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Comparisons to VY need to stop in general, as a true freshman Vince was flashing potential like this vs a team that played for the national title. Arch is nowhere near that level of athlete, and if you took away Vince's running ability he likely wouldn't have even been a D1 QB
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Vince never redshirted chief, G2 in his 3rd year was a W in the shoe en route to the natty. Hell, even G2 his true sophomore year was a comeback win @ Arkansas
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Maybe people are realizing Cook's comments about wasting money weren't in regards Ewers, but rather Arch. Writing was on the wall from practice and he bailed before the WR's/coaches could be the fall guys, best of luck to Wingo's draft stock, feel bad for the guy
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Wrong.
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LOL @ you fucking morons for not listening, told you 2 weeks ago and even laid it out on a platter
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Skeletor wouldn't be calling the defense if he didn't know they'd be elite, he'd have someone else do it to scapegoat. He knows it and wants the credit. Also this offense is going to be a problem because noone in the SEC is schemed to defense Wazzu with what will likely be the heisman winner at qb
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Underwood is what a 5* #1 overall recruit looks like, true freshman vs what will be a top 10 defense this year fyi
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You guys really need to wake up to reality. I broke down every dropback in the first half of that Monroe game, it was a significantly worse performance than Ohio State. The timestamps are below, just jump to them and watch for yourself. Objectively look at the plays he's making or rather not making and ignore the commentators that are literally blowing him for simply being able to tie his shoes First play of the game in GIF form, same side-armed off balance delivery you saw Saturday. Helm runs an out to clear the flat/under for Golden, ball has to be gone ASAP Arch sees Will commit to rush. Golden is open, read and throw are late allowing contact, side armed, off back foot delivery that sails, lucky not to be a pick And there's no rationale behind this decision, most 8th graders know better than to make that throw Everything in the summary is unbiased, if anyone wants to dispute it go ahead. But it might have been the worst game I've ever seen a Texas QB play. He should have had 7 TD's and 6 INT's in the first half, 4 INT's were dropped/misplayed and 5 TD's were missed due to bad throws 00:42 late read, Golden is wide open and waits too late allowing LB to get pressure. Sidearm overthrow that could have been picked 00:58 first read, 5 yard hitch, Moore is wide open 01:10 first read isn't open, bails on progressions, steps up into clean pocket and creates artificial pressure leading to minimal gain 01:40 decent throw, requires diving catch by Bolden 02:00 panics under pressure, throws duck into triple coverage that's picked off 04:55 great ball, legitimate nfl throw assuming he's just not airing it out 07:50 doesn't feel pressure, late throw while hit that's off target. can argue the blocking scheme sucked, but he should know the timing of a blitzing lb getting home on that play from practice 08:10 first read, 5 yard quick slant to helm who is wide open as corner is playing off on 3rd and 12 08:35 first read, simple flat route to blue 10:50 rb screen thrown off back foot, off target. there's slight pressure by design but shouldn't cause the misfire, should have still been caught but the ball location fucks up the play's momentum regardless 11:00 wingo is open, ball underthrown by 10 yards and could have been picked but ultimately draws PI 11:20 good throw, wingo is wide open 11:50 te/wr screen 12:20 busted coverage, wingo is wide open. basic throw any high school qb can make 15:20 bolden is wide open for a long td, ball is overthrown when it could have been lofted for an easy td. result is diving attempt but ultimate drop 16:25 first read, horrible decision and throw. only reason this isn't a pick 6 is because it's off target by 5 yards 16:45 slight underthrow, if he leads golden it's probably a TD 17:10 golden is open on a 5 yard hitch/dig, misses him, panics under pressure and takes a sack 18:10 blue is wide open on a wheel route for a td, overthrown by 2-3 yards 18:53 goal line fade that's off target by 3 yards, should have been picked as he threw it directly inside to the db rather than the outside/wr shoulder 26:25 accurate ball, but it's into triple coverage and should have been picked 26:40 blue is wide open on another wheel route for a long td, overthrows him when noone is within 10 yards of him 27:20 tight throw into coverage to a rb, he does good job going through progressions to get to his 3rd read but should have never made this throw as it's very dangerous and is ultimately picked on the ricochet ULM couldn't stop the run and didn't have the athletes to cover the WR's, they were forced to load the box, and sit in cover 0/1 with a safety 30 yards downfield. It can't possibly get any easier than that as the WR's were literally wide open all game Anyone thinking his release/arm strength is close to NFL level should take a look at 16:25. He got owned by that DB. I just don't understand why Sark gave him the keys to the team/paid him like the best player in CFB as a freshman unless truly elite QB's don't trust him with their careers and Arch was the best he could get. Either that or Kiffin was really the QB guru at USC and Sark just shared the credit/doesn't know how to scout The one thing I will say in Arch's favor is Sark's scheme is dogshit vs Ohio State's Tampa 2/cover 3. Those mesh/rub concepts essentially let Downs take away 4 positions at the same time. He could sit in the hole and and take away both crossers, spy Arch, and help in the run game without taking a step. Georgia's 3-4 is even worse as those dragging WR's get hung out to dry vs LB's in zone 8-10 yards off the LOS. The concept is worthless vs anything but man/cover 1/quarters And fwiw, the team could theoretically still win the title with him as the run game looked formidable and the defense still elite, but it would be one hell of an uphill battle. Many SEC teams will have made adjustments from last year and scheme a better way to attack our defense, and Arch's limitations will limit the offense to ~20-25 ppg in conference play. Finally be prepared for the worst vs OU, it's a guarantee Venables spent the last 9 months tailoring a defense to make Arch look like dogshit and Mateer's style is virtually indefensible, may very well be a repeat of Gabriel running wild in 2023 but this time with no offense to keep up
