote for 9.

    South Carolina will not drop Clemson so they won't be as easy to win over.

    Auburn and Bama both really prefer 9, imo. They both just want more say in who the 3rd program is going to be (after UTn and AU for Bama; and UGA and Bama for AU).

    If I had to guess, I think Tennessee might be on the flip side of the coin. Both Vandy and Kentucky consider them their top in-conference rival. I bet they'd prefer to have both as permanent rivals. For them, 1-7 works if they think they get Bama, if they are told that Auburn gets Bama, they probably vote 9.

     

  12. 37 minutes ago, Saint Austin said:

    Even if a majority bitch out and request eight conference games in ‘24, can we revote when we’re official members and put our weight behind nine games?

    Sankey really wants 9.

    It wouldn't surprise me that if he can't get the vote, he kicks it down the road again until after this season or settles for a 2 year temporary 8-game schedule and tries again after OUT is in the league.

  13. 11 minutes ago, camel at sea said:

    Allegedly BYU was so difficult to work with that the conference changed directions and looked at WVU.  BYU is a lot more "happy to be here" now.  

    I thought the limiting factor was always that BYU refuses to play on Sundays and no one wanted to accommodate that.

    Who gave in here, BYU or the Big12?

  14. 16 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    Does the sec play big boy football or not?  Or, cancel the p5 games. Sec has shown that it has no problem scheduling September conference games to accommodate the November fcs game. 

    I don't think anyone has ever seriously accused Florida of playing a weak schedule.

    During our 3 national title runs, we had the #1 or #2 rated schedule those years.

    Last year sucked for us, but we also faced 3 Top 10 and 4 other top 25 teams.

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  15. It's good to finally see a list on where everyone sits going into next week:

    9 Game Schedule:

    Florida
    Georgia
    LSU
    Missouri
    Texas A&M

    8 Game Schedule:

    Arkansas
    Kentucky
    Mississippi State
    South Carolina

    On The Fence

    Auburn
    Ole Miss
    Tennessee
    Alabama*

    Unknown

    Vanderbilt

    * It really looks like Saban is just posturing.  "If you schedule us with Tennessee, Auburn, and LSU, we'll vote 8. If you get rid of LSU and give us someone like Miss St, we'll vote 9."

    The one angle I hadn't heard before of is the option to do a temp 8 game schedule for 2024/2025. Might be a good way to kick the can down the road a little and also separate out the negotiation with ESPN for adding OUT vs adding the 9th game.

  16. 39 minutes ago, Js1 said:

    And how many of those 38 are November FCS stat padding and rest games? 35?

    Of the 3 seasons that Florida has 4 OOC games, all of them have an FCS game we can cancel.

    Of course doing that would mean we are scheduling 12, 11, and 12 P5 teams those seasons.

    2024
    08/31 - Miami (FL)
    09/07 - Samford
    10/05 - UCF
    11/30 - at Florida State

    2025
    09/06 - USF
    09/20 - at Miami (FL)
    10/11 - Florida A&M
    11/29 - Florida State

    2026
    09/05 - at NC State
    09/12 - Campbell
    09/19 - California
    11/28 - at Florida State

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