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Are we going pretend Orgeron and Fisher didn't know exactly what they were doing when they fleeced LSU and Aggie out of millions after signing those deals? You want to talk about the Ohio State tape, look at those timestamps from the Monroe game. It's FAR worse. Arch literally missed wide open 5 TD's due to poor throws and should have had 5-6 picks including a pick 6 in a single half. His first pass of the game is the exact same off balance, side arm heave and should have been picked at it was overthrown by 5 feet and went right in between two DB's that had a chance to make a play on it. That's not Ohio State on the road. That's Louisiana Monroe at home. Having to play a cover 1 with a safety 40 yards downfield because they don't have a prayer at stopping the run or covering any of the WR's. I dare you to defend that tape, because you can't aside from saying well shucks he was just nervous. His shit play accounted for at least -35 points in one fucking half. I hate to tell you, but these analysts aren't taking shots at Arch for clickbait. Jordan Rodgers also said his tape showed absolutely nothing and whether people realize it or not, very few people in the media are willing to take shots at the Manning family due to the respect/power they have in the football world. But per the usual, dumbasses will say who the fuck is Jordan Rodgers. Well he led fucking Vandy to 9-4 in the SEC, I'm having serious doubts Arch can match that with a generational defense behind him
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Honestly he's so fucking bad, there's no way it wasn't known during scouting him. Which brings the question of how he ended up the highest paid player in CFB. And the only answer I can come up with is coaches are intentionally fucking up in order to get fired after signing mega-guaranteed deals. Just saw it with Jimbo and Orgeron. It appears we're about to see it with Belichick. And Sark had his contract full guaranteed with the 1 year extension in January, just in time for Arch. When this thing completely falls apart and Sark gets fired after next season, at some point you can't help but connect the dots
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Going back and watching the ULM film, I'm starting to think no one ever scouted Arch. The same issues are present all throughout that game. Hell, it's an infinitely worse performance than Ohio State, was no one was paying attention? He steps up into pressure/tries to escape pockets that are protected, makes wild off balance sidearms throws, touch is all over the place, footwork is abysmal, throwing motion mediocre(not end of world, e.g. Phillips Rivers, but still leaves. a lot to be desired), limited zip, and is extremely clumsy/unbalanced despite the athleticism... 00:42 late read, Golden is wide open and waits too late allowing LB to get pressure. Sidearm overthrow that could have been picked 00:58 first read, 5 yard hitch, Moore is wide open 01:10 first read isn't open, bails on progressions, steps up into clean pocket and creates artificial pressure leading to minimal gain 01:40 decent throw, requires diving catch by Bolden 02:00 panics under pressure, throws duck into triple coverage that's picked off 04:55 great ball, legitimate nfl throw assuming he's just not airing it out 07:50 doesn't feel pressure, late throw while hit that's off target 08:10 first read, 5 yard quick slant to helm who is wide open as corner is playing off on 3rd and 12 08:35 first read, simple flat route to blue 10:50 rb screen thrown off back foot, off target. there's slight pressure by design but shouldn't cause the misfire, should have still been caught but the ball location fucks up the play's momentum regardless 11:00 wingo is open, ball underthrown by 10 yards and could have been picked but ultimately draws PI 11:20 good throw, wingo is wide open 11:50 te/wr screen 12:20 busted coverage, wingo is wide open. basic throw any high school qb can make 15:20 bolden is wide open for a long td, ball is overthrown when it could have been lofted for an easy td. result is diving attempt but ultimate drop 16:25 first read, horrible decision and throw. only reason this isn't a pick 6 is because it's off target by 5 yards 16:45 slight underthrow, if he leads golden it's probably a TD 17:10 golden is open on a 5 yard hitch, misses him, panics under pressure and takes a sack 18:10 blue is wide open on a wheel route for a td, overthrown by 2-3 yards 18:53 goal line fade that's off target by 3 yards, should have been picked as he threw it directly inside to the db rather than the outside/wr shoulder 26:25 accurate ball, but it's into triple coverage and should have been picked 26:40 blue is wide open on another wheel route for a long td, overthrows him when noone is within 10 yards of him 27:20 tight throw into coverage to a rb, he does good job going through progressions to get to his 3rd read but should have never made this throw as it's very dangerous and is ultimately picked on the ricochet Film isn't all-22 so coverages aren't always apparent, but ULM couldn't stop the run and didn't have the athletes to cover the WR's, so they were forced to play 7-8 in the box, and sit in cover 1 with the safety 30 yards deep out of desperation. It can't possibly get any easier than that as the WR's were open all game and Arch made bad decisions/off target throws throughout The video linked of the breakdown by the guy that was a backup for the packers is spot on. Arch isn't close to an NFL QB, I'm not even sure if he should be a scholarship player after looking at that ULM film. The guy is undoubtedly jealous over attention/NIL arch has been given, but his breakdown checks out and the envy is probably warranted given he's undoubtedly a more skilled qb yet an NFL washout. Given the Ohio State game was a repeat of the ULM game, it's likely just who he is. And if that's the case, his play is probably going to get Sark fired as he'll be blamed for his poor developmental, but the talent just isn't there imo. He looks like a mid level HS QB surrounded by elite talent who's way out of his element. I thought the premise of him being hyped on his name was ludicrous, but I'm now a firm believer after looking back at that ULM game post-Ohio State. I actually think this turns out to be way worse than it did with Simms, Chris had talent but not NFL talent and things went to shit in big games when he went against defenses with legitimate NFL talent. Arch meanwhile misses 5 wide open TD passes in that ULM first half and should have had 6 ints
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